vt and a hitch climber

[Adkpk]

I can't find the the page I saw it on. They use a biner with a little pulley thing on it to do what I was doing. Which is to give some rope without the setup in your face to grab and pull up on. If you hitch climber's aren't sending the hitch climber mass of metal up the rope so it's not right in front of you then please try that biner with the pulley and a prusik and get a life. :greenchainsaw: Or do what I did. What Bermie described, grabing the rope over the setup sounds like torture to me.

They sell those biners at the local rock climbing store and I will try to get one tomorrow. With that thing all you need to do is unclip the biner and put your prusik away and your ready to limb walk.

 

[oldirty]

i dont know man. i limb walk with it and ascend with it the same way. ( unless i add that sling and biner, which is seldom)

 

[Adkpk]

When I first set that thing up like you originally posted I was cursing you out. :biggrinbounce2: I couldn't figure out how to pull up on the rope so I sent it back. Then like I said, I saw how to move it up the rope with the prusik. Now I'm back to sweet talking you so don't worry. :greenchainsaw:

I would really like to see someone do what you all claim you do with that setup. Bermie?

 

[oldirty]

When I first set that thing up like you originally posted I was cursing you out. :

i think that pic you are talking about i had the prussic on the top biner as well as deadending to top biner. i have since moved the prussic to the bottom biner.


when the next rec climb?

 

[Adkpk]

i think that pic you are talking about i had the prussic on the top biner as well as deadending to top biner. i have since moved the prussic to the bottom biner.


when the next rec climb?

I am open for the rest of the summer. Get a crew together and come spend the weekend. I got trees and camping area's and a bathroom to boot.

 

[masiman]

I can't find the the page I saw it on. They use a biner with a little pulley thing on it to do what I was doing. Which is to give some rope without the setup in your face to grab and pull up on. If you hitch climber's aren't sending the hitch climber mass of metal up the rope so it's not right in front of you then please try that biner with the pulley and a prusik and get a life. :greenchainsaw: Or do what I did. What Bermie described, grabing the rope over the setup sounds like torture to me.

I think it is on page 19 of their Hitchclimbers guide, Managing Slack: Floating Prussic.

 

[Adkpk]

I limb walked today and found it was like taking the elevator instead of the stairs. Man that vt is a great hitch.

 

[Tree Pig]

I havent had any luck with the VT still, I can get it to work but just cant get the trust level up on it. The distel on the other hand I am falling in love with. I almost hated to untie today the thing was running so well (maybe need to start leaving it on the line). Anyone truly used both and can give an honest comparison on the two?

 

[Adkpk]

I havent had any luck with the VT still, I can get it to work but just cant get the trust level up on it. The distel on the other hand I am falling in love with. I almost hated to untie today the thing was running so well (maybe need to start leaving it on the line). Anyone truly compared the two and can give an honest comparison on the two?

Like I said before I used for over a year on my lanyard so I don't have any problem trusting it.

 

[canopyboy]

I havent had any luck with the VT still, I can get it to work but just cant get the trust level up on it. The distel on the other hand I am falling in love with. I almost hated to untie today the thing was running so well (maybe need to start leaving it on the line). Anyone truly used both and can give an honest comparison on the two?

No, but after reading about the Distel lovers on this site I'm thinking of trying it for a few climbs so that I can see how it compares. Moss was also talking about the XT which seems to be a combination of the two and sounds interesting. All in due time though....

 

[Adkpk]

I take back my torture statement. After the initial ascent yesterday I attached the set up directly to my bridge reset the line and discovered it works real well pulling down over the hitch and tending slack with the other. Bravo for the hitch climber. Oh ya and as far as where your hitch is for limb walking it's perfect. No more reaching for the blakes.

 

[oldirty]

it really is that good.

bravo indeed!


good job bob.

 

[simplypete]

termination knot?

I'm curious about a few things. I just got a hitchclimber in the mail the other day. I've seen the hitchclimber used with a spliced line and was wondering about using a knot as the termination. I was just thinking that the end knot termination would interfere with the climbing hitch. Any thoughts on this. Thanks for any help, I am looking forward to using this piece just looking for the right time and setup. This thread has helped out a lot already.

