Which saw has felled the most timber of all time???

[ciscoguy01]

Yuppers

These were the saws that Greased the timber of the West Coast. The 125 Macs, 2100 Homelites, 090's, 075, 076's, 2100 Huskys....IMO!

Not alot of people know this but 100 yrs ago the adirondacks produced tons and tons of timber. Trees as big as anything out in the PNW. The Adirondacks were logged clean to build NYC, that rathole, lmao... There's an old documentary out there called the Lumberjack Sky Pilot that shows old films and pics of back in the early 1900's in the adirondacks with 15 foot diameter logs all over the place. That's the reason west coast logs are so much bigger now than here. I think I've got a copy and if anyone is interested I'll be glad to ship it around for everyone to view long as next persons will ship it along so others can see it... opcorn:

 

[Grande Dog]

If you're talking board feet from vertical to horizontal, I'm with Dennis and GAS on this one, the big saws definitely will take the nod.

 

[Eccentric]

I'm no logger or historian, but here' another vote for the BIG Homelites and Macs.

After the crosscut saws left the scene, the BIG belt and gear drive Homelites and Macs of the '50s and '60s put down untold tons of big wood on the west coast. The torch was then passed in the late '60s to the next generation of big inch Homies such as the 1000/1100G/1050/1130G, 2100/3100G, and later the 650 and 750, plus of course the previously mentioned 4.9-5.3 inch Macs such as the 1-4X/1-5X/250/250Super family, and the BIG Macs such as the 125s, 797s, etc.

From what I've been told the big Stihls and Huskies didn't get a foothold here until the mid-late '70s with the Stihl 70/90 family and later the 050/051/075/076, 041, 045/056, and 2100 Husky saws. Change was already in the wind for the logging industry by that point (spotted owl omlette with treehugger stew anyone???) :chainsawguy:

 

[Wood Hick]

I would have to split the vote East and West. Back in the day the 041 was king in the East, and then the 044 took the torch. I had an uncle and cousin sawing in Washington at the same time, and they had 056's, several of them.
If I remember correctly, the big government jobs provided saws to the jobs, and they were all 044's. Food for thought: If you think your tired after a day in the woods today, just imagine running a crosscut all day. Several years ago I picked up a five footer for a decoration piece. One night in basement downing a few brews, I get the bright idea to have it sharpened and try it out. Myself and a few co-workers set up some 30" Poplar and have at it. Let me tell you boys, its no fun! Your arms feel like 7 foot rubberbands after about 20 minutes! Bless those tough buggers that came before us!

 

[Poley4]

Cross-Cut. Chainsaws have only been around for 60 years or so.............

That would be my guess.

 

[beelsr]

Not alot of people know this but 100 yrs ago the adirondacks produced tons and tons of timber. Trees as big as anything out in the PNW. The Adirondacks were logged clean to build NYC, that rathole, lmao... There's an old documentary out there called the Lumberjack Sky Pilot that shows old films and pics of back in the early 1900's in the adirondacks with 15 foot diameter logs all over the place. That's the reason west coast logs are so much bigger now than here. I think I've got a copy and if anyone is interested I'll be glad to ship it around for everyone to view long as next persons will ship it along so others can see it... opcorn:

I'd LOVE to see that. Start a new thread....

 

[sILlogger]

There are plenty left around here, but mostly on Forest Service ground - which is pretty much no longer logged. A few on private - we had a couple last year on Sierra Pacific ground.
Many over on the coast - redwoods or course.

could you put a 20000 bft tree into perspective for me, diamater, height, trying to fathom what one would look like, whats the biggest you have cut?

 

[Tree Sling'r]

My example tree will be a yellow pine - Stump diameter, 6 feet, tree height close to 200 ft. The biggest tree I have cut was 17,900 BF - it was a Sugar Pine up Gilman Rd. North of Redding in 1997.
Total BF of expample tree is: 19,940BF - This the decimal C scaling system, which makes up for lost taper.

L x D = BF
16 67 3390
16 64 3090
16 62 2890
16 59 2610
16 55 2270
16 49 1800
32 37 2150
32 29 1320
20 19 300
14 15 120

After going back on my thoughts about the saws, I do have to agree with some of the other statements - I do see a lot of Mac's and Homelites in old timers barns and shops. They had been working much longer than the 044's I suspected at first thought.

