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LOL. I haven't had a stalker in quite a while. Guys lonely, I guess.
You started off good with your conscience telling you what you were doing was wrong, but then you justified your actions by telling yourself if you didn’t take it, someone else would.

How long would brother mudstopper’s logs have to sit there for you to save them from rot? They were there for a year. Would you have done what the other guys did?
 
A troll. I took his bait, now he is on ignore.
Now that’s some funny **** right there. Running around calling people cowards and then when faced with what the majority believes you did is wrong, you hide from it behind the trusty ol “troll” mantra.

Yes, if you look at the first call out that what you did was wrong, 18 people “liked” the post vs 4 that condoned your lack of morals.

Face it, you would have stole mudstopper’s wood too if you seen those logs sitting there not touched for a year, my guess it would of happened a lot quicker than that, you know, before someone else got to them and you lost your window of opportunity. Hell, you were even brought up in the beginning of his thread as a suspect.

You know, justifying your entitlement to them by saving them from rotting.

https://www.arboristsite.com/commun...finally-hit-my-wood-pile.346552/#post-7399325
 
While he walked in to look the 25 foot trees over that someone else had cut but left unguarded someone else walked up to the unguarded truck he had left behind.The person saw no one in site. the person thought to himself,, another abandoned truck left in our woods to rot With a warm feeling in his heart feeling he was helping to save the planet he drove the truck to the scrap yard in the hopes it would be recycled.


How many Times a DAY, does someone remind you to BREATHE????

Outside of the now extinct Pol/Rel, I had a pretty high opinion of most AS Members, that is declining. I have often disagreed with MT Res, but I totally Agree with him in this case. I don't know what world some of you live in, but even the Forest Circus agrees, if it is left in the Forest, it DOESN'T BELONG TO ANYONE, just the WOOD, NOT Personal Property for those with a sub 64 IQ, and need THAT Explained to them :rolleyes:

IF they had left a note stuck with a screwdriver or scrench, saying that they would be back shortly for the rest, which it doesn't appear that they did, then it would be different, THEN taking the wood and the scrench would be a Schitty thing to do, but that ain't what happened here

I have both taken, and left behind cut wood, there are reasons beyond "I am coming back" for leaving wood behind, not paying enough attention to how full the trailer is, simply ENJOYING running the saws and over cutting, or the main reason that I would be leaving wood behind, is that we are required to do a One Hour "Fire Watch" after the last saw is shut down, so I will buck a lot of rounds all at once, so my hour long Fire watch is mostly covered while loading wood and gear, if I cut more than I can haul............ well it gets left behind, some would fire up a saw to fill out the load, and "Forget" that their fire watch hour starts over after the saw is shut down again

In the Western woods, cutting it only makes it "Yours" until you leave it behind, most out here understand that.

I have left cut wood behind, only RARELY did I ever expect to go back and get the rest, and if I did and it was gone, it was an "Oh Well" moment, and not worthy of raising the Blood Pressure, never mind getting as upset as some members here suggest. It maybe in large part because, here out West ,the National Forests are HUUUUUGE, the cutting permitted areas may be well into the Forests, and in addition to the travel from home to the NF, we are traveling further than I have seen many here post that they would travel for firewood, so returning to a cache of cut wood, just isn't that common here.

I Stihl can't believe how many are so Butthurt, over what we considered normal here, my Gawd, without calculating the cubic footage, of his score that MIGHT $250 worth of wood, IF it was Cut, Split, Seasoned, Delivered and Stacked, which is where the real value in Firewood is, the MAKING it into FIREWOOD, not the wood itself, Laying in the forest, not even fully cut into rounds, there was MAYBE $50 worth of wood that someone only had a small amount of time "Invested" in, Jumpinjawhousifats, some of you must not have many REAL PROBLEMS in your Lives to worry about, which Might be Nice, but I can't imagine a life that trouble free, being a very INTERESTING Life to Live, the more interesting a Life, the more Challenges that seem to accompany it.

