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[joatmon]

This is one for the books! People argueing over the 290 being a good saw?

Ah, read the posts again. We've got a couple of Northern European guys that have been blinded by the midnight sun or something. We're just trying to show them some conventional wisdom, that a lower priced Stihl with dealer support in a non-pro frame may be, just may be, a good choice for a homeowner that is not going to farm timber. Yep, just might be better than going to a "big box" store where the sales(wo)man has never used a saw and where they have no ability or desire to support and service a sale.

We're just making this tougher than it needs to be. Some people want a lower priced saw and like having a place, in fact, the same place, that will fix and service before mentioned lower priced chainsaw.

Repeat after me: I can see clearly now,

Jack

 

[belgian]

OK, Peter. Riddle me this. Stihl is number 1 in chainsaw sales. Right? The 029/290 is their number 1 seller. Right? If the 029/290 is so bad, how can this all be?

Now, I'm sure that the 029/290 will not work for you and ole Troll. If you had to use one, you'd probably go crazy and get hauled off in a straight jacket. I know I don't want that, and I'm pretty sure Stihl nor any Stihl dealers wants that. Listen up Mow, Tommie and Andy. You want to force a 290 on old Peter or Andy? OK, there you go. See? They're not trying to force it upon you.

Now many of us homeowner types cut occasionally and have a budget. We have other hobbies. Might be college football. May be water sports. Might be woodworking. Might be having a beach house, beach condo or even a place in the mountains. So we go to a dealer and say, "Well, $300 for a saw I'll use 3, 4, maybe 5 times a year on makes sense". Mine's been used like that since '91, that's 1991, and it's still works fine. See, good old American boys tend to use what they have, and sometimes it's not the best. Take my ride. I used to have a BMW 530i, sport pack, manual (not the manual of AS fame) transmission. Nice, high tech VANOS engine. Sweet. Now I'm toting the family and me around in my Suburban. Yep. Old pushrod engine that traces it's origin back to 1954. You weren't around then, were you? This old 5.3 liter motor (we Yanks call 'em 323 cubic inches) does the trick. I know, I know. Two rides and you'd be passing judgement and all.

So, Peter, the old 029/290 is NOT the BEST chainsaw. But most every weekend, some Yank, heck mayby a thousand Yanks or more, pull 'em out of the garage, fire 'em up, and go to work.

Sorry to have to open you eyes, but, that's a full report from the good ole USA,

Jack

PS: Peter and Troll, please make a link to this post to save yourselves from future embarrassment.

Wow, joatmon not only writes good poems, he has a keen eye also :rockn:

PS. I know a couple of Stihl dealers like yours in my area. Like Lake said, I have looked for another one and found a great dealer 20 miles away. You don't have to accept bad service.

just for the record, my nearest Stihl dealer is a family business run by 3 brothers and a sister. Through history, I bought from this shop a Stihl 038AV, a Maruyama Trimmer, a HS75, a FS88, A kubota lawn mower and a back hoe for my Kubota tractor. I always dealt with the same brother, very nice guy.
I also have to tell that I regularly drop in that shop for spare parts, garden tools, etc. and since I like looking at the new stuff, I always pay a visit to their showroom. Now one other brother saw me a few times in the showroom, and came to see me one day. I was looking at replacing my 038AV. When I decided not to buy it at that time (I was not in a hurry), he said : "I've seen you a couple of times here but never see you buy something. I think this shop can not sell you anything, I may be waisting my time with you."

I replied : if every customer who visited your shop had bought as much equipment as I did, you could probably retire, but I agree, this shop will never sell me anything again. And as I am a man of my word, I never did buy from them again.

 

[joatmon]

Send this to Stihl, and, move your business elsewhere!

Andy,

Well, I did look at Ace Hardware, but the kid I spoke with had never heard of the 441 when I asked about comparing the 440 to the 441. Kinda like a "big box" store approach.

I believe that sometimes the dealer attitude I mentioned is an unfortunate byproduct of an "exclusive franchise" type of operation.

My point remains: There are many Stihl dealers; some great, some good, some not so good, and a few Ace Hardwares.

Kudos to the real saw shops and the pros,

Jack

 

[joatmon]

You got it, come on up here and meet the King,LOLOL

We're loadin' the Suburban and headin' your way,
We'll drive all night, we'll drive all day,

The wifey and two boys I will bring,
Goin' to Leesburg to meet the KING,

"How much longer is it gonna be?",
"Can't we stop now, I've gotta pee?"

Wifey is in agony all through the trip,
I'm pipe dreamin' of a 660 blip,

I say to the boys, "we'll be there soon",
"Don't even think about goin' in 'THE ROOM'",

"Keep your eyes open and stay close to maw",
"Run like the devil if his hands leave the saw".

 

[belgian]

Wifey is in agony all through the trip,
I'm pipe dreamin' of a 660 blip,

.

LOL, while you are blipping that 660, watch your wifey closely at all times...

and don't bring any more money than you need...

 

[Just Mow]

Just Mow,

I've got no beef with you. You, Tommie, Andy and others seem like great Stihl dealers. But, they're not all great, IMHO.

I've purchased a 029 (long story), FS80, BG85 and BR600 from my local dealer. I've purchased many plugs, trim line, and repair parts for these Stihls and a Toro mower from this store. My most recent experiences from this dealer:

1. My wife bought the BG85 home in a box, so much for "demoing" it for the customer.

2. When I bought the BR600, the proprietor seemed offended that I wanted to know how to start and run this blower. I didn't see the same controls as other Stihl products and wasn't sure. I got a 10 second demo.

