2101xp/ top all time muscle saws!!!!!!!!!!!

[NORMZILLA44]

Aaron yep love the newbie, Running way fat though, and need to retune. It was mostly the 2101 show. The 66 hit something in the trees, as in cringed shait! Used the 2101-660-372. Big wood today, the 2101 shined:msp_smile: Singing woodwackr, we met before? How many aces? !28 beautiful area. Talk soon my friends.

 

[singinwoodwackr]

Aaron yep love the newbie, Running way fat though, and need to retune. It was mostly the 2101 show. The 66 hit something in the trees, as in cringed shait! Used the 2101-660-372. Big wood today, the 2101 shined:msp_smile: Singing woodwackr, we met before? How many aces? !28 beautiful area. Talk soon my friends.

don't know...family owned ranch, 2000 acre thats co-owned by Meyers/Stashak (currently for sale )

 

[paccity]

was out at the museum grounds this morn bucking up some logs for the carvers and some doug for this years steamup "last weekend of july and first weekend of august" . the doug is for my saw demo's . ran the old 2100 , love it as always . but brought the ugly 272 as a backup . did run the 272 and i was quite impressed with this saw. i think i'll pull the muff and see if there are any superizes inside. of coarse a nice square chain didnot hurt.

 

[Alex D]

new guy here
Old firewood cutter from Cali central valley...mostly Almond and Walnut starting with a 266xp then 044 and finally the 066. Used to be able to go 6day/week all day long but a few hrs about kills me now

Have been running the same 066mag 'red-eye' since the mid 80s when they first came out. I mainly use a 24" bar with comp chiz and 8t rim for anything under 30" and then switch to either a 32 or 36 and a 7t with skip chain. Past that I have a 404g 42" full skip. The saw has always pulled even the 42 with ease in big pine to big oak and Euch to 6' (as long as I don't go nuts on raker filing). I'm too out of shape to use the 42 much anymore...getting old and soft. The saw came with the dual port muffler and was rated at 7.8hp from the factory. I've since ported/gutted the muffler for a little more power. A newer 066 I also have isn't quite as fast despite swapping to the dual port, modded muffler. I did notice the other day that the carb in it has .062 jet so that might be the problem

I've used an 090 (48" bar) before and it dang-near kilt me...lost feeling in my hands for hrs afterwards
084 was nice once you got it on the log...too darn heavy, though.
056...nice with a 36" bar but again...too heavy
281, 288...didn't really care for them
3120....too heavy
Never used a Sach but hope to one day.

ran my 066 with a buddy's Husky 394 on a 3' Cedar log one time...both with 42" skip but he had 3/8 and I had 404. wasn't much of a contest...smoked him

for an all around saw I have yet to play with anything that beat this Stihl.

If an 066 running .404 skip chain on a 42" bar smoked a husky 394 with 3/8" skip on a 42" then something is up
1) There is something wrong with the 394
2) The chain on the 394 is not sharpened properly
3) The user of the 394 is inexperienced although this could lead to 2 as well
4) The 066 is very modified eg woods port I doubt a muff mod could make a 066 stronger than the husky 394
The husky 394 has more torque and power than the 066 which would show in a 3 foot log. Plus 3/8" is faster than .404

 

[mdavlee]

I would think the 066 if it's a flat top non decomp cylinder then there might be a chance if the 394 is totally stock. I've run a couple of them stock that were stronger than 660s ported.

 

[singinwoodwackr]

If an 066 running .404 skip chain on a 42" bar smoked a husky 394 with 3/8" skip on a 42" then something is up
1) There is something wrong with the 394
2) The chain on the 394 is not sharpened properly
3) The user of the 394 is inexperienced although this could lead to 2 as well
4) The 066 is very modified eg woods port I doubt a muff mod could make a 066 stronger than the husky 394
The husky 394 has more torque and power than the 066 which would show in a 3 foot log. Plus 3/8" is faster than .404

could have been a bunch of other factors...both saws were stock, the Husky was new vs my 10yr old Stihl...can't remember how sharp the chains were (he (tree service owner/climber for 25yrs) also may have been running comp...was in the early '90s so memory's not so great ...how clean the air filters were, etc.
remember there are different versions of the 066 with hp ratings of 7.0 or 7.8...mine's the latter.
"smoked" might have been a slight exaggeration

 

[NORMZILLA44]

Yeah the 394 is a horse for sure. Good point though also like mentioned also, the different 66 versions. For example mine being like singingwoodchuckers ten years old. It will out cut our new one at work. Just dp mufflers, same bar and chain. Weird I have wondered this question for years, if the same saw, and specs why is one stringer, in the same brand and class? I think the early 394, and early 66 would be a close race, almost to close to call. I still want a 394!! Too, but ain't parting with my 660:msp_w00t: Want to collect some thoughts, you guys know my love for the 2100's. The one thing they lacked is the best filtration system, good though, but much rather have like the hd new style. Though husky put them in the right spot up on the top, where the pull less chips and dust in. So my big huskies even the 2100's stay clean. But question is what is the best filtration we can have on it? I have heard from the Aussie's there lack of love for K&N if I remember. Can we put a new style heavy duty one on, adapt it somehow?

 

[Alex D]

I would think the 066 if it's a flat top non decomp cylinder then there might be a chance if the 394 is totally stock. I've run a couple of them stock that were stronger than 660s ported.

could have been a bunch of other factors...both saws were stock, the Husky was new vs my 10yr old Stihl...can't remember how sharp the chains were (he (tree service owner/climber for 25yrs) also may have been running comp...was in the early '90s so memory's not so great ...how clean the air filters were, etc.
remember there are different versions of the 066 with hp ratings of 7.0 or 7.8...mine's the latter.
"smoked" might have been a slight exaggeration

Very interesting I didn't know they even had 066s in the 1980s. I have one from 1994 that has the dp cover and though those were the earliest as it has the aluminum flywheel. Anyhow that must be a helluva strong 066 if it could beat a husky 394 wearing .404.

