sunfish
Fish Head
It took me a few years to find one. It's a cuttin SOB for sure, but I like a ported 357 mo better!
Which 60cc saw
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I got mine new in the box 340$, although the warranty does not apply because of eBay, I don't care because I might do a muffler mod and I work on my own stuff. I tried it out today on a 18" piece of ash log and I could lean on it pretty damn hard, it's got nice torque and balls. For 250$+ less than a husky 555 it's a damn good deal. I demoed a 555 and from what I remember it definitely was not as torquey as the 590.
7sleeper
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Sorry but this is not correct. The Oleo Mac 962 (which is by the way a 61.5cc saw) weighs less than the 562 but more than the 560. I know old school etc. but it is still manufactured and sold new today.
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So would an 036 do? After the mods? I know other builders loved them. It handles WAY better than a big boxy 362 box of manure does.........
Do you consider a 361 that much better than a 036? I take that 036 into the woods, then a 038M, then my 066 0r 056M.
I don't think I've ever ported a 036/360.
Did you ever go check over the border on the 150
Big Block
WFO or I don't go
I see you joined the club. Kinda surprised. You will be glad you did.
I was suprised by the echo, for the money it's damn good deal
CoreyB
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For people to dismiss these. Echo's would be silliness. One reason people complain about weight is just because their wallet still has some weight to it after you buy this saw. So saw weight plus all that saved cash weight really adds up and boggs some guy's down.
windthrown
361 Junkie
Only real 'problem' with the stock 036 is the clutch drum/bearing that were recalled/upgraded to the beefier 360 kit. Without the upgreade they are prone to grenade. The smaller clutch drum/bearing from the 036 is an upgrade for the 290/310/390 saws though, and I have swapped them over to get rim drives on those saws.
As for the 361 vs. the 036/360? Depends on what you define as better. 036 has more stock torque and a tad more power (rated and real), is far easier and faster to tune, and the early model did not need any mods because the stock muffler was wide open. The vibration is considerably higher on the 036/360 with he rubber AV mounts than the spring mounted 361. The 361 revs higher and has less torque to get the similar power. Open the muffler on the 361 (shark gill or StihlBilly mod) and you re-gain the 'lost' EPA power. The 036 has screw-in oil and gas caps which I prefer over flippy caps. The 361 has quad ports, which is a definite improvement. The 361 is more prone to flooding if you do not know how to start them. I never use the decomp starting a cold 361. The PRO 036 has a decomp, the non-PRO does not (the only real difference between them). The oil pumps have the exact same outputs on the stock 036/360/361/362 saws. The 361/2 saws can be upgraded with the 460 and 460R oil pumps to get higher outputs, but the 036/360 pumps cannot. The owners manuals on the 036/360 say that a 20 inch bar is the limit, but the same output 361/2 saw manuals say a 25 inch bar is the limit. I have run a 25 on the 036 and the 361 with no problem. They weigh about the same and they are both slim model saws.
So its torque vs RPM, higher vibe rubber vs low vibe springs, clutch bearing mod vs. muffler mod, screw-in caps vs flippy caps. Having owned and run both, I would say that they are a dead heat overall. I prefer lower vibe saws and tend toward higher revving ones. I also prefer screw-in caps and easy to start and tune saws though.
You guys are making me want another MS361!
I know where there's a mint 361 ported by some engineer dude
Didn't you take any when you ported it?
It's going to have to wait until Tuesday because my wife has the iPhone
Idahonative
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The weights are close but not the same. As you know, the thing that makes the 590/600/620 so interesting (besides price) is how they respond to a simple (15 min.) MM and tune. For guys willing to do such a mod with the Echo, you will have a saw that cuts like a 70cc but weighs significantly less (ready to cut). IMO, all three saws below would have similar cutting performance:
Echo 600p____PHO: 13 lb - 7 oz.____Fuel: 21.8 oz.____Oil: 10.1 oz.____TTL Weight: 15.43 lbs.____Price: $450 (Ebay)
Husky 372xp__PHO: 14 lb - 3.5 oz.___Fuel: 26.04 oz.___Oil: 13.53 oz.___TTL Weight: 16.69 lbs.____Price: $879.95
Stihl ms441___PHO: 15 lb - 1 oz.____Fuel: 24.5 oz.____Oil: 12.2 oz.____TTL Weight: 17.36 lbs.____Price: $950
Now if you port the 600p for $300 + $450 = $750: You will have a saw that costs much less and will out cut the other two any day of the week. Yes, it's not fair to compare a ported saw to a stock or MM'd saw. My point is, for $750, you will have a saw that will bury the other two. The fact that Echo is a quality built, simple, and reliable machine just adds to the value.
o8f150
Tree Freak
go to walmart and get the new wild thing that they just come out with,,, it is 63cc's,,, i hear it is a screamer and runs like a 70cc
Cherry 361s eh ?
o8f150
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This place wreaks of saw snobs.
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