Wanted new or used 7015 or sc60tx is thier really a difference?
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Mowingman
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I think Alexander Equipment, in Illinois, has new, used, and demo 7015TRX machines in stock. They have some listed on Ebay right now. You can get their phone number off their website and call them.
Jeff
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Thanks mowing man, Ive been after one of the 7015 trx for over 2 years now and gotten quotes from $72000 (canadian) now feb 2014 from my nearest carlton rep, its pretty discouraging to be honest, so i think i will have to starting looking elsewhere, i would like to know if the price have really jumped that much from last years base price?
I was quoted $53000 from vermeer for a new sc60tx, is the 7015trx really worth the $10000-$19000 better of a machine? I cant even demo a 7015 here the rep said they are only built to order
I was quoted $53000 from vermeer for a new sc60tx, is the 7015trx really worth the $10000-$19000 better of a machine? I cant even demo a 7015 here the rep said they are only built to order
Mowingman
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The price on stumpgrinders has increased a huge amount over the last 4 or 5 years. As I recall, I gave about $45,000 for my 7015TRX back 5 years ago. Now, the new price is about $65,000. Alexander has a demo unit for sale at around $61,000.
In my opinion, Carlton is the best across the board. Vermeer isn't even close in design or durability.
In my opinion, Carlton is the best across the board. Vermeer isn't even close in design or durability.
Due to the Canadian dollar dropping almost 10 cent under us dollar its way too much to buy anything US, its too bad there isnt any 7015s up here north of the border
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I have operated my 7015trx for about 6 years with a sanvik wheel and now just replaced it with a new river Revoliution wheel. I have thrown every thing at it from small domestic work to large site clearance 3000 stumps plus on on site alone.
Maintain it well purge bearings daily.
It will run circles around vermeers sc60tx
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theres not even a comparision between the vermeer and the carlton. the carlton is a way better machine 10000 times over. A TON of people buy vermeer cause they have a local vermeer dealer who will service it. the end result is why buy a machine that will break all the time and take it to the dealer to fix. buy a machine like a carlton that will never break , makes sense to me
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Fairbanks Stump
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There is no comparison my 7015 will work all day long side by side with the new 1152 vermeer the hydraulic direct drive is an automatic loss of 30% power and direct drive is inherently insufficient the hydraulics are slower than the Carlton
So basically I'm saying with the belt drive you transfer 98% of the raw power through 2 belts directly to the ground. The slough speed and the reaction is adjustable it is 2/3 the cost of a mass produced breakdown machine.
Carlton's are hand built from the turn table to the wire soldering on the electronics!
There is no comparison!
Grease it daily if the soil is vary dry and abrasive don't feel bad about greasing the cutting wheel at lunch time.
Like like the wheeled machine but depending on terrain the trx model may work for you I've not found any place I couldn't just use the rubber tires dualed up.
So basically I'm saying with the belt drive you transfer 98% of the raw power through 2 belts directly to the ground. The slough speed and the reaction is adjustable it is 2/3 the cost of a mass produced breakdown machine.
Carlton's are hand built from the turn table to the wire soldering on the electronics!
There is no comparison!
Grease it daily if the soil is vary dry and abrasive don't feel bad about greasing the cutting wheel at lunch time.
Like like the wheeled machine but depending on terrain the trx model may work for you I've not found any place I couldn't just use the rubber tires dualed up.
I have a 2012 SP7015TRX for sale that has a 66hp Kubota, 631 hours, standard cutter wheel with 1100 series GreenTeeth, remote, hydraulic scrape blade, and is very good condition. I have it listed on the Tradin Post.
If you're interested, please let me know.
Thanks,
Dave
Global Equipment Exporters
770-966-9056
If you're interested, please let me know.
Thanks,
Dave
Global Equipment Exporters
770-966-9056
I Have demoed as of 2014, A used carlton 7015trx with 60hp doetz, and a brand new 2014 7015 trx with 66hp Kubota and was not impress they bog down really bad even with experienced operator,yes they are fast swing and neat with the tracks but the jumping and bouncing and in a strain is pretty bad,...demoed a 2014 8018,...liked it but way to heavy and tear up the yards,....and are not as efficient as the 7015,...but takes a bigger bite and no jerking or bouncing,.......demoed a 2014 rg100x and r remote ...grea engineered machines quality craftsmanship and a lot of power and fast,....looks like a factory built machine like the Vermeer,...not sand blasted and painted ,....very nice good cutting machines,simple ,smooth and easy to operate,........demoed 2 different 1152 vermeers ,.... powerfull,smooth,fast easy to operate qulity machine like the rayco,......demoed the full hydro bandit 2900t 2013 with 22hrs. .....nice smooth good cutting machine,.....wheel bogged a little under a large cut,...well made quality machine was remote,.....just not sure about the cost of repairs of the tracks and don't seem to be many out there,.....all the 100hp machines are stronger than a 7015 ,they are all good machines.