 

[oldirty]

I'm curious about a few things. I just got a hitchclimber in the mail the other day. I've seen the hitchclimber used with a spliced line and was wondering about using a knot as the termination. I was just thinking that the end knot termination would interfere with the climbing hitch. Any thoughts on this. Thanks for any help, I am looking forward to using this piece just looking for the right time and setup. This thread has helped out a lot already.

i clip the bottom biner to my bridge and run the prussic ( martin) off that same biner. then in the second hole i clip the biner that i deadend to. i do not have a spliced climbing line and i find the scaffold/double fisherman knot that i terminate with gets in the way if in the first hole (top hole if looking down at it) when the knot is trying to set it self. so i go with the top hole open.
stay safe!

just dont leave too long a tail on your termination knot or have too much of a mess or you will be cramped for space in that area. and by mess i mean some people like to finish their knot with all kinds of half hitches that will take up space.

 

[Bermie]

...i clip the bottom biner to my bridge and run the prussic ( martin) off that same biner. then in the second hole i clip the biner that i deadend to. i do not have a spliced climbing line and i find the scaffold/double fisherman knot that i terminate with gets in the way if in the first hole (top hole if looking down at it) when the knot is trying to set it self. so i go with the top hole open.

i am thinking that if you run it they same way your spliced eye can go in the top hole no problem.

have fun with that thing man. stay safe!

Ditto, exactly the same on mine, I have to keep a little closer eye on the setup because from time to time the knot on the end of my line can interfere with the VT, even in the second hole...

As for the hand over hand above the VT, sure it works for me for a shortish ascent, I'm light enough and not going up for a long distance...I'll admit it's not ideal, but we all make compromises. I certainly would extend it from the bridge if I had a long way up to go.

As for the distel vs VT, I went from blakes to distel to VT. I have found that the VT/hitchclimber is the easiest setup for a selftending hitch/pulley combination. I found the distel (icetail) would not release enough to allow the rope to slide easily through it pulling with one hand, there was just still too much 'grab'. Moving to the VT, with the icetail it releases sufficiently for everything to slide nicely, even without a friction saver up at the TIP. The hitchclimber setup stays 'up' where I found with the single pulley it would 'drop' between pulls, and at that time the blakes or distel as I already said wouldn't release enough to be able to one hand it to my satisfaction.

I still have a distel/single pulley on my lanyards, the sideways pull works just fine and I want the little extra grab for the short distances it is adjusted.

The caution point is with the good release of the VT you have to remain aware of that fact, and get used to having that in the back of your mind when sitting back on it, especially if your rope is not spliced!

WHew....

 

[Adkpk]

Get those eyes spliced "hitch climbers", it's the cat's meow.

 

[Bermie]

At least the eyes on my hitch cord are spliced...

I was considering stitching an eye into my climbing line, I have a load of waxed sailmakers twine, stitch about 3" and then whip it all tight and put a clear shrink wrap over it. ???

 

[tree md]

At least the eyes on my hitch cord are spliced...

I was considering stitching an eye into my climbing line, I have a load of waxed sailmakers twine, stitch about 3" and then whip it all tight and put a clear shrink wrap over it. ???

Ghillie is the man when it comes to splicing. Do a search on rainy day splicing (or something like that). I plan to get a splicing kit myself this Summer.

 

[D Mc]

Bermie, please give this a little more thought. Depending on your thread count and stitching skills you could create a tremendously strong eye or one that would fail at the most inappropriate time. The problem is you won't know which one you have achieved. Grizzly splices are amazingly strong but they have very specific stitch pattern and thread count that has been researched and tested.

I would not trust a one off hand-stitched eye for life support when there are so many better choices out there.

Dave

 

[pdqdl]

Ghillie is the man when it comes to splicing. Do a search on rainy day splicing (or something like that). I plan to get a splicing kit myself this Summer.

Notwithstanding Ghillies fine looking efforts, he is just a recent newcomer to splicing. Check out Moray's many threads on splicing; he has been testing to destruction many different splices.