What Is The Definition Of A "PRO" Saw??

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Eastexan

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I've been wondering for some time what exactly determines a "Pro" saw. I hear the words "Pro Saw" and "Homeowner Saw" being used here a lot, and would like to know just what exactly determines a "Pro Saw"? :dizzy:

I read a thread the other day that the modern professionally designed engine is vertically split and not the "clamshell" design, even though the clamshell isn't a bad design and was used in some older pro saws. So I assume this is a "has to have" for a pro saw.

Also, I heard one time that magnesium crankcases also determines a pro saw.
But in 1993, I bought an Husky 51 that the dealer told me it wasn't a pro saw but did have a magnesium crankcase and chromed cylinder. This was before Husky's saw line-up was divided up into 3 segments, like they & Stihl are now.

Sears has a "Craftsman Professonal" chainsaw listed on their website, but in reading their description, the only thing that stands out is the "reduced vibration" and "chromed cylinder". But maybe they're not naming everything. :confused:

I've seen some manufacturers claim that some of their lower priced saws also have "Pro" features, but doesn't say what exactly they are.

I remember reading several years ago where a chainsaw design tech or engineer claimed that there was a durability standard listed for all chain saws, and that they are rated from 50 to 300 hours.
The meaning was that they were rated to last at least the number of hours stated, before having to be overhauled or scrapped.
The 50 hours was occasional/homeowner use, and I believe the middlegrade/landowner was 150 hours, and the pro saws was the highest at 300 hours.

I believe that he said every chain saw sold has to have a tag showing this. But I bought a new saw last year that didn't have one on it, so I don't know if all this is true or not.

So, what I'm wondering is if there is some official definition somewhere explaning all the criteria that have to be met or features that have to be on a saw before it can be called a Pro saw? :help:

:cheers:
 
IMHO, a "Pro" saw should be of the verticaly split mag case, nikasil lined cylinder, adjustable oiler and a fully adjustable carb and run a "real" 3/8" chain. If I left something out someone will be behind me shortly...
 
excellent post/thread. I doubt there is a definative answer for your question. IMHO, I would say a Pro grade saw is determined first and foremost by its construction. A magnesium vertically split case is the most important feature. This style of construction facilitates ease of assembly/disassembly. Secondly is power to weight ratio (also a result of vertically split case). thirdly and maybe most importantly is AV. You can not run a home owner grade saw for more than a 1/2 hour without your hands cramping up. You can run a pro grade saw all day long before it becomes an issue.
 
With regard to the hours 50 --300, that may have to do more with emissions compliance than any thing else. REJ2

It's emissions and an echo thing. I have homeowner saws that seen 50hrs their first year. My definition of a pro saw is seeing a guy make money with it. Back in the day they were all pro saws. I suppose the engines are a little better put together but i've had el-cheapos last longer than so callled pro saws. To much emphasis is put on pro saws around here imo.
 
Easy answer!

pro saw:
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farmer saw:
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homeowner saw:
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:cheers:

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IMHO, the MS660 is a fantastic example of a pro saw: proven, well built, metal crankcase, internal clutch, threaded fill caps, non strato design, good power to weight ratio, and easy to set up and work on.
 
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IMHO, a "Pro" saw should be of the verticaly split mag case, nikasil lined cylinder, adjustable oiler and a fully adjustable carb and run a "real" 3/8" chain. If I left something out someone will be behind me shortly...

Closed port rather than open port on a pro saw but pretty much agree 100%......clam shell crank cases - got one on my 335XPT - but that is a top handle where weight and size is critical.
Needle bearing cranks rather than roller bearings - most pro saws have roller bearings.

Spud
 
my definition would be an industrial class saw that can withstand thousands and thousands of hours cutting saw logs, bucking short logs and pulpwood on a logging job. somewhere in the likes of 650+ chords a year--

now all you pros that got a saw that will cut 10 ricks a year--go have at it!:chainsaw:
 
I always thought it was STIHL but some will disagree lol


+1

What else is there?





Well, just maybe a 346xpne.................
 
any saw that has been modified could also be considered a pro saw around here.....

better get my waders......:dizzy:
 
Simple. A pro saw is a saw that is marketed primarily to professional users. Has nothing to do with the saw itself.
 
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A manufactures designation for a particular unit. Period. An example of a clamshell "pro" series saw would be the 192T.

Around here, we might have our own thoughts on what constitutes a pro series, but in reality, the manufactures have the finial say :)
 
To me the term "Pro saw" denotes a saw that by design, is stronger and of higher quality components. A saw that is made up of "sub groups" of parts that can easily be replaced when worn out or broken to return the unit to service.
That, versus the saw built as a unit, designed to be used for a particular service life, or destroyed, and replaced as an entire unit instead replacing a component.

In summary a "rebuildable" unit versus a "throwaway" unit.


Mike
 
To me the term "Pro saw" denotes a saw that by design, is stronger and of higher quality components. A saw that is made up of "sub groups" of parts that can easily be replaced when worn out or broken to return the unit to service.
That, versus the saw built as a unit, designed to be used for a particular service life, or destroyed, and replaced as an entire unit instead replacing a component.

In summary a "rebuildable" unit versus a "throwaway" unit.


Mike

I'd wager that most high saw usage professionals do not rebuild their saws, but instead buy new ones. The saw is, after all, one of the cheapest pieces of power equipment, but can hold up the job as much as anything.
 
A manufactures designation for a particular unit. Period. An example of a clamshell "pro" series saw would be the 192T.

Around here, we might have our own thoughts on what constitutes a pro series, but in reality, the manufactures have the finial say :)


You may be right as to the manufacturers having the final say, at least where the MS 192T is concerned.

The 192t is listed by Stihl as a Pro saw, whereas the rear-handled version is listed as an occasional use saw. :dizzy:
 

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