Fairbanks Stump
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...all the 100hp machines are stronger than a 7015 ,they are all good machines
I too have tested demo'd and prototype worked every machine for which you have spoken of, and the only way I got any of the results you spoke of was with different cutting wheels. With out bad mouthing any of the systems out there (for which I have done else where feel free to look up any of my reviews on other threads)
In the 80 horsepower and lower class the horsepower to the ground on the 7015 with the Kubota is absolutely with out a shadow of a doubt the highest! And with either the new river wheel or Carlton's razor wheel it will cut faster than any other machine in its class.
I have also run mine head to head against one of Vermeer's bad boys the Sc1152 (for those of you who havnt seen them it's a 80k 110 hp behemoth.
With me running the 7015 I out produced in total inches cut in an hour with less fuel and was tied down and loaded faster too.
The really amazing thing was we traded machines for an hour and my buddy running my machine out produced me running his machine so if that dosnt show a fair representation of what 48k at 2.15 gallons per hour will do vs 80k at 4.6 gallons per hour I don't know what will.
As I've said before 3 things that matter in stump grinding
1) horsepower and delivery to the ground!
2) cutting wheel Weight and sharpness of teeth
3) operator skill ( for this there is no substitute!) I grind 10,000 stumps a year or more and have since 1997 with my old 4400-4.
I have found that my new 7015 with the new Kubota 66 turbo and new river wheel will out produce every residential machine on the market with little or no damage to customers lawns and besides that I am in and out very quickly and produce a result that causes most of my customers to refer all their friends.
Hope this helps
I too have tested demo'd and prototype worked every machine for which you have spoken of, and the only way I got any of the results you spoke of was with different cutting wheels. With out bad mouthing any of the systems out there (for which I have done else where feel free to look up any of my reviews on other threads)
In the 80 horsepower and lower class the horsepower to the ground on the 7015 with the Kubota is absolutely with out a shadow of a doubt the highest! And with either the new river wheel or Carlton's razor wheel it will cut faster than any other machine in its class.
I have also run mine head to head against one of Vermeer's bad boys the Sc1152 (for those of you who havnt seen them it's a 80k 110 hp behemoth.
With me running the 7015 I out produced in total inches cut in an hour with less fuel and was tied down and loaded faster too.
The really amazing thing was we traded machines for an hour and my buddy running my machine out produced me running his machine so if that dosnt show a fair representation of what 48k at 2.15 gallons per hour will do vs 80k at 4.6 gallons per hour I don't know what will.
As I've said before 3 things that matter in stump grinding
1) horsepower and delivery to the ground!
2) cutting wheel Weight and sharpness of teeth
3) operator skill ( for this there is no substitute!) I grind 10,000 stumps a year or more and have since 1997 with my old 4400-4.
I have found that my new 7015 with the new Kubota 66 turbo and new river wheel will out produce every residential machine on the market with little or no damage to customers lawns and besides that I am in and out very quickly and produce a result that causes most of my customers to refer all their friends.
Hope this helps
From what I have seen if you want the hype of the trx and a 60k 60hp machine go with carlton ,..or if you want a 100hp for a compairible price shop around,....lot more grinder for the money ,...every single 7015 I have seen being used just don't get it for me,....just my opinion.
Fairbanks Stump
iStumpgrinder
just my opinion.
I'll make you a deal opinion or no opinion buy what ever you can afford with less than 150 hp and I will cut head to head with you Mano-a-Mano and I promise you you will go home wishing you saved the money and purchased the only still hand made piece of tree equipment in America! The reason I can make this is very simple as I have also stated before
Horsepower to the ground!
When transferring horsepower through hydraulics you automatically loose 45% and gears loose 20%, the geometry of every cutting head on the market is sub quality!
Belts transfer 97% from shive to shive and 99% with a cogged belt
I'll make you a deal opinion or no opinion buy what ever you can afford with less than 150 hp and I will cut head to head with you Mano-a-Mano and I promise you you will go home wishing you saved the money and purchased the only still hand made piece of tree equipment in America! The reason I can make this is very simple as I have also stated before
Horsepower to the ground!
When transferring horsepower through hydraulics you automatically loose 45% and gears loose 20%, the geometry of every cutting head on the market is sub quality!
