Would you climb this?

[TreeAce]

and who would that be?opcorn:

Thats quite a statement to make about someone without even knowing them

That comment has nothing to do with you...just an FYI. As far as prentice goes, my comment is based on past comments and threads posted by him. Although, I am sure if I looked enough I could prolly find a post by him that doesnt have atleast a negative twist to it. There must be one out there.

 

[ShermanC]

Yes sir I agree!

I think most of us understand why you started this thread, and appreciate you asking our opinions. (not advise) we realize that you are perfectly capable of doing the job properly. It never hurts to ask for a second opinion, and thats how I took it..

Would that tree hold you without breaking? Hell yeah.. of course it will.. Would I climb it? No, Not unless work was really slow, & I needed the money REALLY bad..

TreeAce deserves a pat on the back ataboy for taking time to do this thread. IMO those who replied with sarcasm in a smart aleck way have not yet come close enough to the grim reaper. I did in 1999 falling 20' and landing on my right hip, broke the hip, laid in traction three days because area hospitals were full of airline passengers. A commercial airliner crashed while landing, the day before I fell. My tree did not fail, but I did in my setup of the work. Of those who have learned from this thread they are likely appreciative for it. Those who flamed the thread...good luck and be careful out there. The grim reaper lies silently in waiting!

 

[Bigus Termitius]

The wisdom to walk away leaves you to climb another day.

I get spiderlifts all the time for $200, bill for 250. That hasn't broken a deal yet. In fact, most folks gripe about a big heavy truck, and I share what I will use and it often gives me an edge. I would think the time saved alone would almost offset the rental somewhat. Some even do not want me climbing it because of their perceptions, and they are relieved when I mention the lift as an option.

Don't regret starting this thread.....if nothing else maybe someone will learn something from it someday.

 

[prentice110]

Ya, it's just a tree. Really not that big a deal at all. I must say I really do regret starting this thread. Are u impling that by me saying I am busy is somehow the same as saying I am scared? All I am saying is that I havent heard back and I dont care if I do. I am a big boy and can handle it just fine. If I do go take another look at it I doubt I will post pics. Just to many F heads with smart a.ss know it all comments. Or at least one and thats to many for me....

Yo chill the ---- out! Im not accusing anyone of being scared. If anything your smart for not wanting it. My point is that if your busy, why even waste your time worrying about this one . Pay attention. And I hope your kid feels better.

 

[prentice110]

That comment has nothing to do with you...just an FYI. As far as prentice goes, my comment is based on past comments and threads posted by him. Although, I am sure if I looked enough I could prolly find a post by him that doesnt have atleast a negative twist to it. There must be one out there.

Doubt it. LOL !!! Dont mind me Im bi-polar and want to napalm the world. BTW, I havent had a drink since January. (edited part) AND IM REALLY BORED!!!!

 

[TreeAce]

Doubt it. LOL !!! Dont mind me Im bi-polar and want to napalm the world. BTW, I havent had a drink since January. (edited part) AND IM REALLY BORED!!!!

Alright....I am sorry. And I am glad to hear u haven't been drinking. My comment was a low blow and I do apoligize. I just took what u said wrong...I been doin that alot lately... I havn't had a drink in awhile myself and would suggest you keep it up. It has been NOTHING but good for me.

 

[NCTREE]

Alright....I am sorry. And I am glad to hear u haven't been drinking. My comment was a low blow and I do apoligize. I just took what u said wrong...I been doin that alot lately... I havn't had a drink in awhile myself and would suggest you keep it up. It has been NOTHING but good for me.

Hey man its hard sometimes to understand where folks are coming from on here. Having a conversation with out seeing facial expressions and tone of voice can make things difficult. At least you were brave enough to start a thread like this. Most would have took on the job and ask questions later. Like MDS said you have to weed through the BS, don't let it discourage you. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Slvrmple72]

Looks like a fun one Treeace! I'd climb it. Did one similiar to it in the Falls last summer. Roped down the limbs and chunked the rest over the deck and agsp. Could see and feel it bending at the ripped out crotch. They do get very brittle though so anticipate your cuts going quicker than usual. I could give ya a hand with it when this rain stops, take care of the little one in the meantime.

 

[lego1970]

Hey man its hard sometimes to understand where folks are coming from on here. Having a conversation with out seeing facial expressions and tone of voice can make things difficult. At least you were brave enough to start a thread like this. Most would have took on the job and ask questions later. Like MDS said you have to weed through the BS, don't let it discourage you. Thanks for sharing.

Very good point.
Yep, that's one of the biggest problems with forums. It's hard to tell if somebody is messing with you or not. When they first started putting in satilite communication in semi trucks back in the mid 90's we ran into the same problem. Sure it was nice because you didn't have to stand in line at a truckstop waiting for a phone, but you lost certain aspects of communication that you would normaly pick up in person or over the phone. If it was a dispatcher that you didn't know, it was hard to tell if they were screwing with you or if it was just a communication breakdown. Now that cell phones are everywhere it's made communication with a dispatcher or boss much easier, however more and more people are texting and it's gonna slide back the other way again. Oh, well.

 

[TreeAce]

The tree is still standing. No one has done anything. I did a drive by this morning after an estimate that was close by. I was in a hurry and it was early so i didn't try n talk to "the mean nieghbor".

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

I havent had a drink since January.

Good going! I quit drinking for quite a while, now I do not have more then one or two beers in a night. It took me many years to finally quit smoking, now if I could just kick Caffeine!

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Btw, I think i had intended to post here before it got so long, but my response crashed somehow and got lost.

