661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[KenJax Tree]

I don't really think R50 "stinks" it just gets to me.

My only test of oil is mixing it, using it and knowing how clean it burns all at a reasonable cost. I don't the the time, energy, money, or ambition for anything else.[emoji3]

From my own observation HP2 is my first choice and 2R is my second. This Amsoil Saber seem decent too but i haven't used a lot of it.

 

[KG441c]

yeah maybe the next test. I'll have scott cut as well, if he's willing? For example.

Log 1 = redbull cuts on
Log 2 = Tree Monkey cuts on

That way we have two different operators and can figure out more faster. Scott knows waaay more than I do.

hell if he is willing and has time, I'll mix up some more R50, hp2, k2, 2r and have him cut some firewood with each.

another reason I like R50 and Hp2 is they had nice tone even at 40 and 45:1. Where k2 and 2r were only good at 32:1. The test was done at 50-55F degrees. So what happens when I go to cut at 95 F out?

That sounds like a good plan. Throw 800t in there please

 

[redbull660]

or if scott is willing, what if I filled up the saw with xyz oil at abc ratio. With OUT him knowing what it is, then had him cut some firewood with the stuff and give his impressions. A "blind" test if you will.

 

[bwalker]

I think that 661 is running erratic, hence all the changes in sound or feel in the cut..

 

[hardpan]

I don't really think R50 "stinks" it just gets to me.

My only test of oil is mixing it, using it and knowing how clean it burns all at a reasonable cost. I don't the the time, energy, money, or ambition for anything else.[emoji3]

From my own observation HP2 is my first choice and 2R is my second. This Amsoil Saber seem decent too but i haven't used a lot of it.

If my memory serves me, you were the one who first felt strongly about the HP2. Now it seems to be a strong contender. I'll say it again, you heavy users bring a lot to the discussion. As Brad correctly told me way back, at my low usage I would be fine with any "big name" brand but I still read every page and just maybe I'll give HP2 a spin for the fun of it. LOL

 

[bwalker]

I started running HP2 in July, so I'm not sure what I'm biased about. Difference in exhaust sound? Twisting what? At this point you've totally lost me, and not to be mean, but I think you have some issues. Carry on I'll stop trying to be the voice of reason. Best of luck.

Anyone who who actually understands w

yeah maybe the next test. I'll have scott cut as well, if he's willing? For example.

Log 1 = redbull cuts on
Log 2 = Tree Monkey cuts on

That way we have two different operators and can figure out more faster. Scott knows waaay more than I do.

hell if he is willing and has time, I'll mix up some more R50, hp2, k2, 2r and have him cut some firewood with each.

another reason I like R50 and Hp2 is they had nice tone even at 40 and 45:1. Where k2 and 2r were only good at 32:1. The test was done at 50-55F degrees. So what happens when I go to cut at 95 F out?

Glad they have nice sound properties...LMFAO!

 

[bwalker]

I've owned 6 of these things now. one had a problem. This one runs fine.

the changes it had on r50 and hp2 were linear. 32 to 40 to 45 to 50. 2r k2 they were linear on as well. There was nothing out of the ordinary in the way the saw ran.

I've now run in the 661 h1r, stihl, 800, schaeffers, k2, 2r, hp2, r50, mobil one, amsoil. So yeah nothing out of the ordinary as far as how the saw ran.

I'm not arguing with you. However, for some one who is knowledgeable it's pretty apparent that tuning causes the change in sound and torque you have observed..

 

[KG441c]

Ill take alil tradeoff in speed for protection and there has to be the happy medium. So far it looks that HP2 is the best gig in town

 

[Atechguy]

I reckon this is Bobsthechainoil .com

 

[bwalker]

Ill take alil tradeoff in speed for protection and there has to be the happy medium. So far it looks that HP2 is the best gig in town

I wouldn't assume there is a tradeoffs based on this test..

 

[tree monkey]

Ill take alil tradeoff in speed for protection and there has to be the happy medium. So far it looks that HP2 is the best gig in town

my thoughts are the oil that give the fastest cut times and lowest temps will give the best protection.

 

[KG441c]

I wouldn't assume there is an tradeoffs based on this test..

Gotta start somewhere and its gotta be better than guessing I would think. Maybe these test at least showed in general some traits in these oils and what responded best in mtronics and or the 661

 

[bwalker]

my thoughts are the oil that give the fastest cut times and lowest temps will give the best protection.

Based on what?

 

[bwalker]

Gotta start somewhere and its gotta be better than guessing I would think. Maybe these test at least showed in general some traits in these oils and what responded best in mtronics and or the 661

But it is guessing...

 

[KG441c]

But it is guessing...

Cmon now. It has some credibility with as many cuts per oil averaged even including variables? And the tuning was null being the unit is mtronics and RB did all in his control to even the variables

 

[bwalker]

Cmon now. It has some credibility with as many cuts per oil averaged even including variables? And the tuning was null being the unit is mtronics and RB did all in his control to even the variables

Your making the assumption that Mtronic controls tightly. It obviously doesn't as the observations of tone and torque are indications of tuning..
And that's just one of the variables.
Paper, rock, scissors may be more accurate..

 

[redbull660]

Your making the assumption that Mtronic controls tightly. It obviously doesn't as the observations of tone and torque are indications of tuning..
And that's just one of the variables.
Paper, rock, scissors may be more accurate..

uhh no, your making the assumption that the saw doesn't...

Each oil has a different formulation/make up.

Each oil ran slightly different at the same ratio and different ratios.

Saw runs fine. The saw is the constant here. It's the oil is the variation. You have 4 different formulations of course they are going to act different.

 

[Ron660]

I started running HP2 in July, so I'm not sure what I'm biased about. Difference in exhaust sound? Twisting what? At this point you've totally lost me, and not to be mean, but I think you have some issues. Carry on I'll stop trying to be the voice of reason. Best of luck.

How clean does HP2 burn compared to others?

 

[bwalker]

uhh no, your making the assumption that the saw doesn't...

Each oil has a different formulation/make up.

Each oil ran slightly different at the same ratio and different ratios.

Saw runs fine. It's the oil. You have 4 different formulations of course they are going to act different.

You don't know that.. What I know is when I have a motor that screams and lacks torque it's lean..I don't blame it on the oil. Perhaps in time as you gain experience you will understand this?

 

[Ron660]

Redbull, does HP2 contain esters?