661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[blsnelling]

So how much is the ported 661 running 32:1 belray, going to beat my stock 661 running 50:1 belray by? % percentage wise? ?? 10%? 20%? 30%? 40%?

How could I possibly answer that?

 

[KenJax Tree]

Just go with the ratio...so with a 32:1 ratio, i say the odds are 32:1 it will win by 32%

 

[Trx250r180]

If you guys are gonna race ,put em side by side like this ,i have a feeling Redbull660 will be in the car to the right though ........

 

[blsnelling]

So, if the ported saw doesn't win by at least 30%, you win?!!! You've gone from the stock saw winning, to demanding that the ported saw win by 30%!

 

[KG441c]

ok so if the ported 661 32:1 belray doesn't win agains my muff modded 661 with 50:1 belray, by say at least 30% what do I get?

How about you guys cover my gas to get there and back? $50.

U would get a pint of yamalube 2r!!!! Lol!!!

 

[blsnelling]

You started this by confidently stating that you would beat the ported saw. The burden of proof is on you.

 

[bwalker]

Would you classify the following oils in the same class?

Maxima Super-M - http://www.maximausa.com/product/super-m/
Motul 710 - https://m.motul.com/us/en-US/products/oils-lubricants/710-2t--2
Yamalube 2R - https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/docs/MSDS_Yamaha_Yamalube 2R.pdf
Lucas - http://lucasoil.com/products/2-cycle-oil/lucas-semi-synthetic-2-cycle-oil

Same class?

 

[blsnelling]

Same class?

Similar base oils and protection level.

 

[blsnelling]

So why don't ya put up some money where your mouth is?

Because I'm simply not that interested. I can perform my own test the next time a stock 661 comes in. I simply don't believe it makes that much difference.

If I were going to spend money on testing oil, I'd be testing is protection level, and then cleanliness.

 

[Trx250r180]

well you guys are sooo confident the ported 661 is going to destroy my muff modded 661. I'm not saying that i win.

I'm just saying that since you guys are sooo confident, if it doesn't beat me by 30% ya'll should cover my gas cost.

but maybe now 30% is too high?

Even if you have your other 661 ported ,and run it against the stock saw on your dime ,they will still find loop holes in the testing ,just too many variables in this stuff ,all it would prove is what those 2 saws were ,in the type of wood you were cutting .

I do enjoy the test vids if it makes a rats ass ,and i have branched out of my comfort zone on mix because of them ,so i still give you an attaboy for all the effort put into this stuff .

And if you guys need chain , now is the time to get a good deal on some .

 

[blsnelling]

interesting... you had the opportunity to show how much faster your ported 661 was over a stock 661 and you didn't do it.

If I want to send my saw anywhere for testing, I'll send it to Chad to run on a real dyno. Until then, the videos I posted above are sufficient evidence of the difference in my ported saw.

It's amazing how you made an insane claim, and are now trying to project the burden of proof onto someone else. Simply amazing.

 

[Andyshine77]

I like pie, anyone else?

 

[KenJax Tree]

This gets better and better[emoji1]

 

[blsnelling]

I like pie, anyone else?

Apple, cherry, or strawberry?

 

[bwalker]

Similar base oils and protection level.

The base oil blends are all different and it's impossible to say that based on a MSDS sheet.
I think you really need to forget about protection level, as it's likely all are much more than adequate. There are other factors that are much more important for a work saw application, be it ported or stock.

 

[bwalker]

well you guys are sooo confident that i'm just going to get destroyed. So if I'm driving 9hrs, I think you guys should have something at stake as well that's all.

Epic back peddle..

 

[Andyshine77]

Apple, cherry, or strawberry?

Apple!! [emoji1]

 

[KG441c]

Apple, cherry, or strawberry?

Any of thoso base stocks will be good as long as the ratio is right so they dont plug the exhaust up!!!!

 

[bwalker]

base oils... I'll take the belray 90% ester base oil with 10% additives over any of this other garbage 30-75% blah blah base oil + this that and the other thing. Well 800 is interesting...another all ester base oil.

h1r and 800 = simple


interesting... you had the opportunity to show how much faster your ported 661 was over a stock 661 and you didn't do it.


how about instead of me spending 9hrs in the car. I pay for you to ship your ported 661 to a neutral location which is close to me. Stihlivin is close to me. I'm by twin cities MN.

I am sure you would, but only because you don't know what the hell your talking about.. I challenge you to find an actual FD or EGD certified oil that's straight high temp ester like H1R. You won't because such oils can't pass the smoke or deposit tests. And these test are really scientific tests, not the ridiculous "fun with chainsaws" tests you are running.

 

[bwalker]

why cuz i don't want to drive 9hrs to do it with out getting something in return if I win.

BS!