Using a high lift jack for jacking over trees

[mattfr12]

How do you like the jack? Would you buy it again?

Yes it's very efficient for pushing over trunks after working the top out. It will crank over a pretty big tree with some back lean. Watch their YouTube video. Way faster and you also don't have to wind it up at the end , just carry it to the next tree.

 

[Nailsbeats]

A pike pole maybe? Depends on what you can push, you'll have to make that call.

 

[hunthawkdog]

caution

weve tried the jacks and usually it was pretty slick then one time as the tree fell it had hold of the jack and when it hit the ground it flung that jack and I ahvent used it since the one that flung it was an easy one and turned bad if it would and almost did hit someone it would have been terrible . I like to pull thos little trees with 4 wheeler you get lots of torque . If we raced and I threw the rope and pulled with the 4 wheeler and you used a jack Id bet dollars to dimes Id win . Be carful man those dang jacks are accidents waiting to happen.

 

[pdqdl]

We use the Stalpen tree jack a lot which works close to the same way other than it leaning on angle and digging in to the bark. And it works very very well. It will push over a pretty big tree with some back lean. I made a video of it just gotta get around to editing it. It beats throwing a rope up in it ten times over. Way way faster.

I have never seen those before. I like the idea, but kicking out at the bottom would be a concern. Keep in mind guys, those ropes have to be extracted from the tree once you cut it down. That Stalpen jack would just pick up and move to the next tree.

Kicking out at the base would easily be overcome with a chain around the stump, anchoring the base of the jack. It does sound faster than setting ropes, although not as secure.

 

[2treeornot2tree]

Two of us dropped about 200 trees yesturday. Didn't take the jack outta the truck. Think I am just gonna put these trees over with a rope. The bank that these trees are on is very soft.

 

[flushcut]

Rope'em that is my .02. I have used a bottle jack a few times and it worked well aside from one tree that broke its hinge and went 90* the wrong way.

 

[pdqdl]

I would have no problem putting a jack on those. I doubt, however, that I would use a "farm jack". the Stalpen tree jack (or a similar device) would push at a very nice angle from the high bank, and those wires look like a pain to work around.

Ropes getting all tangled up in the woods behind is a pain too; I would look for quick and easy on that project.

 

[timberjak]

I used a high lift for this before. the ground is frozen here not sure if yours is. I took the base off and made two tanto blade style metal teeth that dug into root ball or frozen gound. I also put the angled notch for jack to dig into up high. seemed to have more leverage.
This was a fast method for tipping trees.
I suppose in softer ground you could use some good bolts through the base holes. they would be like teeth out the bottom. could even sharpen them.

 

[2treeornot2tree]

I wish I knew someone with one of those jacks so I could try it out. Luckly the wires are just telephone wires, but are gonna make it a pain to get the rope in the trees

 

[mattfr12]

I have never seen those before. I like the idea, but kicking out at the bottom would be a concern. Keep in mind guys, those ropes have to be extracted from the tree once you cut it down. That Stalpen jack would just pick up and move to the next tree.

Kicking out at the base would easily be overcome with a chain around the stump, anchoring the base of the jack. It does sound faster than setting ropes, although not as secure.

Your gotta see it in person. You'll become a believer. It was designed or modified for dropping trees. It has a u shaped bottom so it will grab on to like a one inch piece of rebar. I have a pry bar that sits in their perfectly that is close to five foot long. The bar on the bottom goes horizontal and digs into the ground as soon as your start to tighten up the system. Once it's an inch or two down its pretty solid.

You also gotta use common sense and chase the back cut with wedges which is super easy to do since the jack doesn't take up any room in the back cut.

I haven't had to set To many ropes since I bought it. And the ones I did for precautionary measures thee jack handled fine anyways.

Next time we use it I'll shoot a helmet cam video of how I set it up and use it.

 

[mattfr12]

It is not a necessary tool a rope is always pretty safe. With that in mind it is pretty freakin awesome when your dropping trees. It also will impress you to how much power it actually has. Mine has handled plenty of trees over 60 DBH. But normally i work the tops out to make it fit in the allotted space, then use the jack to push it over.

In the job I'm on now it has been the cats pajamas we took down close to 200 dead or diseased trees and it's on 10 acres, trees don't hold a super high risk of damaging property. I just gotta make sure I don't smash up other trees. So that's why I take the tops out.

Take a ride down and try it tree just give me a call before you do we usually work everyday and my days off consist of supervising the other crew.

I'm typing this from the cab of my log tuck while some pines are coming down. I love my iPad. It's raining pretty good guys still wanted to work so. My day off is today lol.

 

[tree MDS]

Wow, that month sure flew by! lol.

 

[mattfr12]

Wow, that month sure flew by! lol.

If your refereeing to me I've pretty much decided to quite posting stuff endless someone asks. Seeing how I'm the only tree company in the US that uses a Copma knuckle boom. And people like Holden seem to know more about it than me even though it's not possible he's ever been in driving distance of one. I kinda feel like I'm not gonna get anywhere trying to post stuff someone else might be able to use down the road for Information, so I give up. It's like me telling an astronaught what a space shuttle can and can't do. He commented on reach you could extend it out to 150 foot if you only wanted to lift a pack of hotdogs.

About us having the only two in the US feel free to look it up. Only two used in tree care.

To many know it all"s for me to continue.

 

[2treeornot2tree]

I hope you continue to post. You have alot of good input to add, and that makes this forum all the much better.

 

[flushcut]

If your refereeing to me I've pretty much decided to quite posting stuff endless someone asks. Seeing how I'm the only tree company in the US that uses a Copma knuckle boom. And people like Holden seem to know more about it than me even though it's not possible he's ever been in driving distance of one. I kinda feel like I'm not gonna get anywhere trying to post stuff someone else might be able to use down the road for Information, so I give up. It's like me telling an astronaught what a space shuttle can and can't do. He commented on reach you could extend it out to 150 foot if you only wanted to lift a pack of hotdogs.

About us having the only two in the US feel free to look it up. Only two used in tree care.

To many know it all"s for me to continue.

Ok now you have me interested in this Copma kboom thing. Do you have a thread talking about it or some other links that you would care to share or a website. Thanks

 

[mattfr12]

Ya I'm at work at the moment but I made a thread a while back that has picture from the time I ordered it until now.

 

[superjunior]

Ya I'm at work at the moment but I made a thread a while back that has picture from the time I ordered it until now.

you still referring to the first one, ya get the big boy yet?

 

[mattfr12]

you still referring to the first one, ya get the big boy yet?

no it takes almost a year from start to finish locate a truck. got the truck gonna go on a mack granite. then the boom takes about 3-5 months to get built and come across the pond. then they mount it and test it. its a slow process.

 

[Kottonwood]

I didn't read this whole thread so forgive me if this has been answered.

Why are you bothering to mess around with throw balls on those things? Why don't you just grab every rope you got worthy of pulling on, fly up there in your bucket and set em all..... 25 minutes max and you have an easy safe way of yanking those things over..... you'd spend more time than that screwing around cutting notches to fit your jack in.

 

[Kottonwood]

oh yeah.... if you don't have enough ropes tie your long ones twice, then attach your fiddle block on the ground.... voila