whadja do today?

[treevet]

I did my tallest climb today

 

[gorman]

I really don't get what the wedges are for. Wedges= maybe it will go where you want it to. Rope= you WILL go where I want you to. Wedges are redundant.

Even when you got a machine on the rope it’s nice to set your hinge and not have to tell the operator to inch back to keep the thing from sitting back on the bar. Just put a wedge in the back

 

[capetrees]

I understand the rope tied high to direct the tree. Do it all the time. But why is it tied to the base of the tree and run up the side of the tree like that?

 

[treevet]

Even when you got a machine on the rope it’s nice to set your hinge and not have to tell the operator to inch back to keep the thing from sitting back on the bar. Just put a wedge in the back

If it sits back on the bar it may be about to snap off. The wedges can create a fulcrum that adds to that.

I would never let an operator be in control of the pull over if there is stuff around it could hit should the operator fk up or pass out or whatever (get a cell call, be high...). I am gonna spring the tree forward with the pullover vehicle be it mini, truck (and lock it with em brake and in gear and chock)...and usually it will just go over from the tension of the bent tree. If questionable at all with back lean...I am gonna stress it AND put a come a long on it after setting the pullover vehicle, chock it and lock the emergency and put it in gear and turn it off. Sometimes I will set 2 pullover ropes and come alongs and go back and forth on them gaining more on each cranking. No hurry and keep holding wood.

 

[treevet]

I understand the rope tied high to direct the tree. Do it all the time. But why is it tied to the base of the tree and run up the side of the tree like that?

Because he set it with a big shot...thro line. No need for a climb when done this way.

 

[ZinTrees]

I understand the rope tied high to direct the tree. Do it all the time. But why is it tied to the base of the tree and run up the side of the tree like that?

my understanding is it helps stop it from a barberchair, since as you pull it squeeze's the tree

 

[Rabid K9]

I understand the rope tied high to direct the tree. Do it all the time. But why is it tied to the base of the tree and run up the side of the tree like that?

Load transfer.

 

[Rabid K9]

No last week.

See. You do have a sense of humour!!

 

[Rabid K9]

Had a fun job last two days, two solid Tasmanian bluegums (32-35m, 900-1m DBH) wedged between elaborate house, elaborate gardens, high fence & riparian reserve. Their tight position made the size seem relatively larger

Aside from the budget, no way in for a half decent size crane, let alone a monster that would have been needed to reach the trees (struggled to get trucks down battle-axe driveway & sloping, wet turning circle) & not quite enough clearance to zipline over house, so it was 'old school' rigging, swinging big tops, bombing heavy blocks, lots of air, having the birds flying underneath, all into a two metre by six metre 'hole'. Of course the Vermeer was invaluable lifting everything out through tight access, even used some ply & conveyor matting to pad the concrete car parking strips we had to cross (which almost never do in this region). Clean wood & new chains on a few of the saws, along with light winds made for some sawdust spraying fun.

Lady was one of those 'testers', had rescheduled job twice already, she just 'had' to be there, couldn't ruffle a leaf while working, watched us like a hawk the whole time, rushed out to see what we'd broken each sometime big hit the ground, then was disappointed. She started on us first thing when positioning gear yesterday morning, trying to tell us how to drive the trucks, plan for the job etc. Being Monday morning, my patience lasted five minutes, until I politely asked her to step back let us do our job, we have a plan, we are more than proficient, let us get to work....

Because of the proximity to house & design of house, we had pretty much send blocks past their living room window & horizon pool, took some gratification when dropped the first big log straight onto a big bed log, which caused someone inside to leviate vertically the other way past the window.

But was more satisfying, when she begrudgingly came out towards end of first day & said 'I cannot believe how much you guys have got done in a day, the last guys we used had six guys cutting the tree into tiny bits & carrying it out, took them two days to do one tree, broke more things & cost more....and that cute little machine is just amazing how much power it has". Should have put more sauce on the quote was my though.

Meanwhile on the adjoining vacant block, another crew was working today, six guys felling a few trees, cutting them into tiny bits & stacking a burn pile because too slippery for a small truck to get out of with chipper. Not a machine or decent sized truck in site....

Could see there guys working there were buggered & moving like molasses by 1000. Don't now how established businesses still do it so labour intensively....

 

[ZinTrees]

View attachment 929392

looks like my mossberg

also, that climb was 75ft, not much to brag about but its a start

 

[capetrees]

Load transfer.

What?

Tie the rope to the base of the tree and then, I assume, run the rope up to the top of the tree and down to pull the loose end and that somehow transfers the load?

 

[treevet]

What?

Tie the rope to the base of the tree and then, I assume, run the rope up to the top of the tree and down to pull the loose end and that somehow transfers the load?

In reality it actually stresses DOWN and out so a tie off in the top would be superior...but it works ...and no need to climb to install a pull rope...that is the benefit...not somehow stopping a barberchair mentioned by the youngster.

What?

Tie the rope to the base of the tree and then, I assume, run the rope up to the top of the tree and down to pull the loose end and that somehow transfers the load?

love your avatar of My President.

 

[ZinTrees]

not somehow stopping a barberchair mentioned by the youngster.

actually, your wrong

it cinches around the ass end of the log, when your pulling with a machine this is important, so if it spilts its contained

 

[treevet]

wrong by the adolescent ^

 

[treevet]

Generally a running bowline is tied at the base. That won't contain anything.

 

[ZinTrees]

That won't contain anything.

unless of course, its being pulled tight, ya know, like it is when your pulling the tree over

 

[gorman]

actually, your wrong

it cinches around the ass end of the log, when your pulling with a machine this is important, so if it spilts its contained

That’s not gonna stop it. Try that on a leaning ash and see how that works out. Just stay to the side.

 

[treevet]

unless of course, its being pulled tight, ya know, like it is when your pulling the tree over

but it is not gonna STAY tight when a barber chair explodes....is it dummy? It's a slip knot.

 

[treevet]

That’s not gonna stop it. Try that on a leaning ash and see how that works out. Just stay to the side.

I have created barberchairs on purpose so you can take more time to examine. Fun but hairy.

 

[treevet]

2 experienced tree guys arguing with a 15 year old who thinks he knows it all already