Two-Stroke Oils: All the Same?

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as a hardcore 2 stroke dirt bike guy I can say that Motul 800 is good stuff. another great oil is Champion WP. my riding bud put 255 hours on his KTM 300XC with it and when I did a top end for him everything was perfect. not a mark. he's been using it for 25 years. I use this and have had fantastic results.
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I'm sure jealous of that collection. I burnt my last bit of MX2T/2R a long time ago.
It was a remarkable oil that only cost $3.50 a pint!
 
I'm sure jealous of that collection. I burnt my last bit of MX2T/2R a long time ago.
It was a remarkable oil that only cost $3.50 a pint!
when Mobil discontinued this product in the early 2000's I bought every bottle and case I could find at about 6 auto parts stores. they were clearing it out for $1.00 a pint. the quarts were 2 bucks ea. I had twice as much as in this photo, but I ride dirt bikes and have used up a lot of it since then.
 
I wonder how Belray is in saws? I have a bunch of it laying around MC1 and H1R ?
I’ve personally seen the internals of clapped out tree service saws that were run on H1R at 40:1 since new. They’re all perfect inside. He also says he has 3 550’s that he guesses have over 1000 hours each and still running the original bearings
 
Belray or Spectrol work great in motorcycles..........I worked on bikes for years and they are both good.

HM
Back in the day , unfortunately have not seen any in decades locally . I ran Belray H1R in my Kawasaki 500 & 750 Triples in the 70 's a premium grade oil back then !
 
I’ve personally seen the internals of clapped out tree service saws that were run on H1R at 40:1 since new. They’re all perfect inside. He also says he has 3 550’s that he guesses have over 1000 hours each and still running the original bearings
Thanks good to know
 
You know, with all the criticism I'm hearing about stihl 2 stroke oil, I'm surprised some stihl dealer or engineer hasn't come to its defense.

I wonder if anyone has done a good analysis of stihl oil to determine if it is a good oil or not.
 
You know, with all the criticism I'm hearing about stihl 2 stroke oil, I'm surprised some stihl dealer or engineer hasn't come to its defense.

I wonder if anyone has done a good analysis of stihl oil to determine if it is a good oil or not.
Suckers keep buying. Why would they care?
 
H1R didn't come out until the 90's.
Well Bell Ray XXX injector oil equivalent then , was a good oil , I got a free case (12 qt) with the H1 500 , put over 20,000 miles & reduced smoke in comparison to Yamalube . Eventually went to Castrol T Injector oil later with the H2 750 they really were oil thirsty lol. However , I would not recommend any of those oils today .
 
You know, with all the criticism I'm hearing about stihl 2 stroke oil, I'm surprised some stihl dealer or engineer hasn't come to its defense.

I wonder if anyone has done a good analysis of stihl oil to determine if it is a good oil or not.
From what I understand it was designed for the 4mix engine, not necessarily any of the 2 stroke engines. But it's in a fancy silver bottle and costs a lot....
 
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