 

[sILlogger]

My example tree will be a yellow pine - Stump diameter, 6 feet, tree height close to 200 ft. The biggest tree I have cut was 17,900 BF - it was a Sugar Pine up Gilman Rd. North of Redding in 1997.
Total BF of expample tree is: 19,940BF

L x D = BF
16 67 3390
16 64 3090
16 62 2890
16 59 2610
16 55 2270
16 49 1800
32 37 2150
32 29 1320
20 19 300
14 15 120

the height it were u get it, ive cut trees around here that were 5 1/2' on the bottom but they may have only made a log that was 40 ft long..and may have only had 3000bft in the hole tree. do you ever cut limb logs? or do the trees not have substantial enough limbs to make logs? what does an average tree have in it? u cut timber every day? i'd love to get out there and do some cutting on that type of timber

 

[Tree Sling'r]

the height it were u get it, ive cut trees around here that were 5 1/2' on the bottom but they may have only made a log that was 40 ft long..and may have only had 3000bft in the hole tree. do you ever cut limb logs? or do the trees not have substantial enough limbs to make logs? what does an average tree have in it? u cut timber every day? i'd love to get out there and do some cutting on that type of timber

No limb logs here - anything of the exampled size will be growing on the shady side of the hill or near a drainage - would be fairly slick, limb wise for about the first 100 ft.
Can't really answer my average tree, it seems to change from unit to unit and day to day.
For example today I cut 74 trees (full manufacture) for 21,380 bf in a 6 hour day. Almost a 300 BF tree average.
I get paid weight, just wanted to scale today since I started a new unit and wanted to know what I was cutting - the wood is heavy, so it should go out a liitle over 4000 BF per load, so I am hoping I cut 5 loads, being 2 loads over our bid, meaning I hopefully will make good money on this unit.

 

[sILlogger]

No limb logs here - anything of the exampled size will be growing on the shady side of the hill or near a drainage - would be fairly slick, limb wise for about the first 100 ft.
Can't really answer my average tree, it seems to change from unit to unit and day to day.
For example today I cut 74 trees (full manufacture) for 21,380 bf in a 6 hour day. Almost a 300 BF tree average.
I get paid weight, just wanted to scale today since I started a new unit and wanted to know what I was cutting - the wood is heavy, so it should go out a liitle over 4000 BF per load, so I am hoping I cut 5 loads, being 2 loads over our bid, meaning I hopefully will make good money on this unit.

is the ground pretty steep where u were at? how big is the patch where u were cutting? how do u know what the weight is? get a weigh sheet from the trucks? is that a clearcut?

 

[Tree Sling'r]

is the ground pretty steep where u were at? how big is the patch where u were cutting? how do u know what the weight is? get a weigh sheet from the trucks? is that a clearcut?

The ground was fairly flat, yes, it is a clearcut - not very thick, but able to work the trees so that I limit walking to cut the next one.
You get used to what is heavy and not - it is obvious, the moisture on the stump, the limb weight and moisture under the cambian (sp) layer. At the end of each pay half though the logger sends our book keeper a check with load counts and weights of each, since we get paid by the ton our price per is calculated and multiplied by the loads, then split up between us who are splitting by the man day, therefore giving us our average day pay.
Confused yet?

 

[sILlogger]

The ground was fairly flat, yes, it is a clearcut - not very thick, but able to work the trees so that I limit walking to cut the next one.
You get used to what is heavy and not - it is obvious, the moisture on the stump, the limb weight and moisture under the cambian (sp) layer. At the end of each pay half though the logger sends our book keeper a check with load counts and weights of each, since we get paid by the ton our price per is calculated and multiplied by the loads, then split up between us who are splitting by the man day, therefore giving us our average day pay.
Confused yet?

yep, too much halving and splitting for me...are u self employed or work for a company? i suppose young, gung-ho eastener with a half wrap prolly isn't very welcome out there, are they???

 

[Tree Sling'r]

yep, too much halving and splitting for me...are u self employed or work for a company? i suppose young, gung-ho eastener with a half wrap prolly isn't very welcome out there, are they???

Self employed - sub contractor.
Anyone who works hard is welcome - the other stuff is adaptable. Different methods call for different tools - thats all.
Good Night, Sling'r.

 

[smokechase II]

044/440 and US Timber Harvest

You can do anything with stats.
Understood.
These stats do not distinguish between harvesting methods.

When, in the south, did harvesters take over?

This is just a USA perspective. Also, it is by region and yearly totals are not provided. Although the time frame is pretty good for this thread.

 

[sILlogger]

that is definitely some interesting information....