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Stihl saws have to be good....................

they must have used them on the original Star Trek because i recall Mr. Scott always saying he needed "more power"

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they must have used them on the original Star Trek because i recall Mr. Scott always saying he needed "more power"

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Ha, I was over in "Sweden" when they built that space ship, hehehe
 
I've always liked Huskys I just hope they don't go the way of homelite,mccullogh and poulan mass marketed garbage,They were all damn good saws once upon a time too

to late, already happened :hmm3grin2orange:
 
Orange can do for me what they have always done............build great saws!!!


Anyone who thinks that one is better than the other is pretty much off base IMHO!!!


Once a saw leaves a shop it is in the hands of the consumer........pro or otherwise!!!


In that case IMO is where the true durability comes into play...........How Is The Saw Maintained!!!


Give a tank like an 066 or 038 to some yutz who doesn't maintain it and he gets what he asks for!!!


Or give any saw with a dull chain (because the guy thought he had a 2 stroke ditch witch) watch him start pushing and tugging on the saw because it won't cut................down the road the AV mounts are shot and the saw lean seizes because the yutz broke said AV mounts and tore the carb boot causing a lean condition!!!

One saw better than the other???


Maybe in small areas but not when the human element in entered into the picture!!!
 
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Naaaah, that company would be called soon "the good, the bad and the ugly" and we know how that is gonna end :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

Tom, i'm pretty sure he called you ugly :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:
 
hell i know they're both great saws.

i own both and will continue to buy both because both have the best availability and dealer support.maybe some day dolmar will catch up but i doubt it.

basically i just wanted to see how easy it was to get everyone going.pretty easy! lol
 
i own both and will continue to buy both because both have the best availability and dealer support.maybe some day dolmar will catch up but i doubt it.

basically i just wanted to see how easy it was to get everyone going.pretty easy! lol

I doubt if Dolmar ever catches up around here. From what I hear they make a good saw, just don't have enough dealers to make anything happen. Hell the only dealer I know of is Cutnscott.
 
i own both and will continue to buy both because both have the best availability and dealer support.maybe some day dolmar will catch up but i doubt it.

basically i just wanted to see how easy it was to get everyone going.pretty easy! lol

I own both, AND own two Homies you can even ask me about. :rock:

Mark
 
I doubt if Dolmar ever catches up around here. From what I hear they make a good saw, just don't have enough dealers to make anything happen. Hell the only dealer I know of is Cutnscott.

American Trencher and Chain supply, In Houston,

The dont stock any chainsaw saws or parts,,, but the do have concrete saws

I orderd the air filter for my 9010 from them and they were really nice,,, and their pricing was right in line with CutinScott seems like it took a few days,, Theres one in Conroe and one in Brazoria,,, all about 100 miles apart!!!!
 
Sorry I could not respond sooner, been selling all of those STIHL saws.
WOW!!! you put me above Tom, I just dont know what to say about that, I cannot accept that praise cause after all he is the King.
As for Chows dealer. The smarter one are and remain to be the ones who have the ability to work on what they sell and not have to deal with the problems of something they did not sell. What a way to go if it is feasible for them.
To clear the record. Stihl is not dependent on chainsaws only. I will enlighten you that they now sell more lawncare product than they do saws. Wont be long before they are Number One in this category as well Peter. All Husqvarna can do is keep buying up competition trying to play catch up. Another case of follow the leader.

Just Mow, is there some kind of training to become a Stihl dealer where you:

1. Erase brain from everything not containing the word Stihl.
2. Teach the students how to sing “Stihl is number one, hallelujah!”
3. Convince the students that the MS290 is a helluva saw!”
4. Learn the students how to use internet and how to bash other brands on AS.
5. Delude the students that Husqvarna is a bad company from Sweden who’s only aim is to acquire US competitors in order to shut them down. In the meantime we delude the students that Stihl actually do their lawncare products themselves instead of selling Viking products.

????

Now who was the market leader in forestry, tree- and lawncare products once again? As long as you don't base your posts on facts but on point 1-5 above, it will be hard for us others to take anything you say for being serious.
 
Just Mow, is there some kind of training to become a Stihl dealer where you:

1. Erase brain from everything not containing the word Stihl.
2. Teach the students how to sing “Stihl is number one, hallelujah!”
3. Convince the students that the MS290 is a helluva saw!”
4. Learn the students how to use internet and how to bash other brands on AS.
5. Delude the students that Husqvarna is a bad company from Sweden who’s only aim is to acquire US competitors in order to shut them down. In the meantime we delude the students that Stihl actually do their lawncare products themselves instead of selling Viking products.

????

Now who was the market leader in forestry, tree- and lawncare products once again? As long as you don't base your posts on facts but on point 1-5 above, it will be hard for us others to take anything you say for being serious.