It is Amazing that so many are so worked up over a LITTLE bit of wood, in a NATIONAL FOREST, Dayum some really need to Grow Up.

MT Res, we have disagreed on many issues in the past, but IMO. you did NOTHING WRONG, or have any need to apologize for anything.


Doug :cheers:
 
Hey Shorty, I think that You are Misunderstanding the "Like we were Robbing a Bank" comment, much the same way that others have misunderstood your "Taken out behind the woodshed, and Bloodied" statement

Just sayin,.............. somethin to think about ;)

We agree on a lot, but not this time



Doug :cheers:
 
Hey Shorty, I think that You are Misunderstanding the "Like we were Robbing a Bank" comment, much the same way that others have misunderstood your "Taken out behind the woodshed, and Bloodied" statement

Just sayin,.............. somethin to think about ;)

We agree on a lot, but not this time



Doug :cheers:
What about an animal that someone shot and didn’t recover yet? Same thing as found rounds?
 
What about an animal that someone shot and didn’t recover yet? Same thing as found rounds?

I'm not a Hunter, I don't have any issues with hunting, just have never had anyone to teach me how to dress out an animal, kinda pointless to shoot an animal, that I don't know how to properly process.

I don't know how much time a hunter has to dress out an animal, before it goes bad, but I rather suspect, that unless you actually WATCH, the animal drop and breathe it's last breath, and start dressing it out then, by the time you find a field dress the animal, if the hunter that shot it, hasn't shown up and claimed the animal, there is a Good chance that IF they find the animal, there is a good chance it will be Bad by the time they Do/IF find it.

If the shooting hunter finds the animal while I was (Hypothetically) dressing the animal, and claimed it as theirs's, I would Graciously relinquish the animal, and Hope that my field dressing skills met with the proper hunters standards. I agree that to leave an animal to waste in the forest is wrong

As I stated, I am not a Hunter, so maybe my estimate of the time available to dress out an animal, may be less than accurate, but I would try to do the "Right Thing".

That said, Big Game, and Firewood are totally different things, firewood is MUCH easier to find, and replace than an animal,

I Live near a NF, and most of my firewood comes from the NF, and what MT Res did, is an acceptable practice here, you and I simply Disagree in this case, but I have been cutting in the Western NF's for years, and that is how it is HERE.

Maybe you should be taken out behind the woodshed and Bloodied???? ;)



Doug :cheers:
 
I'm not a Hunter, I don't have any issues with hunting, just have never had anyone to teach me how to dress out an animal, kinda pointless to shoot an animal, that I don't know how to properly process.

I don't know how much time a hunter has to dress out an animal, before it goes bad, but I rather suspect, that unless you actually WATCH, the animal drop and breathe it's last breath, and start dressing it out then, by the time you find a field dress the animal, if the hunter that shot it, hasn't shown up and claimed the animal, there is a Good chance that IF they find the animal, there is a good chance it will be Bad by the time they Do/IF find it.

If the shooting hunter finds the animal while I was (Hypothetically) dressing the animal, and claimed it as theirs's, I would Graciously relinquish the animal, and Hope that my field dressing skills met with the proper hunters standards. I agree that to leave an animal to waste in the forest is wrong

As I stated, I am not a Hunter, so maybe my estimate of the time available to dress out an animal, may be less than accurate, but I would try to do the "Right Thing".

That said, Big Game, and Firewood are totally different things, firewood is MUCH easier to find, and replace than an animal,

I Live near a NF, and most of my firewood comes from the NF, and what MT Res did, is an acceptable practice here, you and I simply Disagree in this case, but I have been cutting in the Western NF's for years, and that is how it is HERE.

