044, ms441 and ms461.

[Stihlproincky]

Hi guys, been a minute since I posted. Life and work shenanigans lol. Hopefully I put this in the right forum.

While scrolling fb marketplace I came across this ad for a 044 red lever, a 441 and a 461. All 3 for $550

Guy states the 044 runs great. The 441 has carb issues or an air leak. The 461 he doesn't know but was told it runs.
I did ask if he knew the history on the saws, he said the 044 was a landowner while the 441 and 461 were commercial but he says he trust the guy he bought them from and he said they weren't used very much. All three were sitting for awhile in a barn, the 441 and 461 are rather dusty.
He also said compression is good on the saws.
The 044 and 441 have bars/chains.

Now, from what I've gathered so far it seems worth a shot. Going Sunday to look at them.
Gonna do a inspection on them, take the muffler off and check the piston/cylinder.

Any thoughts/ideas/suggestions?
Any experience with these saws in particular?
And any thoughts/suggestions for things to look into if I get the saws to get them running?

Thanks in advance, Stihlproincky.

 

[Mad Professor]

Hi guys, been a minute since I posted. Life and work shenanigans lol. Hopefully I put this in the right forum.

While scrolling fb marketplace I came across this ad for a 044 red lever, a 441 and a 461. All 3 for $550

Guy states the 044 runs great. The 441 has carb issues or an air leak. The 461 he doesn't know but was told it runs.
I did ask if he knew the history on the saws, he said the 044 was a landowner while the 441 and 461 were commercial but he says he trust the guy he bought them from and he said they weren't used very much. All three were sitting for awhile in a barn, the 441 and 461 are rather dusty.
He also said compression is good on the saws.
The 044 and 441 have bars/chains.

Now, from what I've gathered so far it seems worth a shot. Going Sunday to look at them.
Gonna do a inspection on them, take the muffler off and check the piston/cylinder.

Any thoughts/ideas/suggestions?
Any experience with these saws in particular?
And any thoughts/suggestions for things to look into if I get the saws to get them running?

Thanks in advance, Stihlproincky.

Besides looking at P/C through muffler, bring some fresh mix, dump the gas in the tanks, give the carbs a shot, and see if they pop/run a bit.

 

[Greg Tracy]

I worked on chainsaw weed whackers The worst for me . A broken flywheel key on a Stihl weed Wacker. You can not buy. A easy replacement . A new 60 dollar flywheel will fix it . I gave up on this brand. What I thought was best. I ran Stihls for about 7 years. I switch to Husqvarna in 1988. I never realized to make a truck load of firewood. I never had to F around to fix a saw. With the Stihls was a event . What part is going to shack apart first the carb or muffler. I ran Stihls from 1981 to 1987 always some breakdown. I got a 50 Husqvarna in 1988 and what joy. Go to the woods get firewood and just do the job . No break down after break down. Just get firewood go home enjoy the heat and nice meal.

 

[SimonHS]

Hi guys, been a minute since I posted. Life and work shenanigans lol. Hopefully I put this in the right forum.

While scrolling fb marketplace I came across this ad for a 044 red lever, a 441 and a 461. All 3 for $550

Guy states the 044 runs great. The 441 has carb issues or an air leak. The 461 he doesn't know but was told it runs.
I did ask if he knew the history on the saws, he said the 044 was a landowner while the 441 and 461 were commercial but he says he trust the guy he bought them from and he said they weren't used very much. All three were sitting for awhile in a barn, the 441 and 461 are rather dusty.
He also said compression is good on the saws.
The 044 and 441 have bars/chains.

Now, from what I've gathered so far it seems worth a shot. Going Sunday to look at them.
Gonna do a inspection on them, take the muffler off and check the piston/cylinder.

Any thoughts/ideas/suggestions?
Any experience with these saws in particular?
And any thoughts/suggestions for things to look into if I get the saws to get them running?

Thanks in advance, Stihlproincky.

Three great saws for $183 each. Well worth the risk I think.

 

[Maintenance supervisor]

Hi guys, been a minute since I posted. Life and work shenanigans lol. Hopefully I put this in the right forum.

While scrolling fb marketplace I came across this ad for a 044 red lever, a 441 and a 461. All 3 for $550

Guy states the 044 runs great. The 441 has carb issues or an air leak. The 461 he doesn't know but was told it runs.
I did ask if he knew the history on the saws, he said the 044 was a landowner while the 441 and 461 were commercial but he says he trust the guy he bought them from and he said they weren't used very much. All three were sitting for awhile in a barn, the 441 and 461 are rather dusty.
He also said compression is good on the saws.
The 044 and 441 have bars/chains.

Now, from what I've gathered so far it seems worth a shot. Going Sunday to look at them.
Gonna do a inspection on them, take the muffler off and check the piston/cylinder.

Any thoughts/ideas/suggestions?
Any experience with these saws in particular?
And any thoughts/suggestions for things to look into if I get the saws to get them running?

Thanks in advance, Stihlproincky.

A fair warning, the MS441 is a very difficult saw to work on. If you like a challenge it can take a first timer upwards of 3hrs to pull the cylinder.
That being said they are incredibly smooth and strong. 1 of my favorite saws.

