661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[KG441c]

Just ran r50 in a 461 and a 390xp. Ran r2 in a 440 and the r2 was very low odor . R50 doesnt smell near as bad as h1r to my nose

Got to admit the yamalube r2 leaves just as much oil coating as r50 and 800t and was just as clean

 

[WKEND LUMBERJAK]

What are you all paying? I buy 6 pak of 2.5 mix Jonsered oil for 11.49. Is that high? I burn 20 gallons of mix per year.

Amsoil is about 12 to 14.00 a quart. Seems like the Lucas is in that same range. I also mix it at 32:1 I have a couple ported saws that is what the builders recommended. I run that in all my 2 strokes not keeping several mix jugs. Mike have a great day. Jonsered may have changed there supplier????.

 

[brockhaskins]

Curious what the price is on most these oils. I know some are quite expensive.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Most are $15-$25 a liter

 

[KG441c]

Might be considering the yamalube r2 from what I saw this morning. Exhaust port was wet but muffler was dry and plug light tan . Piston had a tad of oil across it

 

[KG441c]

From a porter this morning that I respect and trust . "I like to see a thin hard carbon across the crown of the piston . Acts as an insulator and helps get rid of heat. "

 

[Trx250r180]

Couple plugs i pulled first is my milling 660 ,32 to 1 h1r ,this plug is same one that came back with my saw after Randy built it ,must be 1 couple years old now ,what are these white deposits from ?


This one is a 440 hybrid ,is running rich but no deposits ,different oil ,i need to lean this out some ,i can feel it rich on response ,this plug was run on h1r ,was sooty ,is starting to clean up with oil brand change

 

[mdavlee]

Curious what the price is on most these oils. I know some are quite expensive.

$10-20 qyart/liter. Klotz can be bought for $40 or less a gallon. Stihl ultra is $15 6 pack for 1 gallon I believe. It was way high for oil.

 

[bwalker]

Might be considering the yamalube r2 from what I saw this morning. Exhaust port was wet but muffler was dry and plug light tan . Piston had a tad of oil across it

I wouldn't reccomend the stuff if it wasn't good and didn't have a long track record of great performance. A track record longer than any oil mentioned in this thread.

 

[brockhaskins]

Kenjax have you started running super m yet and at what ratio? Thoughts. Sorry if u have already covers this. Have tried keeping up on this thread but missed a bit

 

[bwalker]

Couple plugs i pulled first is my milling 660 ,32 to 1 h1r ,this plug is same one that came back with my saw after Randy built it ,must be 1 couple years old now ,what are these white deposits from ?
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This one is a 440 hybrid ,is running rich but no deposits ,different oil ,i need to lean this out some ,i can feel it rich on response ,this plug was run on h1r ,was sooty ,is starting to clean up with oil brand change
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First plug was run much harder and at steadier throttle. Shows ash deposits. Second one looks a bit rich and ran under less load.

 

[bwalker]

From a porter this morning that I respect and trust . "I like to see a thin hard carbon across the crown of the piston . Acts as an insulator and helps get rid of heat. "

If the motor is tuned right you will always see this with any oil.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Out of my 201T with a few hundred hours on it. 40:1 Lucas and about 20-25 tanks of K2 or Super M

 

[brockhaskins]

Thinking of mixing one or the other 36:1 and using in the saws and banshee/bikes. Price difference?

 

[KenJax Tree]

Thinking of mixing one or the other 36:1 and using in the saws and banshee/bikes. Price difference?

?? Which one and what other one

 

[brockhaskins]

Lucas or super m

 

[bwalker]

One other thing to consider is looking at plugs like this doesn't tell a whole lot about oil performance or correct mixture.
To set mixture by reading a plug you need to do a plug chop with a brand new plug. Then you need to inspect the mixture ring that forms where the porcelain and metal she'll meet. Looking at the nose of the plug doesn't tell you much other than in a very general sense.
Oil performance is best judged by looking at the crown, exhaust port, head and ring land area.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Lucas or super m

If you buy small its about the same..$10 for a quart of Lucas and $12 for a liter of Super M. Gallons is different i pay $29 for a gallon of Lucas and Super M doesn't come in 1 gallon its 1/2 gallon or 5 gallons. I paid $26 for a half gallon of it. So basically $30 a gallon for Lucas or $52 a gallon for Super M. I see no added benefit using the Super M so its back to Lucas.....again

 

[RonL]

Flame away here but what is wrong with OEM oil?

WTF!!!!!

If EVERYONE used OEM oils we wouldn't have these oil threads!

Do you want to live in a world with no oil threads?

Seriously though, the state of the art in oil sciences constantly advances. I think it's good to periodically review the advances. If there weren't people constantly questioning the state of the art do you think the OEM's would be pushing the high tech stuff now, or do you think they would be pushing the six packs of high profit margin mineral oil?

 

[Homelite410]

WTF!!!!!

If EVERYONE used OEM oils we wouldn't have these oil threads!

Do you want to live in a world with no oil threads?

Seriously though, the state of the art in oil sciences constantly advances. I think it's good to periodically review the advances. If there weren't people constantly questioning the state of the art do you think the OEM's would be pushing the high tech stuff now, or do you think they would be pushing the six packs of high profit margin mineral oil?

There is the fire I was accustomed to! Bam!