Premium fuel with ethanol or regular non-ethanol?

[Jimmy in NC]

Two places in my town, both sell 87 octane... They do have 93 in Lillington though!

Mark...old stage rd...where rock service station cuts off....high test with no ethanol. Good stuff.


Where in FV? I'm at 10-10 & 401 everyday.

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[1Alpha1]

The sea of lawnmowers, trimmers, zero turns, generators, tillers, chainsaws, and now snowblowers at my dealership that are in for ethanol related issues says otherwise. Talking to the mechanics in the back they all agree, drain and run dry. We have countless people coming in insisting they used a fuel stabilizer and yet the OPE will not start. Funny how the fuel stabilizer snake oil companies offer no warranty . I have seen too many carbs with " jelly " in them from the ethanol and they are in an airtight environment no? I have to ask why people tempt fate. Just drain the gas, run dry and be done with it. Penny wise pound foolish

 

[Mark71GTX]

I live on the Harnett county side just off of Rawls Church road. Between 401 and Christian Light road. Out in the sticks, just like I like it! I have never lived anywhere that you didn't have to go down a dirt road to get to!

 

[USMC615]

The sea of lawnmowers, trimmers, zero turns, generators, tillers, chainsaws, and now snowblowers at my dealership that are in for ethanol related issues says otherwise. Talking to the mechanics in the back they all agree, drain and run dry. We have countless people coming in insisting they used a fuel stabilizer and yet the OPE will not start. Funny how the fuel stabilizer snake oil companies offer no warranty . I have seen too many carbs with " jelly " in them from the ethanol and they are in an airtight environment no? I have to ask why people tempt fate. Just drain the gas, run dry and be done with it. Penny wise pound foolish

Not doubting your words at all, I would question just how much the customers bringing in their equipment that they obviously can't diagnose or work on...exactly just how many truly are putting additives and stabilizers in their gas for pre-mix, or straight gas engines. If it's a simple, pull a carb, clean the gum out, hit it with at least carb and choke cleaner, drain it, hit it with a compressor...I simply wonder how many are bringing OPE in that has had gas or mix sitting in it since the season before, with nothing added to the fuel. Sounds like damn good business if nothing else. My stuff sure ain't got those problems and never has. Just sayin from my own equipment and experience.

Now, 2123 will have to figure out another 'drain it everytime after use' post, lol. I guess in AZ, with a sand/gravel/cactus front and back yard, ya may not be runnin your stuff like 99% of other folks do.

EDIT...Rockjock, you folks winters are a lot more brutal and much longer where you are for sure than where I am. I can certainly understand the chances of gas/ethanol gumming things up a heap more. Extreme cold for lengthy periods of time is probably much more of a factor in the equation for you folks.

 

[dsell]

I made a tester out of a medicine bottle graduated 8 lines with a magic marker. Tested the puregas Moundridge Coop 91 octane and came up 2% ethanol. Tested the Dillons 87 octane corn fuel and came up 12% ethanol. Those are giving the benefit of doubt. On the high side, 3% and 14%. Both were already mixed 32:1 oil if that makes any difference. That made it easy to see the green gas through the amber plastic medicine bottle.

 

[Jimmy in NC]

I live on the Harnett county side just off of Rawls Church road. Between 401 and Christian Light road. Out in the sticks, just like I like it! I have never lived anywhere that you didn't have to go down a dirt road to get to!

I bet you were no more than a mile from where I use to live. Still have the house...off of Wagstaff.

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[Adirondackstihl]

Mark71GTX.......
Is that an Oliver Super 55 as your avatar pic?

Grandparents had one on the farm when I was a kid. First thing I ever drove besides a 3-wheeler

 

[Deleted member 83629]

This is all i burn in ANYTHING and only THIS.

 

[drf255]

No non-ethanol anywhere by me.

I run 87 octane gas with E while cutting, then I have to remember to drain the saws and make a few extra cuts on E free mix. Never had an issue. Saws run fine, even the ported ones with over 200 psi.

I use BP racing E free 92 octane to make my own canned fuel. Costs me $17 a gallon that way. Premix is $32 a gallon by me.

Pisses me off and is a PITA to try to remember every time. If I had the choice, I'd go 87 E-free with some octane boost (just for insurance).

 

[Mark71GTX]

Jimmy, you are right. Wagstaff is just a small trip from here. Adirondackstihl, that is my Super 55! It is my favorite tractor. I also have my grandfather's Farmall Super A, my other grandfather's Oliver 550's (one gas and one diesel), and a JD 40.

 

[mdavlee]

87 for me. I've run it in several saws with 230 lbs of compression. Never a problem even milling. 87 is always freshest and I can get all 3 grades of non ethanol. I've used some of it with Klotz oil that was 1.5 years old stores in a trufuel can.

 

[beaglebriar]

I run 91 non ethanol. If 87 was the only thing available I'd run that. I've also used leaded 110 race fuel just to get away from ethanol. Had it bridge a couple spark plugs though.

 

[HuskStihl]

I've never had any e problems, but I'd rather run eFree. Mike's point about freshness is important. People buy much, much more 87 than 93. And the 87 will sit in the station's tanks for much less time. I've personally bought bad premium from a brand name station (thank god for knock sensors) but never bad 87 or 89.
This is sacrilege, but even 362 C-M's and 10mm 044 new recipes, likely the bestest saws ever produced, are still low tech, low stress turds in the internal combustion world. Treat 'em like a BMW F1 engine if'n it makes you happy, but they won't care.

 

[KenJax Tree]

I've never had any e problems, but I'd rather run eFree. Mike's point about freshness is important. People buy much, much more 87 than 93. And the 87 will sit in the station's tanks for much less time. I've personally bought bad premium from a brand name station (thank god for knock sensors) but never bad 87 or 89.
This is sacrilege, but even 362 C-M's and 10mm 044 new recipes, likely the bestest saws ever produced, are still low tech, low stress turds in the internal combustion world. Treat 'em like a BMW F1 engine if'n it makes you happy, but they won't care.

We know you're a PSP (Ported Saw Punisher) so im surprised you don't use E85.

This is a classic John[emoji106] sig worthy in fact

 

[PULLINmyPOULAN]

I've been using 90 non ethanol here they call it recreational alot of trails here snowmobiles 4wheelers.

 

[Adirondackstihl]

I have gas

 

[BuckMKII]

I'm fortunate to be able to get 90 octane non ethanol from two local stations. I'd run 87 E0 before I'd run 93 E10.

 

[Adirondackstihl]

Higher octane generates less HP anyway......

 

[a. palmer jr.]

Premium non ethanol.
I don't believe regular non ethanol fuel is available in states that sell ethanol fuel. In Oregon you'll only find clear premium, no clear regular.

Yeah it is, Indiana has it locally to me. You have to hunt for it but I found it in a couple of places.
I just use regular non ethanol gas mixed with good 2 stroke oil @42:1, works for me. In the Lawn Boy mowers I use ethanol regular and the same oil and ratio as the saws.

 

[Adirondackstihl]

Being able to pull up and buy 100LL would be nice.
Unfortunately unless you have an aircraft, they won't sell to you here.