When to retire climbing line?

[jkrueger]

I did a search on this and did not find enough cohesive data. If I'm wronge please let me know.

When I was trained with Penn-Del ISA chater climbing school. It was said if you have 2-3? nicks in the same thread the line was disqualified.

OK, different rope streangths are not included here. Look at the Samson ArborMaster rated at 8,100 lbs. vs Yellow Jacket rated at 6,200 lbs.

I'm sure many here are like me, hey, whats a couple of nicks 20 to 30' apart I'm past that part in the climb, so what. And .... Or the rope manufacturer says, ....

The question really is what is definitive in your experiences, regarding line retirement?

Thanks,
Jack

 

[MasterBlaster]

I keep mine a long time, up to two years or so if I'm lucky. I don't worry about little nicks so much, but when I see the core it gets downgraded.

 

[TheTreeSpyder]

Samson Free Downloads leads off with a very nice Arborist Catalog; that is all a light, good read i think; but the wear issues start being discussed on page 23 and continue on thru page 26 with pictures and wear percentage recomendations.

Prolly some if not the best done specifically pictured to public for arbo lines.

 

[Dadatwins]

Would have to depends on what nicks it. A few pulled threads not that big a deal but anything that gets past outer layers time to downgrade to lowering line or pull - line. Guess it really depends on what climber feels comfortable with. I remember when old safty blue three strand came out we were told those couple of blue strands could hold a climber but never saw anyone use it to that point.

 

[jkrueger]

The Samson free download was informative. I would like a visual. More real data in a visual, the textural stuff is, maybe scientific, and does not hold the complexity of language that a visual does. This might be just me and it could be of value to others.

Anyone be ablle to supply pics of line at retirement?

This would be very good for general ID of issue.

Thanks,
Jack

 

[MasterBlaster]

I can't remember the rules for manilla. It was pretty much cut, or not cut. Then you got another one for $20.

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

If you look at the rope and have any doubt, downgrade it, period.

I won't climb on a rope with a strand that is completely broke, even a Fly (kernmantle rope). With climbing ropes at around a hundred bucks, just buy a new one.
Any climber will tell you the joy of a new rope.

 

[jkrueger]

Originally posted by MasterBlaster
I can't remember the rules for manilla. It was pretty much cut, or not cut. Then you got another one for $20.

Ya know, MB, I probably wouldn't be asking all this except for you vocal advocation of the Zubat, Nai Kung, and my years of martial arts..., and now extended to the trees.

I've a powerful imagination, ..., kiah, oops, that was my climbing line. Oh, darn, another nick.

Jack

 

[MasterBlaster]

Ya gotta guard your midline!

This is a friend of mine knocking an opponet out at a Kung Fu meet. He's a climber, also.

 

[jkrueger]

Re: Ya gotta guard your midline!

Originally posted by MasterBlaster
This is a friend of mine knocking an opponet out at a Kung Fu meet. He's a climber, also.

I just did! Jack

 

[Gord]

a damaged line used for lowering creates more potential for injury than if it's used for climbing IMO. we've all been over the issue of how much our climbing lines are loaded...not very often that they're loaded to anything near what a rigging line is subjected to daily.

 

[Husky372]

hey mb heres a pic of my youngest at her first real tournement doing her karta

 

[jkrueger]

Originally posted by Gord
a damaged line used for lowering creates more potential for injury than if it's used for climbing IMO. we've all been over the issue of how much our climbing lines are loaded...not very often that they're loaded to anything near what a rigging line is subjected to daily.

Accepted, and in the service of climbing, Im not a total idiot and maybe it's just a fear at greater heights and swinging out to get an off branch or other of mutiple leader. Then I question these things in a flash. And I know it is something to consider each day in inspection of gear. Am I nuts?

Hmmmm,
Jack

 

[MasterBlaster]

Originally posted by Husky372
hey mb heres a pic of my youngest at her first real tournement doing her karta

Kata? Sweet! Start em young, let em learn!


Forgive his mullet...

 

[Husky372]

yeh mb you gotta forgive my spelling skills never was very good at it. tommoro both girls are going to karate camp for the week both green belt will be getting there first red tip end of july.

 

[jkrueger]

Thanks Rocky, wish I had the pic of your retired line. I guess pushing a line to it's max is stupid and thought it might be good to get an over all view of wht that is. Determinable wear, as mentioned by rope manufactures is a vague line at times.
Jack

 

[MasterBlaster]

Yo Husky show Lily this:

http://cultofthewolf.org/xiao.html

 

[SilverBlue]

Funny you mentioning cameras and phones Brian, I bought a HP 735 last year and got a bonus $50.00 the store had a GE phone reg 129.00 on sale for $56.00. The camera gave out two weeks ago and HP gave me the choice of full refund, brand new replacement or upgrade, they even threw in $100.00 extra. Anyways I got this new HP R707 and it rocks! So get a camera! Oh yeah… the boss gets a new rope whenever a climber kills his own that way I’m always on a fresh rope here’s today’s dinner.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Are you the one in the middle, Rob?

 

[SilverBlue]

Here's one of the band's here Butch, are these resizing ok? this little camera is set a 5.1 MP.