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Thanks for all of you that commented on our Ratdump Dump Truck. I dont ever plan on selling the truck and i hope to hand it down to my kids when i am old and ready. We use the truck around our property and use it when ever we can. Thank You Thank You Thank you.
 
Thanks for all of you that commented on our Ratdump Dump Truck. I dont ever plan on selling the truck and i hope to hand it down to my kids when i am old and ready. We use the truck around our property and use it when ever we can. Thank You Thank You Thank you.
I wouldn't call it a rat truck, More like a classic. really a nice old truck, Don't blame ya for not ever selling it.
 
I wouldn't really call this loaded, but here is a pic taken about fifteen minutes ago after coming out of the woods! My teenage son wasn't really in the mood to spend all day in the woods so we compromised with a small load!

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Haven't decided what i'm gonna do with this one yet? Perhaps i might put the bed in it during the dry season! Dually's just don't do very well in the mud even though this one is 4x4 or 6x6 however ya look at it?

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Haven't decided what i'm gonna do with this one yet? Perhaps i might put the bed in it during the dry season! Dually's just don't do very well in the mud even though this one is 4x4 or 6x6 however ya look at it?

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That would be great for working along fields and such during the winter. Dually's are just too heavy for real off-road use. Is it a diesel (I don't see the red badge on the door)? If it was, that thing would be really heavy when loaded.
 
No it's a V-10 and weight is not the problem with a diesel or dually! That ford is heavier than the Dodge And a Cummins is only couple hundred pounds heavier than a Gasser! I do appreciate the compliment on the old Ford though! A fellar could put more aggressive tires on the Dodge and greatly improve the capabilities, but for deep sloppy mud you'll clog up the rear duals no matter what kinda tires ya run!
 
Ole Glory

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Custom paint done after 9-11
Time for some TLC, new exhaust and clutch. 1800 bucks and in our family for 9 years now. If it holds together I've considered putting in a locking diff in the rear end!!! No point in just wearing out one of those knobby tires.
 
No it's a V-10 and weight is not the problem with a diesel or dually! That ford is heavier than the Dodge And a Cummins is only couple hundred pounds heavier than a Gasser! I do appreciate the compliment on the old Ford though! A fellar could put more aggressive tires on the Dodge and greatly improve the capabilities, but for deep sloppy mud you'll clog up the rear duals no matter what kinda tires ya run!

just look at my avatar.......6 265's mud-treran's and it will go any where loaded or not.....have 2" steel spacers on the duallys....just put some meats on it and it will go!!!



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No it's a V-10 and weight is not the problem with a diesel or dually! That ford is heavier than the Dodge And a Cummins is only couple hundred pounds heavier than a Gasser! I do appreciate the compliment on the old Ford though! A fellar could put more aggressive tires on the Dodge and greatly improve the capabilities, but for deep sloppy mud you'll clog up the rear duals no matter what kinda tires ya run!

FYI,the average gas v8 in a pickup is 500-550 lbs dressed. A cummins 5.9 weighs 1050lbs dressed.That is about double the weight,the difference is huge. Even a 4cyl 3.9 cummins,the 4 cyl version of the dodge engine is 675-700lbs dressed...
 
FYI,the average gas v8 in a pickup is 500-550 lbs dressed. A cummins 5.9 weighs 1050lbs dressed.That is about double the weight,the difference is huge. Even a 4cyl 3.9 cummins,the 4 cyl version of the dodge engine is 675-700lbs dressed...


For your information...the shipping weight of a dry 7.4 long block 454 chevy is 800 lbs. This does "NOT" include exhaust maniflods, intake, carb/injection, starter, alternator, etc.

While dry weight for the 5.9 Cummins "including" accessories is 1144 lbs.

I would be willing to bet there isn't a hundred lbs. diff. between the two in ready to run form!

This is way off topic and i really don't feel like arguing with the un-informed!
Even if it was 3-500 lbs. heavier (which it's not) that is nothing more than a couple rounds of wood. Hell, i weigh almost 300lb. ---- is that gonna make the diffirence rather or not my truck will go through the mud? Next time i get ready to hit a mud hole...i'll ask my passengers to get out because they will be enough extra weight that i just don't think it'll make it!

