What Stihl for a 28 inch bar?

[OM617YOTA]

@Bludenz Too lean can burn down the whole saw. Make sure you pull the muffler and look at the p&c on that 461. If they won't let you, walk away.

 

[muddy42]

28 inch bar buried fully in hard wood for long periods. For me thats >90 cc territory. Yes you can make smaller saws work a 28 inch bar occasionally but they wont like it.

 

[MustangMike]

If they are properly ported a 77cc saw will pull full comp chain quite well in hardwood.

I have both a ported 460 and a ported 044/046 that do it well.

My ported 066 + 660s pull well with 3' bars.

 

[MustangMike]

There can be many reasons for excessive heat including running too lean and a clogged flywheel (the fins on the flywheel act like a fan to cool the cylinder). If they are not free of debris, they will not work well.

Sounds like that 461 got very hot. Make sure the cylinder is not scored and none of the rubber is melted.

Also, if you are planning on running 28" full comp in Ozzie Hardwood, I would want it to be ported.

 

[Bludenz]

@Bludenz Too lean can burn down the whole saw. Make sure you pull the muffler and look at the p&c on that 461. If they won't let you, walk away.

I can only say good things about David Major, very honest person and sends whatever pictures I ask for Still chatting with him to work something out.

 

[singinwoodwackr]

Hello,

Trying to figure out what saw I want to get.

1) Would run a 28 inch bar and chain full time - hard wood, bar would be buried. (Wood is gum, lots of different species, and Peppermint tree, aka Agonis Flexuosa)
2) budget is roughly 1000aud, or approx 700usd
3) Preferably Stihl, that is what I have parts/tools for, also most dealers in my area only sell Stihl parts...
4) I don't mind if it is either m-tronic, or manual carb.
5) I'd rather not port saws, I'd like to keep mine OEM

I've read good things about the 461, so that's what I've been looking for. I've been looking for quite a while and these are rather rare, or very expensive here in Aus. I've also read good things about the 044, however I've heard some people say that a 24 inch bar is it's sweet spot, can anyone confirm? Other than that, I've looked at the 661c-m, which comes up occasionally for okay prices. I've also heard not so good things about the 441, apparently, "every company has a lemon, and the 441 falls into that catagory", again, can anyone confirm/deny thing?

I'd love a project 461, etc... however those just don't ever come up. A project saw for sale in Australia is extremely rare... I'm hoping that David Major on this forum can find a project 461 for me to purchase, his last one was already sold when I inquired about it

So, what saw do you recommend for me to purchase?

Thanks in advance!

090

 

[Bludenz]

090

Too old for my taste... Don't really like the looks of it.

I know it would get the job done, but I also would assume that there are a lack of parts available for it due to its age... Additionally, the few times one of those pops up here, they are priced well over 1400usd (converted). Doesn't fit in my budget either...

 

[Bludenz]

Purchased a stock, all OEM excellent condition Stihl MS461 from David Major. Very good seller and no complaints at all. Will update this thread when the package arrives.

Thanks everyone for your advice!