whadja do today?

[jomoco]

To the extent you're recommending using one lockable clevis exclusively for rigging, and an additional locking clevis on the same Shur-Loc hook for the climber to tie into?

I whole heartedly agree! Both need to be below the swivel point to make fouling and entanglement impossible.

jomoco

 

[no tree to big]

My ball don't swivel and my climber does not have a problem.... And yea he normally ties into the hook, yea yea.... So being tied above the ball should cause no problem

 

[jomoco]

How many of you guys run cranes with no swivel hooks?

Other than too big?

Keep em off my tree jobs please...

jomoco

 

[no tree to big]

One of our cranes has a swivel one don't I prefer the no swivel

 

[OLD OAK]

Ball no swivel, hook does swivel. But that hook thing that jomoco is talking about, i just dont like it.

 

[jomoco]

So when you're tied into that hook and the CO snugs up the load?

It don't swivel, and your climber's line doesn't get snarled, right?

You my friend are full of it ...

jomoco

 

[jomoco]

You are the typical low info tree service that uses cranes with no idea of the forces involved that has the potential of killing or maiming your climbers out of sheer ignorance mate,

You are the embodiment of of the ANSI Z133 committee's worst nightmare come to life!

Ain't yu proud of yourself?

jomoco

 

[no tree to big]

Mmmmm my climber generally is also not tied into me when I snug up.... And not once has he ever been whipped.around that's absurd

 

[jomoco]

Swivels?

I don't need no stinkin swivels lifting 3 ton picks!

jomoco

 

[no tree to big]

And who are u the top salesman for your double triple locking anti foaming tie dye rotating hook contraption?

 

[jomoco]

So when you're tied into that hook and the CO snugs up the load?

It don't swivel, and your climber's line doesn't get snarled, right?

You my friend are full of it ...

jomoco

Mmmmm my climber generally is also not tied into me when I snug up.... And not once has he ever been whipped.around that's absurd

So I gather it's SOP for your climber to bail before he knows for a fact that the pick is snug and secure?

How long you been at this without a fatality now?

jomoco

 

[no tree to big]

So I gather it's SOP for your climber to bail before he knows for a fact that the pick is snug and secure?

How long you been at this without a fatality now?

jomoco

My climber is generally waiting for me to get back to him, he climbs the tree... I don't give him free rides often... Soooo he is not tied into me but once or twice a tree... And the Co. has never had a fatality....!!!

 

[jomoco]

Ball no swivel, hook does swivel. But that hook thing that jomoco is talking about, i just dont like it. View attachment 370967

So when you're tied into that hook and the CO snugs up the load?

It don't swivel, and your climber's line doesn't get snarled, right?

You my friend are full of it ...

jomoco

You and your flimsy gate latches are an embarrassment to every pro outfit in this industry mate.

Spend some coin to get safe yu tight wad!

jomoco

 

[no tree to big]

Ok I'll help you meet your quota just to shut u the **** up I'll take 7 where can I get one?

 

[jomoco]

There yu go mate,everyone home safe at the end of the work day!

We'll make a pro of you yet!

jomoco

 

[jomoco]

Well I guess I must have washed my hands in a muddy stream..



jomoco

 

[no tree to big]

Huh? Do u ever get the feeling nobody likes u

 

[dbl612]

Bypass the swivel mechanism?

Is that your experienced and certified advice dbl612?

jomoco

i'm telling you what z133 requires. the swivel issue is moot as most cranes today use non-rotational cable and the hoisting of the climber is for workplace positioning. when the load is applied to cable the climber is either tied of to the tree or another TIP. climber and load are not supposed to be handled simultaneously on the same line. and thats my reply, based on the rules that are written presently by ANSI and accepted presently by OSHA as they have no tree-specific rules at this time. OSHA has quite detailed and specific requirements for hoisting personnel with cranes in construction applications, and it can be generally said it is to be used only when all other methods don't fit the site-specific application. as far as my credentials, i have been involved with crane op training for over twenty years, and am a NCCCO certified test examiner and crane inspector.

 

[jomoco]

And I'm telling you to go to this link's second to last instruction, that explicitly states the Shur-Loc's suitability for hoisting personnel on the bloody hook. The absolutely undoubtably rugged enough hook to bounce 200 lbs off the bloody hook's safety latch alone.

http://www.thecrosbygroup.com/portals/0/docs/newproducts/s3326.pdf

Are yu startin tu get the picture mate?

Hung up rigging in canopies, upside down crane balls bending n breaking flimsy gate latches?

Hello, anyone home?

jomoco

 

[chief116]

Looks chintzy, don't want it on my crane.

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