Why don't you look up actual weight and figures before spouting off about somethin' that's not even related to the topic?
 
just look at my avatar.......6 265's mud-treran's and it will go any where loaded or not.....have 2" steel spacers on the duallys....just put some meats on it and it will go!!!



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Look like Dayton Timberline M/T's .... Ive ran through about twenty sets of those in the last few years! About a year ago I switched to Mud Dawg's by Summit! They are more aggressive, alot more quiet, and seem to last a little longer!
 
For your information...the shipping weight of a dry 7.4 long block 454 chevy is 800 lbs. This does "NOT" include exhaust maniflods, intake, carb/injection, starter, alternator, etc.

While dry weight for the 5.9 Cummins "including" accessories is 1144 lbs.

I would be willing to bet there isn't a hundred lbs. diff. between the two in ready to run form!

This is way off topic and i really don't feel like arguing with the un-informed!
Why don't you look up actual weight and figures before spouting off about somethin' that's not even related to the topic?

Thanks for the insult,being a former mopar tech,as well as a diesel trans builder,and gearhead,it doesnt bother me one bit. As for being uninformed,my weights are right no the money.I was reffering to the average V8,not a 454,which hasnt been made in 10 years.The average truck V8 is around 6 liters max.

Bore and Stroke
5.9 liters [360 C.I.D] Engines....................102 mm [4.02 in] X 120 mm [4.72 in]
6.7 liters [409 C.I.D] Engines....................107 mm [4.21 in] X 124 mm [4.88 in]

Displacement (six-cylinder engine)....................5.9 liters [360 C.I.D] and 6.7 liters [409 C.I.D]

Firing Order (six-cylinder engine)....................1-5-3-6-2-4

Approximate Engine Weight (with standard accessories): Without EGR

Dry Weight for 5.9 Liters [360 C.I.D.]....................470 kg [1036 lb]
Dry Weight for 6.7 Liters [409 C.I.D.]....................475 kg [1047 lb]
 
Thanks for the insult,being a former mopar tech,as well as a diesel trans builder,and gearhead,it doesnt bother me one bit. As for being uninformed,my weights are right no the money.I was reffering to the average V8,not a 454,which hasnt been made in 10 years.The average truck V8 is around 6 liters max.

Bore and Stroke
5.9 liters [360 C.I.D] Engines....................102 mm [4.02 in] X 120 mm [4.72 in]
6.7 liters [409 C.I.D] Engines....................107 mm [4.21 in] X 124 mm [4.88 in]

Displacement (six-cylinder engine)....................5.9 liters [360 C.I.D] and 6.7 liters [409 C.I.D]

Firing Order (six-cylinder engine)....................1-5-3-6-2-4

Approximate Engine Weight (with standard accessories): Without EGR

Dry Weight for 5.9 Liters [360 C.I.D.]....................470 kg [1036 lb]
Dry Weight for 6.7 Liters [409 C.I.D.]....................475 kg [1047 lb]


Yeah well i don't consider anything less than a fat block a truck engine! If you wanna include 6.0 and under in your average truck engine, go ahead! The weight you listed for the Cummins is actually less than what I posted! Even if you compare a Cummins to a small block, the diffirence would still be less than 350 lbs. If you wanna take your lack of knowledge and make some point that 350 lbs. diff. would some way add valuable information to this thread, go right ahead!

I have met alot of "techs" in my life, most of them work at Autozone! Your argument is "mute" and any weight difference, even if it's the 500 lb. plus you are suggesting, would be negligible at best!

Just so I know, since your an expert tech, what's the percentage of today's trucks that are one ton and have 6.0 or less engine?

Shove your tech expertise on someone who will buy it! I am informed, I have the facts and I deal with these trucks every day!

I have studied, read, researched, drove, and owned most every heavy duty truck ever made! You might call it a passion of mine? Therefore, when you wanna argue about something you obviously know nothing about, it bothers me!
 
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