Maybe you should be taken out behind the woodshed and Bloodied???? ;)



Doug :cheers:
Your estimate is way way off. I’ve let deer sit overnight when unsure of the shot, worse thing to do is push them after a marginal shot, the chance of recovery drops dramaticaly. Just to clarify, you’re condoning taking someone else’s animal that they shot and dint recover yet? Here is another one.

https://www.newjerseyhunter.com/threads/someone-stole-my-deer.46156/
 
Your estimate is way way off. I’ve let deer sit overnight when unsure of the shot, worse thing to do is push them after a marginal shot, the chance of recovery drops dramaticaly. Just to clarify, you’re condoning taking someone else’s animal that they shot and dint recover yet? Here is another one.

https://www.newjerseyhunter.com/threads/someone-stole-my-deer.46156/


Shorty, I already stated, that I am NOT a Hunter, and am unfamiliar with the time frame in which an animal needs to be dressed out, so I was basing that on someone else's statement about an animal spoiling. If someone HAD taught me about dressing an animal, I would have known the time allowable, and Hopefully would have been taught the etiquette in that situation, you were asking me about a situation that I am admittedly not familiar with, and clarified that I would try to do the "Right Thing"

There is a Big difference between Game and Firewood, and at least in the Western NF's MT Res followed local Etiquette standards and did NOTHING WRONG

Shorty, I'm starting to think that you really need a trip out behind the woodshed ;)


Doug :cheers:
 
Shorty, I already stated, that I am NOT a Hunter, and am unfamiliar with the time frame in which an animal needs to be dressed out, so I was basing that on someone else's statement about an animal spoiling. If someone HAD taught me about dressing an animal, I would have known the time allowable, and Hopefully would have been taught the etiquette in that situation, you were asking me about a situation that I am admittedly not familiar with, and clarified that I would try to do the "Right Thing"

There is a Big difference between Game and Firewood, and at least in the Western NF's MT Res followed local Etiquette standards and did NOTHING WRONG

Shorty, I'm starting to think that you really need a trip out behind the woodshed ;)


Doug :cheers:
How about montanaresident. He’s a hunter, he knows, he said he would take someone else’s animal.

What I want to know is where is the entitlement line drawn for public land? Is everything finders keepers? Anything you want to take?
 
I have left cut wood behind, only RARELY did I ever expect to go back and get the rest, and if I did and it was gone, it was an "Oh Well" moment, and not worthy of raising the Blood Pressure, never mind getting as upset as some members here suggest. It maybe in large part because, here out West ,the National Forests are HUUUUUGE, the cutting permitted areas may be well into the Forests, and in addition to the travel from home to the NF, we are traveling further than I have seen many here post that they would travel for firewood, so returning to a cache of cut wood, just isn't that common here.
I wonder how many people overload their trucks and trailers because in the back of their mind they know there's a good chance when they come back for the rest of the wood they worked for, it will be gone since it sounds like it's acceptable behavior for someone else to take it, a common occurrence in your experience. Two wrongs don't make a right but apparently a thousand wrongs makes it acceptable. Or the hunter pushing the deer when he should have waited, causing the animal to be lost, all because of the common occurrence of "the entitled" taking what isn't morally theirs.

As you stated, I wouldn't get mad either if it happened to me, but it would make me shake my head and wonder how people justify their actions, just like I'm doing now. I firmly believe this behavior all leads back to how one is raised.

Perhaps they were coming back..apparently anything left not tied down in your neck of the woods is fair game.
Not a neighborhood. It is called the Bitteroots National Forest. And yes sheit left or abandoned is just that.
 
Another free firewood score. Nearby campground was heavily cut. Forest Service people told me the grounds were full of root rot, and it had to be thinned. Notice was in the local paper, that I don't subscribe to, but I saw scores of trucks full of firewood leaving my area. I got in to the campground the 2nd day and got 1/2 a cord. 2 weeks later I loaded big trailers full of red and douglas fir. Trees were dropped, bucked and cut to 16" lengths. Even had one of the forest service folks help me load up my trailer. I'm close to having my wood needs for the year finished. :yes:

Got expensive saws I don't get to use much anymore. :surprised3:
 

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