Some folks forget to specify if said machines ARE in fact air cooled or liquid cooled....
Two-Stroke Oils: All the Same?
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Mine is beer cooled.
I like it already!
I use this at ratios from 24:1 to 50:1 the cost is 9.99 per qt.
Blended for maximum engine protection with fuel stabilizer 2 cycle synthetic blend.
Blended for maximum engine protection with fuel stabilizer 2 cycle synthetic blend.
- Special low ash additives reduce wear
- Blended with fuel stabilizer and high quality base stocks
- Ace 2 cycle low ash engine oil meets or exceeds all requirements for 2 cycle air cooled engines
My "I'll bite" post was an attempt of humor for the "Any objections" question. Let's be real, someone would ask it sooner or later. Do I really care??? NO. Use what works for you, It's your equipment.
Let's take it down about 15% bud...
Let's take it down about 15% bud...
I'll use any oil but i won't use stihl ultra
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How will my 4 mix pole saw engine react to using Red Armor instead using Stihl Ultra or Motomix? I still have some Motomix on hand wondering if I should continue to use it in the tank, or use it for cleaning the workbench? My other Stihls seem to enjoy the Red Armor 50:1 mix. I am not a commercial user.
I'm curious too. I went to Saber acouple years ago in mine and haven't had any issues YET.
All I'm saying is that the argument "you can't use snowmobile or motorcycle 2-cycle oil in a chainsaw unless it's specified for air-cooled engines" is baseless because they have to be formulated to accommodate air-cooled snowmobiles and dirtbikes. I used Pennzoil snowmobile oil in MANY air-cooled saws, trimmers, ATVs, snowmobiles....
I've never seen a "liquid cooled engines only" dirtbike or snowmobile oil, not saying it doesn't exist.
I've never seen a "liquid cooled engines only" dirtbike or snowmobile oil, not saying it doesn't exist.
No argument here... to an extent. Any oil is better than straight gas no? Heck, I would think even 10w-30 or the like would be better than nothing.... in an extreme pinch.
Point is the rated oils perform "better" at certain engine temps. Keeping the engine/muffler cleaner of carbon deposits and the like.
I don't know it all either... just a keyboard warrior like the rest of us with some past life experiences. And with that....
Point is the rated oils perform "better" at certain engine temps. Keeping the engine/muffler cleaner of carbon deposits and the like.
I don't know it all either... just a keyboard warrior like the rest of us with some past life experiences. And with that....
Snowmobile or motorcycle oils are typically water cooled, but they spec jaso Fc/Fd low ash or "aircooled" type oils. Outboards, lanwboy mowers spec marine type ashless oils.
You need to think of it in terms of low ash vs ashless.
I'm late to the party here....but.....we raise hogs....what do y'all think of using lard for 2-cycle lube? gotta a bunch of extra lard.....
Might make great assembly lube???I'm late to the party here....but.....we raise hogs....what do y'all think of using lard for 2-cycle lube? gotta a bunch of extra lard.....
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That sounds good to me. It might smell like frying sausage while you're cutting wood. That would really beef up your appetite when you are done cutting. Add a little country ham fat and you really hit pay dirt.I'm late to the party here....but.....we raise hogs....what do y'all think of using lard for 2-cycle lube? gotta a bunch of extra lard.....
Okay, I'm in....That sounds good to me. It might smell like frying sausage while you're cutting wood. That would really beef up your appetite when you are done cutting. Add a little country ham fat and you really hit pay dirt.
What ratio? 50:1 or do you think I outta mix it a little thicker, say 32:1......we don't want too much carbon build up....lol.
We had some animal based grease from Lubriplate where I work. Company had to get rid of it for some reason, so I was given 3 pints to take home free. Dull white in color and smelled a bit funny compared to other greases.
Ha yeah I was not specifically trying to pick a fight with ya or anything, and this topic is sooooo beaten to death, there's no valid argument against using whatever oil is formulated specifically for whatever you're using.
In fact, many newer snowmobile oils have some additives removed to avoid gumming up variable exhaust valves, so a true air-cooled chainsaw oil is going to have additional additives anyway, that's why I use Echo oil these days.
No worries Mac. 
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