 

[Stihlproincky]

Three great saws for $183 each. Well worth the risk I think.

That's what I thought! I figured the 044 is worth almost that much by itself.

 

[Stihlproincky]

A fair warning, the MS441 is a very difficult saw to work on. If you like a challenge it can take a first timer upwards of 3hrs to pull the cylinder.
That being said they are incredibly smooth and strong. 1 of my favorite saws.

That i have heard. It'll be my first ms441 but not my first saw to work on. I've heard mixed opinions but most say they're reliable.

 

[Patrick62]

correct, the 441 can be a bear to work on. I had one. it was fuel efficient, and powerful. M tronic version.
I would grab them, and if you can get 2 to run, you are way ahead of the deal!

In response to the Stihl vs Husky post:

I worked on chainsaw weed whackers The worst for me . A broken flywheel key on a Stihl weed Wacker. You can not buy. A easy replacement . A new 60 dollar flywheel will fix it . I gave up on this brand. What I thought was best. I ran Stihls for about 7 years. I switch to Husqvarna in 1988. I never realized to make a truck load of firewood. I never had to F around to fix a saw. With the Stihls was a event . What part is going to shack apart first the carb or muffler. I ran Stihls from 1981 to 1987 always some breakdown. I got a 50 Husqvarna in 1988 and what joy. Go to the woods get firewood and just do the job . No break down after break down. Just get firewood go home enjoy the heat and nice meal.

It is all where we started, and our real world experiences. If my Daddy had come home with a Husqvarna instead of a Stihl in 1975, I would be a Husky guy. Both brands can be "good" and "bad". I cut a lair amount of wood up here, upwards of 50 cords a year now (I sell wood) and my saws have been the least of the problems. Yeah, ocassional spark plug swap, and a carb kit. Change a seal once in awhile.

 

[SimonHS]

Post some photos after you go grab them.

 

[Stihlproincky]

Post some photos after you go grab them.

Will do

 

[Stihlproincky]

correct, the 441 can be a bear to work on. I had one. it was fuel efficient, and powerful. M tronic version.
I would grab them, and if you can get 2 to run, you are way ahead of the deal!

In response to the Stihl vs Husky post:

It is all where we started, and our real world experiences. If my Daddy had come home with a Husqvarna instead of a Stihl in 1975, I would be a Husky guy. Both brands can be "good" and "bad". I cut a lair amount of wood up here, upwards of 50 cords a year now (I sell wood) and my saws have been the least of the problems. Yeah, ocassional spark plug swap, and a carb kit. Change a seal once in awhile.

I've heard more good things about the MS441. Hopefully she don't need to much work.

100% on the brand argument. I have both, I run both. I prefer my Stihls tho. Easier to work on and I have excellent dealer support for them. To each their own I suppose.

We cut 70+ cords yearly and besides rebuilding used saws i bought that way the Stihls haven't needed more than typical maintenance work. I only own 2 Husky's and ones been on the bench since July due to a climbing incident. Still haven't tracked down the part, saw still ran fine.
My 395xp is a beast but a b**ch sometimes. Often I just grab the stihl after a start the 395.

 

[Maintenance supervisor]

The MS441 went through some carburetor and ignition upgrades throughout the run and later M-tronic saws are better for reliability..
That being said I run a very eary carb model with a BB kit of 52mm and a stock M-tronic one with some woods porting. They both run well . Personally I think they should have never left the factory with out a 52mm jug as they run fantastic as a 77cc saw.

 

[Greg Tracy]

correct, the 441 can be a bear to work on. I had one. it was fuel efficient, and powerful. M tronic version.
I would grab them, and if you can get 2 to run, you are way ahead of the deal!

In response to the Stihl vs Husky post:

It is all where we started, and our real world experiences. If my Daddy had come home with a Husqvarna instead of a Stihl in 1975, I would be a Husky guy. Both brands can be "good" and "bad". I cut a lair amount of wood up here, upwards of 50 cords a year now (I sell wood) and my saws have been the least of the problems. Yeah, ocassional spark plug swap, and a carb kit. Change a seal once in awhile.

My 028 was garage. The 041 was joke .Anytime I' expecting to fix stuff every truck load . The Stihls was nice for that. I work 50 60 hour weeks . I really need a saw to preform. I bought a 50 Husqvarna never broke down still have it runs fine. I use what works.

 

[Patrick62]

My 028 was garage. The 041 was joke .Anytime I' expecting to fix stuff every truck load . The Stihls was nice for that. I work 50 60 hour weeks . I really need a saw to preform. I bought a 50 Husqvarna never broke down still have it runs fine. I use what works.

028's were problematical. The 041, you evidently didn't get a good one. That was the first Stihl we had here.
We cut wood with it for 25+ years, zero problems. I acquired another one for the collection, and it has problems. There are so many places for that saw for the crank to leak. old design.
My biggest complaint of Husqvarna is the outboard clutch (same as the 041 really)

 

[Maintenance supervisor]

Idk why the thread is being disrupted by 2 people talking about 40yr old models that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic that was started here? This is exactly why I unwatch every thread ! With the exception of the McCulloch threads . Idiots.