Have you been to school yet? I'm sure Mow will let you give him a shiny red apple:buttkick:
 
Orange can do for me what they have always done............build great saws!!!


Anyone who thinks that one is better than the other is pretty much off base IMHO!!!


Once a saw leaves a shop it is in the hands of the consumer........pro or otherwise!!!


In that case IMO is where the true durability comes into play...........How Is The Saw Maintained!!!


Give a tank like an 066 or 038 to some yutz who doesn't maintain it and he gets what he asks for!!!


Or give any saw with a dull chain (because the guy thought he had a 2 stroke ditch witch) watch him start pushing and tugging on the saw because it won't cut................down the road the AV mounts are shot and the saw lean seizes because the yutz broke said AV mounts and tore the carb boot causing a lean condition!!!

One saw better than the other???


Maybe in small areas but not when the human element in entered into the picture!!!

Excellent post Rich.
 
Just Mow, is there some kind of training to become a Stihl dealer where you:

1. Erase brain from everything not containing the word Stihl.
2. Teach the students how to sing “Stihl is number one, hallelujah!”
3. Convince the students that the MS290 is a helluva saw!”
4. Learn the students how to use internet and how to bash other brands on AS.
5. Delude the students that Husqvarna is a bad company from Sweden who’s only aim is to acquire US competitors in order to shut them down. In the meantime we delude the students that Stihl actually do their lawncare products themselves instead of selling Viking products.

????

Now who was the market leader in forestry, tree- and lawncare products once again? As long as you don't base your posts on facts but on point 1-5 above, it will be hard for us others to take anything you say for being serious.

Good luck getting Mow to answer you.

Your making him think,:crazy1:
 
Just Mow, is there some kind of training to become a Stihl dealer where you:

1. Erase brain from everything not containing the word Stihl.
2. Teach the students how to sing “Stihl is number one, hallelujah!”
3. Convince the students that the MS290 is a helluva saw!”
4. Learn the students how to use internet and how to bash other brands on AS.
5. Delude the students that Husqvarna is a bad company from Sweden who’s only aim is to acquire US competitors in order to shut them down. In the meantime we delude the students that Stihl actually do their lawncare products themselves instead of selling Viking products.

????

Now who was the market leader in forestry, tree- and lawncare products once again? As long as you don't base your posts on facts but on point 1-5 above, it will be hard for us others to take anything you say for being serious.

I never said I liked the MS290 :buttkick:
 
Greed?!?!?!? Greed?!?!?!? Bringing an affordable product to the consumer with only an occasional need, and can't justify a large expense, is greedy? Sorry, I see greed as a company who charges 10~50% more for it's saws than it's competitions equally classed saws, with it's only argument reasoning being, "We are #1 in sales!"

Stihl really does have that "status symbol" hold on the consumer. Ask anyone on the street to name a chainsaw manufacturer, and you'll likely hear "Stihl." Probably followed by "Craftsman." Why? Marketing. Just like other manufacturers, such as Harley and Ford for example, you got a grasp on the market. I don't blame Stihl for that. They're a company. That's what they are suppose to do. But it doesn't justify price. If the general public could be brought to light that Husky saws are of equal quality to Stihl, but at a better price, I think you'd see a change. But folks usually have a prejudice view, and is hard to alter. Even so, I doubt you'd ever see Husky with #1 sales. Stihl would simply lower their high profit margin to compete with them, before giving up that position. (afterall that is their key stance) Thall's recent example of telling some potential customers that Huskys are sold at Lowes doesn't help those prejudice views. Not that he lied to them, just that he convieniently failed to tell the whole truth. But he is a salesman, and he's got to put bread on the table, so I can't fault him for that. But there's two people that leave with that thought in their head, and likely would be hard to change. People tend to hang onto the first thing they heard, over something contrary.

I'm sure the argument of cost is going to fall back to the available servicing network. No doubt, this plays a HUGE part in Stihls success. Here in the States, in general, folks are lazy. They don't want to repair (heck, even PM) their own equipment. That's why there is Jiffy Lube, Geek Squad, Roto Rooter, etc. But why should such a network effect the price of the saw? It shouldn't. If I bring my saw in for work, then that's the time to be charged. Not when I'm buying it. That brings me to parts. Someone recently said that it doesn't take much parting out of a saw at retail prices to make it worthwhile. Why is it that a handful of parts sells for as much as an entire chainsaw? Sell the saw to the consumer, (for an already high price) and when they come back for parts, we'll really club them over the head. Sounds pretty greedy to me. I've read conflicting information about the costs. I've heard that there is little money to be made on parts by the dealer, that the factory charges the high fees. But I've also heard that the dealers can make a decent profit off parts. I don't know which is true, but as the consumer, I know it costs me a lot.