Belts transfer 97% from shive to shive and 99% with a cogged belt
you don't have to prove any thing to me ,..I have seen and ran them all ,..... say what you want about the carltons ,...old technology with a very high new tech. price ,....those things might be a little faster from point to point ,..but I prefer a grinder that quality and detail go hand in hand,...I don't even think the sanvic is worth all the hype,....I want to grind and not have to worry about working on the machine when I'm done. But hay I would not drive all way from Alaska to have my machine painted and redone either,.....I would just buy a new one. Each to their own I guess. they are all very good machines to take a beating like they do.
Fairbanks Stump
iStumpgrinder
There was a lot more than paint done!
ie. replacement of deutz junk w/new Kubota.
Inch for inch and hours for fuel the sandvik wheel out cuts everything on the market by a 50% margin this summer I have 534 hrs on the new machine so far and maintenance has been 2 tubes short of a case of grease? So I'm not sure what you are referring to.
That matched with higher percentage of power to the ground makes the best in all categories and again as I've said before I have all the data written and recorded for 7 major wheel teeth combos on 9 machines ranging from 20 hp to 110
But hell I guess 180,000+ stumps since 1997 with primarily 3 machines means not much.
4 articles and 3 prototype tests to my credit mean not much either.
What ever floats your boat, this is not a ford vs Chevy debate.... This is pure and simple facts vs huge advertising budget. the fancy flyers and implement stores don't mean anything against the Facts if you are willing to see them
ie. replacement of deutz junk w/new Kubota.
Inch for inch and hours for fuel the sandvik wheel out cuts everything on the market by a 50% margin this summer I have 534 hrs on the new machine so far and maintenance has been 2 tubes short of a case of grease? So I'm not sure what you are referring to.
That matched with higher percentage of power to the ground makes the best in all categories and again as I've said before I have all the data written and recorded for 7 major wheel teeth combos on 9 machines ranging from 20 hp to 110
But hell I guess 180,000+ stumps since 1997 with primarily 3 machines means not much.
4 articles and 3 prototype tests to my credit mean not much either.
What ever floats your boat, this is not a ford vs Chevy debate.... This is pure and simple facts vs huge advertising budget. the fancy flyers and implement stores don't mean anything against the Facts if you are willing to see them
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Jon,
like every time, very interesting. Really looking forward to your anounced article about grinding hopefully coming at the end of the season!
In my country there is a small but experienced Community around grinding, I've not tested it myself, but Jon, could you confirm that a sandvic is a waste on machines with less than 50hp?
How many hrs did the deutz last?
Many thanks
Marne
like every time, very interesting. Really looking forward to your anounced article about grinding hopefully coming at the end of the season!
In my country there is a small but experienced Community around grinding, I've not tested it myself, but Jon, could you confirm that a sandvic is a waste on machines with less than 50hp?
How many hrs did the deutz last?
Many thanks
Marne
Fairbanks Stump
iStumpgrinder
I'm not so sure that it's a waste to use the sandvic teeth on less than 50 hp as I am sure that for the difference in money to upgrade to something with 50 or more hp is well worth the money. Because let's face it 2 4012's or super Jr's can not cut as well or as fast as one rg50 or 7015 inch for inch or hour per gallon
When time is money Waisting time is never a good thing!
When time is money Waisting time is never a good thing!
Fairbanks Stump
iStumpgrinder
In another thread I outlined the performance of my deutz....
First engine got 235 hrs and the crankshaft failed (broke between #2 warranty issue
2nd engine lasted 10 hrs piston in #2 broke turned sideways in the bore and broke the cylinder head. Deutz didn't want to warranty the engine again but after a protracted legal battle they air freighted me a 3rd engine.
The 3rd engine was severely detuned and they would do nothing about it! After 465 hrs I decided to go Back to NC and have Carlton retrofit my machine with the new engine it was the best thing I ever did! This machine is awesome the power is only 6hp higher than the original deutz but going from 3 to 4 cyl significantly increased the torque (or staying power) allows me to run the slough speed at 100% and cut concuderably deeper much faster!
First engine got 235 hrs and the crankshaft failed (broke between #2 warranty issue
2nd engine lasted 10 hrs piston in #2 broke turned sideways in the bore and broke the cylinder head. Deutz didn't want to warranty the engine again but after a protracted legal battle they air freighted me a 3rd engine.
The 3rd engine was severely detuned and they would do nothing about it! After 465 hrs I decided to go Back to NC and have Carlton retrofit my machine with the new engine it was the best thing I ever did! This machine is awesome the power is only 6hp higher than the original deutz but going from 3 to 4 cyl significantly increased the torque (or staying power) allows me to run the slough speed at 100% and cut concuderably deeper much faster!