3. I brought my mower in for a major repair. Three weeks later I was told that since I wasn't a "pro", I was not a priority. Took it home, took it apart, found an IPL on the net, ordered parts. Oh, I had to come in a pay for the parts before they were ordered.

4. In March, I considered a 440, but the proprietor refused to talk to me about saws. Sent over a rookie with a brochere.

5. Saturday, stopped in to look at 660s. Treated like a leper in the middle ages.

Now, you can count the number of Stihl delaers all day long. I just know that they don't all count for me.

So, Just Mow, just call me Just Know.

Sorry you got stuck with a lazy dealer. Not all like that.

 

[newguy18]

Sorry you got stuck with a lazy dealer. Not all like that.

You said you had it with stihl you told me you were becoming a poulan dealer because you love wild thingeys.

 

[sILlogger]

OK, Peter. Riddle me this. Stihl is number 1 in chainsaw sales. Right? The 029/290 is their number 1 seller. Right? If the 029/290 is so bad, how can this all be?

Now, I'm sure that the 029/290 will not work for you and ole Troll. If you had to use one, you'd probably go crazy and get hauled off in a straight jacket. I know I don't want that, and I'm pretty sure Stihl nor any Stihl dealers wants that. Listen up Mow, Tommie and Andy. You want to force a 290 on old Peter or Andy? OK, there you go. See? They're not trying to force it upon you.

Now many of us homeowner types cut occasionally and have a budget. We have other hobbies. Might be college football. May be water sports. Might be woodworking. Might be having a beach house, beach condo or even a place in the mountains. So we go to a dealer and say, "Well, $300 for a saw I'll use 3, 4, maybe 5 times a year on makes sense". Mine's been used like that since '91, that's 1991, and it's still works fine. See, good old American boys tend to use what they have, and sometimes it's not the best. Take my ride. I used to have a BMW 530i, sport pack, manual (not the manual of AS fame) transmission. Nice, high tech VANOS engine. Sweet. Now I'm toting the family and me around in my Suburban. Yep. Old pushrod engine that traces it's origin back to 1954. You weren't around then, were you? This old 5.3 liter motor (we Yanks call 'em 323 cubic inches) does the trick. I know, I know. Two rides and you'd be passing judgement and all.

So, Peter, the old 029/290 is NOT the BEST chainsaw. But most every weekend, some Yank, heck mayby a thousand Yanks or more, pull 'em out of the garage, fire 'em up, and go to work.

Sorry to have to open you eyes, but, that's a full report from the good ole USA,

Jack

PS: Peter and Troll, please make a link to this post to save yourselves from future embarrassment.

not trying to be a PITA, or rain on anyones parade but the 5.3 L is a 327 ci motor

 

[joatmon]

Warning: Contains more information than anyone wants!

not trying to be a PITA, or rain on anyones parade but the 5.3 L is a 327 ci motor

Chevrolet has said that the CI displacement of the 5.3 is 323 CI and 325 CI. The 327 is used for nastalgic reasons. The actual bore is 3.78" and the stroke is 3.62". I calculate to 324.99 CI. I don't know why GM used 323 CI for a while and now claims 325 CI. BTW, when my Suburban was produced, a 2004 model, GM called it 323, hence the number I used.

 

[sILlogger]

well h*ll i got a 2001 silverado and they call it a 327, y can't anyone make life simple!!

 

[Just Mow]

We're loadin' the Suburban and headin' your way,
We'll drive all night, we'll drive all day,

The wifey and two boys I will bring,
Goin' to Leesburg to meet the KING,

"How much longer is it gonna be?",
"Can't we stop now, I've gotta pee?"

Wifey is in agony all through the trip,
I'm pipe dreamin' of a 660 blip,

I say to the boys, "we'll be there soon",
"Don't even think about goin' in 'THE ROOM'",

"Keep your eyes open and stay close to maw",
"Run like the devil if his hands leave the saw".

You sure you dont work for hallmark. If not lets start a chainsaw forum greeting card business. :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Just Mow]

You said you had it with stihl you told me you were becoming a poulan dealer because you love wild thingeys.

I am, gotta love those wild thingeys. You beat me into submission and I am going over to the other side.




In your wildest dreams Squirt

 

[chowdozer]

I am, gotta love those wild thingeys. You beat me into submission and I am going over to the other side.




In your wildest dreams Squirt

Mow, I think you just made a friend and customer for life!

 

[newguy18]

Mow, I think you just made a friend and customer for life!

You gonna buy his wild thingeys?Hey i would buy one before i bought a stihl.

 

[Lakeside53]

Andy,

Well, I did look at Ace Hardware, but the kid I spoke with had never heard of the 441 when I asked about comparing the 440 to the 441. Kinda like a "big box" store approach.

I believe that sometimes the dealer attitude I mentioned is an unfortunate byproduct of an "exclusive franchise" type of operation.

My point remains: There are many Stihl dealers; some great, some good, some not so good, and a few Ace Hardwares.

Kudos to the real saw shops and the pros,

Jack

Not much "exclusive" about a stihl dealership. Apply to set one up a couple of miles away and show them how to do it right!

 

[Just Mow]

Mow, I think you just made a friend and customer for life!

Chow, go back and look at the fine print in my post.

 

[Just Mow]

You gonna buy his wild thingeys?Hey i would buy one before i bought a stihl.

Your Paw told me you was fond of crap.

 

[chowdozer]

Chow, go back and look at the fine print in my post.

I saw that but only after I replied. Verry sneaky!

 

[newguy18]

Your Paw told me you was fond of crap.

Not as much crap as in stihl dealers.Stihl's number 1 ha. ROFLMAO.

 

[Lakeside53]

Stihl's number 1

Mow finally got to you