Back to the product itself. Anyone who says Stihl is crap, is full of it themselves. They make great products. The same can be said of Husky as well. Sure they each got their +'s and -'s, but it all washes out as equal products. I believe folks here can be "hyper-critical" of products, and seems to generate a "blinders" effect. Let me give an example. I occasionally run a little Poulan down at work. Now I know there are folks here that would bash it to no end, but it's a saw. It starts, it cuts wood, it does as advertised. Nothing fancy, no anti-vibe, chain brake, or swept induction. Just a saw. Did I need a MS 361? No. Would it have gotten the job done faster? Sure. Was I in a time trial? No. Can I justify 3X the cost for it's occasional use? No. There is a place in the market for low end saws. They work for the purpose they are meant for. I can't see how that's greedy to provide them.

Lol Rod. Your post gave me a chuckle. See, I made a post that you thought was anti-Husqvarna and you made the assumption that I'm a Stihl guy so you slammed Stihl. Fine by me. I agree with you, Stihl's are expensise! But this old fart thinks cars, houses and yes, bread is expensive. It's all too expensive for me but I always buy what I need to buy. I'm not a Stihl guy but there's a good chance I might be in the future.
My Husky dealer is no more. As I understand what is(was) happening, some dealers buy their saws from Husky USA and some get their saws somewhere else (Husky Sweden?). Husky USA charges more for their saws. So, you can buy a saw online cheaper than the local dealer can buy it for. WOW! I don't know if this is still happening but when it was it was just enough for my dealer to get out of the biz. So Husky stopped internet sales. Well sorta. Some still get to sell over the internet. It's one of those rules that select dealers don't have to follow I guess.
If we look back a few years when Electrolux owned Husky, acquisitions was the name of the game. Buy more customers! Bluebird, Jonsered, Partner, Poulan, Weedeater, McColloch just to name a few.You don't think that's greedy? But we'll see how it goes from here.

In 2006 Husqvarna AB was split from Electrolux and turned over to the shareholders by issueing shares of Husky stock. Since going public last year Husqvarna AB posted it's lowest stock price last week.
I suspect that the stockholders will be looking for some returns, so Husky will have to cut costs(or raise prices). Downsizing and off shore production will be the results. Have you ever seen this happen?

Just my opinion with the info I have of course. If you have more info, please tell.;)

As far as justifing price Rod, I have no idea what it costs Stihl to build a saw or the parts, so I can't really say they're overpriced, just that it's more than I'd like to pay. But so is a loaf of bread.;)
 
Just Mow, is there some kind of training to become a Stihl dealer where you:

1. Erase brain from everything not containing the word Stihl.
2. Teach the students how to sing “Stihl is number one, hallelujah!”
3. Convince the students that the MS290 is a helluva saw!”
4. Learn the students how to use internet and how to bash other brands on AS.
5. Delude the students that Husqvarna is a bad company from Sweden who’s only aim is to acquire US competitors in order to shut them down. In the meantime we delude the students that Stihl actually do their lawncare products themselves instead of selling Viking products.

????

Now who was the market leader in forestry, tree- and lawncare products once again? As long as you don't base your posts on facts but on point 1-5 above, it will be hard for us others to take anything you say for being serious.

My My Peter! You have a very strong opinion! Looks to me like everything you wrote about Mow is true about yourself! What pride you have in Husky! You got a Swedish flag tattooed on your posterior? :)

Fuzzle
- I don't endorse any particuliar saw brand. Mebe my next saw will be a Dolmar or a Stihl. They're good saws. Or mebe I'll ring RBW and see if he's got a spare Homie?
 
If we look back a few years when Electrolux owned Husky, acquisitions was the name of the game. Buy more customers! Bluebird, Jonsered, Partner, Poulan, Weedeater, McColloch just to name a few.You don't think that's greedy? But we'll see how it goes from here.

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize those companies were taken at gunpoint.

(please note the sarcasm)
 
My My Peter! You have a very strong opinion! Looks to me like everything you wrote about Mow is true about yourself! What pride you have in Husky! You got a Swedish flag tattooed on your posterior? :)

Fuzzle
- I don't endorse any particuliar saw brand. Mebe my next saw will be a Dolmar or a Stihl. They're good saws. Or mebe I'll ring RBW and see if he's got a spare Homie?

No it doesn't apply to myself ;) Just Mow, Thall and Co. are Stihl dealers that use this forum for their own business purposes (against better knowledge they mislead people here who seek advice on chainsaws, to buy saws of their own brand). I'm neither a Husky, nor a Stihl dealer.
I have two chainsaws of each brand so I'm not that biased. As I have said many times before I think Stihl has many good saws. The only Stihl I have bashed is the 290, but I'm not only one doing that.. I would bash the 455 Rancher also.
 

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