 

[uwsp]

2100 husky

I love my husky but wants to bog down when laid on its side for felling! Any suggestions??

 

[NORMZILLA44]

Alex, production year is a good question. I can't even remember to tell the truth. I thought early 90's, maybe earlier. I forget when the 064 showed up. Short lived on the 064 if you ask me, was a great saw. I never got to run a 394 yet, but always have wanted one, and heard they are awesome. Ran into many fallers here who love, and still run them.

 

[singinwoodwackr]

Alex, production year is a good question. I can't even remember to tell the truth. I thought early 90's, maybe earlier. I forget when the 064 showed up. Short lived on the 064 if you ask me, was a great saw. I never got to run a 394 yet, but always have wanted one, and heard they are awesome. Ran into many fallers here who love, and still run them.

I'll have to run the SN to figure out the build year buy am positive it was before '89 when we moved to AZ for a couple years.

 

[mdavlee]

I think the 066 was introduced in 1987 or so. I've read it somewhere on here before. JJ would know for sure. The older cylinders on the red light saws were good, the non decomp flat top, and then the first cylinders with decomp are the better runners. The new 660 cylinders even when ported are sometimes not as strong as the early red light and non decomps stock. The 394/5s are heard to beat as a stock saw in the 90cc class. A dolmar 9010 is also right with them.

 

[singinwoodwackr]

I think the 066 was introduced in 1987 or so. I've read it somewhere on here before. JJ would know for sure. The older cylinders on the red light saws were good, the non decomp flat top, and then the first cylinders with decomp are the better runners. The new 660 cylinders even when ported are sometimes not as strong as the early red light and non decomps stock. The 394/5s are heard to beat as a stock saw in the 90cc class. A dolmar 9010 is also right with them.

I thought I'd gotten one from the first batch of 066s our dealer got in (Sharpening shop, Turlock, Ca)...first one I saw was bought by one of the other guys on the crew...I tried it and fell in love $868 OTD with 24" bar/chain

but...just found the receipt...I was way off on the year bought :bang: 9-'92 I'd forgotten we moved back to Merced by then (in AZ for wife's grad degree for 2yrs) and that's when I got the saw.
SN: 125172482

 

[NORMZILLA44]

I love my husky but wants to bog down when laid on its side for felling! Any suggestions??

Metering lever in the carb? Thanks to my friend Aaron he has pointed this out to me, as of lately. Maybe loading up on fuel. Or improper adjsutement? Crank seal should be hihger rpm, so I think thats out. I say carb. Tank vent, or maybe fuel filter moved in the tank, and losing fuel?

 

[NORMZILLA44]

Good post mike, thought they were early, and even late 80's but been a long time since I ran the first of the 66. I remember it seemed like all 56 mag 2's. Then the 64 showed up, and then disappeared short lived why I do not now. Then the 66 appeared.

 

[NORMZILLA44]

Yeah the 394 is a horse for sure. Good point though also like mentioned also, the different 66 versions. For example mine being like singingwoodchuckers ten years old. It will out cut our new one at work. Just dp mufflers, same bar and chain. Weird I have wondered this question for years, if the same saw, and specs why is one stringer, in the same brand and class? I think the early 394, and early 66 would be a close race, almost to close to call. I still want a 394!! Too, but ain't parting with my 660:msp_w00t: Want to collect some thoughts, you guys know my love for the 2100's. The one thing they lacked is the best filtration system, good though, but much rather have like the hd new style. Though husky put them in the right spot up on the top, where the pull less chips and dust in. So my big huskies even the 2100's stay clean. But question is what is the best filtration we can have on it? I have heard from the Aussie's there lack of love for K&N if I remember. Can we put a new style heavy duty one on, adapt it somehow?

Any Ideas on new style filtration for the 2100's??

 

[Eccentric]

Metering lever in the carb? Thanks to my friend Aaron he has pointed this out to me, as of lately. Maybe loading up on fuel. Or improper adjsutement? Crank seal should be hihger rpm, so I think thats out. I say carb. Tank vent, or maybe fuel filter moved in the tank, and losing fuel?

Changing tune when the saw is on it's side could be crank seals (especially if the idle speed/tune changes). Otherwise, I'd suspect the fuel line and filter in the tank.

 

[tramp bushler]

Good post mike, thought they were early, and even late 80's but been a long time since I ran the first of the 66. I remember it seemed like all 56 mag 2's. Then the 64 showed up, and then disappeared short lived why I do not now. Then the 66 appeared.

. The 064 was around for 6 years or so. They were great saws but the 066 just had More stump with simular weight .. It burned more fuel tho. vibrated the same. still felt like a box with handles as Jordan says. When the 394 came out it was amazing. 2100 power and less vibration than an 044 .plus it had the magic blue button .. Didn't have to dread starting it.

 

[tramp bushler]

ya. the 66 came out in 92 or 93 .

If I had to cut with a Stihl in Southeast I would prefer a 64 to a 660 .
Over 40 minutes on a tank of fuel puts scale on your hat.
in nice 2 bushel timber I could cut more scale with the 288 than I could with the 394 .
In big timber no.

 

[paccity]

Any Ideas on new style filtration for the 2100's??

norm, i don't know why some folks have a prob with the k&n's? i have them on the 272,288,2100. and have absolutely no problems. but i'm making saw chips not saw dust. and if you shop around you can get them for the same or cheaper than a stock filter. just my three and a half cents worth.