Trying Split tail

[chad556]

Here is how I tie in. I use the anchor hitch for line termination with an XT friction hitch and micropulley for my split tail. I like the anchor hitch because it unties easily and it doesnt force the rope to bend in a very tight radius at all compared to other termination knots. I also like the fact that the tail sticks out sideways instead of straight up. Its personal preference but i feel like it has less of a chance of interfering with my hitch if the tail is shooting out to the side(though in 046's method the tail is whipped and wouldnt get in the way at all anyways). And like any termination knot when tied, dressed and set correctly there is absolutely no way for them to roll out. I usually only have about 2-4" of tail coming out of the anchor hitch BTW forgive the picture it was the best one I had.

As for tying in a system that has only one carabiner on the saddle, I have tried and failed at that many times. One sure option would be to get a hitch climber pulley, never used one but its on my wishlist for the same reasons you mentioned. Maybe if you somehow tethered your two carabiners together you would eliminate the ability of your split tail carabiner to slide around as much, thereby leading to better performance. There are literally thousands of options to tie in the way your thinking so don't be afraid to experiment and have fun. Once you come up with something that works post a picture of it here if your not sure about it and we'll help you out.

 

[Illini_tree]

So since my saddle (weaver cougar with updates) has a rope bridge. I am thinking about ordering a micro pulley with the 3 holes to put on my bridge. Then I can put my climb line biner in one hole and split tail in another. Should hold my split tail biner in place. And still have a 3rd hole for rescue 8 biner for repelling out. What you guys think?

 

[tree md]

I'll tell ya, I never liked climbing with two biners crowding my harness/bridge. And I'm not a big fan of tying/untying termination knots. I went to spliced eyes on my climbing lines and spliced eye to eye prussic cords. I use one biner and when I need to recrotch I just slip the eye of my climbing line off the biner and just throw it around the next crotch/TIP. I did away with the micro pulley and went to a boat swivel snap for slack tending and it works great. Simple, light weight and very functional.

 

[RacerX]

So since my saddle (weaver cougar with updates) has a rope bridge. I am thinking about ordering a micro pulley with the 3 holes to put on my bridge. Then I can put my climb line biner in one hole and split tail in another. Should hold my split tail biner in place. And still have a 3rd hole for rescue 8 biner for repelling out. What you guys think?

IMO if you're going to buy a hitch climber pulley then the best setup is the one recommended by it inventors the TreeMagineers. You can still use the third hole for an additional rope in a two TIP configuration. This also only puts one carabiner on the bridge.

 

[Appalachian]

I'll tell ya, I never liked climbing with two biners crowding my harness/bridge. And I'm not a big fan of tying/untying termination knots. I went to spliced eyes on my climbing lines and spliced eye to eye prussic cords. I use one biner and when I need to recrotch I just slip the eye of my climbing line off the biner and just throw it around the next crotch/TIP. I did away with the micro pulley and went to a boat swivel snap for slack tending and it works great. Simple, light weight and very functional.

Thanks for bringing it back to the topic of -is it cool to attach everything on one biner? Thats what brought me to this thread. I load my biner full FYI. Rope eye, friction hitch spliced eyes and a Micropulley. I just like the simplicity. Is that a sin?

 

[pdqdl]

Here is how I tie in. I use the anchor hitch for line termination ...

I just noticed something about structure of the anchor hitch: it is actually just a double-overhand knot tied down to a snap/carrabiner.

In the case of the scaffold knot, it is the same knot (double overhand knot) tied to itself with the snap/carrabiner nestled in the bight going back to itself.

So...our two favorite termination knots actually have almost identical architecture.

 

[abouttrees]

Here's a variation we've been messing around with for a while. It self tends amazingly well and is very light and easy to use, still needs a little
tweaking here and there but I reckon it could be a winner it grabs reliably and gives only a few cm sit back when you load it. (ignore the dodgy climbing line, it's an of-cut)View attachment 189095

 

[abouttrees]

Sorry I'm having trouble attaching photos to my posts, it's there just click on the link

 

[RacerX]

That rope looks pretty beat up.

 

[chad556]

Here's a variation we've been messing around with for a while. It self tends amazingly well and is very light and easy to use, still needs a little
tweaking here and there but I reckon it could be a winner it grabs reliably and gives only a few cm sit back when you load it. (ignore the dodgy climbing line, it's an of-cut)View attachment 189095

Looks like a VT with a ring instead of a second braid? Interesting.

 

[tree md]

Yep, looks pretty slick. A little similar to the boat swivel snap that I use to tend slack.

 

[abouttrees]

Looks like a VT with a ring instead of a second braid? Interesting.

Basically that's what it is, and please don't worry, like I said it's a crappy bit off off cut rope, tried climbing using it on Yale Magma rope and it
works a dream. Try it out!!