In case no one has said this; I would throw a line up and pull-test the tree to see where the moment of bend is. If the damage does not greatly effect the what the remaining wood bends I would climb it with no worries. If the bend could hold my weight, I would go up it and not rig off of it.

If i heard any cracking...Id run like H E dbl ELL

 

[TreeAce]

The only problem with that is if it does come over with the "rope test" I will look like an idiot. Although it is def better to look bad that way VS looking bad "rider down" style. I am VERY worried about free falling anything here. It is just to close to nieghbors garage. I am pretty good at dropping things to land flat but somtimes they still go alittle brush first and then bounce back towards the tree. If that happens it will likely hit garage. Hitting garage is out of the question. They wont even let anyone use driveway (so I hear) God forbid U so much as scrath that garage. I would DEF walk away before I free fall anything I cant get a good grip on and pitch out. If I get this job I am leaning towards "guy lines" off back side of tree. Atleast two..prolly 3. Then rope off small what I cant FORSURE hold onto and pitch. I have done before what I call "light n easy" roping. Mostly stuff no bigger than my forearm and I us an over head rope as much as I can. I also mostly would use my silky on these cuts. Kinda let it "peel over" without an under cut. I can do this with little or no shock.

Here is a picture of the driveway that I am told we CANNOT use. The tree is right off the left corner of nieghbors garage. There is def room under the tree but there is also a rather large lilac that you cant see and Iam sure they dont want trashed. But remember..atleast for me..free fall is a no go because I am to close to garage. I personally wont do it.

 

[justme23005]

The only problem with that is if it does come over with the "rope test" I will look like an idiot. Although it is def better to look bad that way VS looking bad "rider down" style. I am VERY worried about free falling anything here. It is just to close to nieghbors garage. I am pretty good at dropping things to land flat but somtimes they still go alittle brush first and then bounce back towards the tree. If that happens it will likely hit garage. Hitting garage is out of the question. They wont even let anyone use driveway (so I hear) God forbid U so much as scrath that garage. I would DEF walk away before I free fall anything I cant get a good grip on and pitch out. If I get this job I am leaning towards "guy lines" off back side of tree. Atleast two..prolly 3. Then rope off small what I cant FORSURE hold onto and pitch. I have done before what I call "light n easy" roping. Mostly stuff no bigger than my forearm and I us an over head rope as much as I can. I also mostly would use my silky on these cuts. Kinda let it "peel over" without an under cut. I can do this with little or no shock.

Here is a picture of the driveway that I am told we CANNOT use. The tree is right off the left corner of nieghbors garage. There is def room under the tree but there is also a rather large lilac that you cant see and Iam sure they dont want trashed. But remember..atleast for me..free fall is a no go because I am to close to garage. I personally wont do it.

Rope test it at night... If it falls on the neighbors garage, I bet they will let you use their driveway to clean it up.. problem solved.

 

[treeman75]

If you had to cut and throw you can use one of those loop runners. I just bought a couple, you would have much better grip.

 

[climberjones]

The only problem with that is if it does come over with the "rope test" I will look like an idiot. Although it is def better to look bad that way VS looking bad "rider down" style. I am VERY worried about free falling anything here. It is just to close to nieghbors garage. I am pretty good at dropping things to land flat but somtimes they still go alittle brush first and then bounce back towards the tree. If that happens it will likely hit garage. Hitting garage is out of the question. They wont even let anyone use driveway (so I hear) God forbid U so much as scrath that garage. I would DEF walk away before I free fall anything I cant get a good grip on and pitch out. If I get this job I am leaning towards "guy lines" off back side of tree. Atleast two..prolly 3. Then rope off small what I cant FORSURE hold onto and pitch. I have done before what I call "light n easy" roping. Mostly stuff no bigger than my forearm and I us an over head rope as much as I can. I also mostly would use my silky on these cuts. Kinda let it "peel over" without an under cut. I can do this with little or no shock.

Here is a picture of the driveway that I am told we CANNOT use. The tree is right off the left corner of nieghbors garage. There is def room under the tree but there is also a rather large lilac that you cant see and Iam sure they dont want trashed. But remember..atleast for me..free fall is a no go because I am to close to garage. I personally wont do it.

Lets say in the pic you showed of the garage that were looking south could you not rig it to fall southeast ???or is there stuff in the way back there i cant tell from pic,

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

When i do a pull-test I will progressively add force. I may look how the wind loads it first. Put a trowline pu where you want to tie-in and bounce it a little. If the movement is not in the defect area, add some loading. With included tear-outs like that, the bending moment is usually above or below.

I assume there is no adjacent tree to tie into, or set a line between two to climb off of?

 

[TreeAce]

If you had to cut and throw you can use one of those loop runners. I just bought a couple, you would have much better grip.

Thats good thinking. I like that idea. I have used rope to "hold on" to a limb and then untie it and toss but your idea is better. Just have a few runners handy and have em sent up later. Or just slip off an toss branch.

 

[TreeAce]

Lets say in the pic you showed of the garage that were looking south could you not rig it to fall southeast ???or is there stuff in the way back there i cant tell from pic,

There is no room to fell it with or without neighbors OK. Fences,garages,houses,trees,lilacs,etc...

 

[TreeAce]

When i do a pull-test I will progressively add force. I may look how the wind loads it first. Put a trowline pu where you want to tie-in and bounce it a little. If the movement is not in the defect area, add some loading. With included tear-outs like that, the bending moment is usually above or below.

I assume there is no adjacent tree to tie into, or set a line between two to climb off of?

I got ya. No, there are no trees close enough that are tall enough to help.