046BB Quality = Awesome

[Tzed250]

Ya. I agree about supporting local stuff. FYI, I've never bought a BB kit. I may just try one though and a Makita I'm getting though, depends on how much a OEM 7900 kit is I guess.

I was under the impression that the stock 7900 top end was very reasonably priced.


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[MuleyJ]

I was under the impression that the stock 7900 top end was very reasonably priced.


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The OEM 7900 is $185 from Baileys if I remember right. Significantly less than either Stihl or Husky cylinders manufactured by the same company. The OEM 460 top end is over $300 and the 385/390 is just under $300.

 

[Tzed250]

The OEM 7900 is $185 from Baileys if I remember right. Significantly less than either Stihl or Husky cylinders manufactured by the same company. The OEM 460 top end is over $300 and the 385/390 is just under $300.

I think it is well established that Stihl uses very little Mahle product on the 460/660. Dolmar might be able to keep the price lower on the Mahle product due to the fact that the Dolmar distribution system is most likely a fly speck compared to the Stihl network.


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[MuleyJ]

I think it is well established that Stihl uses very little Mahle product on the 460/660. Dolmar might be able to keep the price lower on the Mahle product due to the fact that the Dolmar distribution system is most likely a fly speck compared to the Stihl network.


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Assumption on my part about the Mahle, regardless they are still near twice the price. I doubt very seriously that the little guy can charge just over half the price cause of a small distribution system. Most of the time it is the other way around. Likely Stihl and Husky get those prices because they can.

 

[Tzed250]

Assumption on my part about the Mahle, regardless they are still near twice the price. I doubt very seriously that the little guy can charge just over half the price cause of a small distribution system. Most of the time it is the other way around. Likely Stihl and Husky get those prices because they can.

The money for infrastructure has to come or not come from somewhere. Supply and Demand set the price.


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[MuleyJ]

The money for infrastructure has to come or not come from somewhere. Supply and Demand set the price.


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So what you are saying is that Dolmar can pay Mahle to produce cylinders and sell them for just over half the price Stihl charges for it's cylinders because Dolmar's distribution network is a "fly spec" compared to Stihl. That's an interesting perspective on things. Supply and demand has set the price. The big guys with the names and reputation get almost twice the price for what is essentially the same product.

 

[Tzed250]

So what you are saying is that Dolmar can pay Mahle to produce cylinders and sell them for just over half the price Stihl charges for it's cylinders because Dolmar's distribution network is a "fly spec" compared to Stihl. That's an interesting perspective on things. Supply and demand has set the price. The big guys with the names and reputation get almost twice the price for what is essentially the same product.

It is not the same product. Part of the "product" is the system that it takes to get you the product. There are five large Stihl dealers within a 40 minute drive from my house. All of them are set up to supply the logging industry.

Here is a photo of the largest Dolmar dealership I have seen in this region:

I am NOT slamming Dolmar, they build great chainsaws, but if you are trying to make a living with a chainsaw then you better have some support.




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[MuleyJ]

It is not the same product. Part of the "product" is the system that it takes to get you the product. There are five large Stihl dealers within a 40 minute drive from my house. All of them are set up to supply the logging industry.


I am NOT slamming Dolmar, they build great chainsaws, but if you are trying to make a living with a chainsaw then you better have some support.




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I am more than willing to pay for support and I understand that it comes at a price. Secondly that support is at the expense of more than just the company. I am saying that there is positively no way that this costs Stihl or Husqvarna anywhere near $100-$165 per P/C.

 

[Tzed250]

I am more than willing to pay for support and I understand that it comes at a price. Secondly that support is at the expense of more than just the company. I am saying that there is positively no way that this costs Stihl or Husqvarna anywhere near $100-$165 per P/C.

Since Stihl just started making cylinders their cost will be much higher than Mahle, which has had years to ammortize the cost of production.


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[Andyshine77]

If I had to guess Stihl gets their cylinders from Mahle for much less than Dolmar or anyone else for that matter. Demand actually lowers price in most cases, at least that's what I've seen in manufacturing. Order 20 cylinders cost is $100 order 2,000 cost goes to $50.00 Why? the cost of changing over retooling and molds takes time and time = money. Manufacturing is completely different than a raw commodity.

 

[MuleyJ]

Since Stihl just started making cylinders their cost will be much higher than Mahle, which has had years to ammortize the cost of production.


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OK whatever, you are right. It costs Stihl $165 more to produce their cylinders. Their parts just started getting expensive since they started producing their own P/C anyway. They are not making any more money on them, WTF was I thinking. They are just that much better and more expensive to produce.

BTW hows them Stihl

 

[Tzed250]

OK whatever, you are right. It costs Stihl $165 more to produce their cylinders. Their parts just started getting expensive since they started producing their own P/C anyway. They are not making any more money on them, WTF was I thinking. They are just that much better and more expensive to produce.

BTW hows them Stihl

I don't know about the fasteners, but I am sure you can tell me how you like to hug Brads

 

[parrisw]

I was under the impression that the stock 7900 top end was very reasonably priced.


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Thanks. Yes I've heard that too.

 

[MuleyJ]

I don't know about the fasteners, but I am sure you can tell me how you like to hug Brads

Uh Oh now I gone and done it. Is that supposed to be a twig? :hmm3grin2orange:




I sure hope u are getting as much of a chuckle out of this as I am.

 

[Tzed250]

Uh Oh now I gone and done it. Is that supposed to be a twig? :hmm3grin2orange:




I sure hope u are getting as much of a chuckle out of this as I am.

Well, I hope so too.

It just occured to me that after looking at your signature that you yourself have hugged Stihls

quite a bit more than I have...




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[MuleyJ]

Well, I hope so too.

It just occured to me that after looking at your signature that you yourself have hugged Stihls

quite a bit more than I have...




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Well maybe a bit, I just don't like to brag about it. Once I taught myself how to work on saws (with lots of help from the great members of this site) I became an equal opportunity fastener fondler.

 

[Tzed250]

....psssst.....don't tell anybody....but I have stated many times on this site that my next saw would likely be a Jonsered...


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[MuleyJ]

....psssst.....don't tell anybody....but I have stated many times on this site that my next saw would likely be a Jonsered...


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What? IDK about that, it takes some big

to fondle another brands fasteners.

 

[Anthony_Va.]

The last few pages of this thread have been a riot! LMAO.

But I have to admit, too much

grabbing for my taste.:hmm3grin2orange: