Aftermarket Cylinder... good and bad... the Truth!

[Naked Arborist]

I put a chinese p/c in my brothers 026 a couple months ago,NEVER AGAIN.I had to grind the bottom of the piston so it didn't hit the crank and I left out the base gasket and got a .041 squish.The skirt on the intake side was narrower that the exhaust side and the cylinder was chrome plated.I now have a paper weight and an OEM p/c on the way for him right now.You get what you pay for is a correct statement.

...and sometimes you get ripped off even if the quality IS there. Had to be said!

 

[bucknfeller]

Don't want to stir things up here, but Spacemule did have a question that didn't get answered. "Will a 395xp kit go on a 394xp?" Curious myself, I've never worked on either.

 

[tree monkey]

to the op

if your going to go through the time and efert to get these p&c kits up to snuf, why noy make them better then oem? how about quad port in 660, 460, 440, 360 stihl saws?
i'll try one if you can get them made

scott

 

[tree monkey]

Don't want to stir things up here, but Spacemule did have a question that didn't get answered. "Will a 395xp kit go on a 394xp?" Curious myself, I've never worked on either.

i think so

 

[watsonr]

Don't want to stir things up here, but Spacemule did have a question that didn't get answered. "Will a 395xp kit go on a 394xp?" Curious myself, I've never worked on either.

I don't know, not that familiar with those saws either. I'll try to get an answer.

to the op

if your going to go through the time and efert to get these p&c kits up to snuf, why noy make them better then oem? how about quad port in 660, 460, 440, 360 stihl saws?
i'll try one if you can get them made

scott

I've got several companies working to improve there product. Does ANY stihl come with that type porting? Bad enough just getting them to fix the coating, ports and compression. Give me something to show if you can. If we could just design whatever we wanted, sure would be easier.

 

[tree monkey]

just copy the 372xp transfer windows and angels, leave the lower transfers as the are
.025 squish should be a good safe production number

 

[Jacob J.]

Don't want to stir things up here, but Spacemule did have a question that didn't get answered. "Will a 395xp kit go on a 394xp?" Curious myself, I've never worked on either.

They will- but you need the 395 rubber intake boot + clamp, intake sleeve, dust shield, throttle cable, manifold, intake studs, and filter base.

 

[Mike Boyer]

Don't want to stir things up here, but Spacemule did have a question that didn't get answered. "Will a 395xp kit go on a 394xp?" Curious myself, I've never worked on either.

Yup, there's a thread somwhere too, and I think someone makes a parts kit--you need a different adapter deal for the carb and maybe the muffler or something else minor. I remember reading about and thinkinking it wasn't a big deal, or too pricey--I'm thinking ~50 bucks for the changeover parts besides the slug and jug of course.....

 

[Mike Boyer]

Oh yeah, the other thing that I was thinking was there's at least 2 really good outfits that do nikasil replating on 2T cylinders as small as 50cc at least, so I would never chuck a factory 088 or whatever just because you never know...BUT what I really want to know--And I know this is a dumb question, and I'm sure to take a beating for it, but does antone know of a quality ms200 replacement cylinder? I haven't found one in my search attempts--but I may by failing there too...Thanks, mike

 

[Naked Arborist]

sure...

Anyone wanna kick in the sack?

Would you like one in return "Kick me in da Jimmys" "again PLEASE" ROF

 

[Naked Arborist]

Amsoil and E15 @ 250:1

I had the baddest saw in da land for 12 seconds, must be those damn AM parts

 

[Naked Arborist]

All BS aside

I have found one company that sells MS361 AM BB top end kits. I have not ordered one yet hoping just such a thing as this would happen here.

When a supplier who does not work on saws for a living ask for the bad parts back you better PAY ATTENTION folks.

I'd like someone to PM me on where I can get cylinders replated in Nikasil.

Hats off to the OP for doing more about Customer Service and sticking by his stuff no matter what it may be.

I ordered 3 AM top end kits last week and we shall see what is what this week.
They are all from different suppliers and different manufactures, or so I'm told.

IMO quad transfers are why you do not see AM parts for MS361. There is no market for them. I do believe that they run much cool because my 361s can be run leaner than any saw I have ever run period. Light bulb here AM makers ding ding da....

Who agrees that quad transfers are the way to go for a 2smoker?

GOOD battle guys you prove your egos are bigger than your intelligent thinking? working brain, hum...

To the OP, please feel free to send me a parts and price list.
Thanks for your efforts to improve things.

PS Mike I may have that answer for you next week sometime about the 200s.

 

[Dennis Cahoon]

For the record Watsonr......I like the idea you are trying to bring a better product to the chainsaw crowd. I'm tired of the gas you are getting and expressed my opinion and got punished for "stirring the pot". No biggie!...lets move on.
I do have some experience building saws and using saws.....mostly hotsaw nowdays! Plus, I'm a sponsor on the site......Anyway, quality, warranty, and a good price is what I'm looking for. If there's a problem with the quality, then you can fall back on the warranty......Who could ask for something better than that?......and this is what you're trying to do. Great! You are giving us some good options! If I can help you in any way let me know. Thanks Dennis

 

[Mike Boyer]

I'd like someone to PM me on where I can get cylinders replated in Nikasil.

I'll try to pm you the web address--but millennium technologies is tops with snowmobile, quads, etc., Also Powerseal USA is highly regarded. Some others brag about how great they are (the "chrome" guys) and how many they've cranked out, but when you read the sled, bike, outboard forums--well you get a different story.



PS Mike I may have that answer for you next week sometime about the 200s.[/QUOTE]

Thanks

 

[dancan]

For the record Watsonr......I like the idea you are trying to bring a better product to the chainsaw crowd. I'm tired of the gas you are getting and expressed my opinion and got punished for "stirring the pot". No biggie!...lets move on.
I do have some experience building saws and using saws.....mostly hotsaw nowdays! Plus, I'm a sponsor on the site......Anyway, quality, warranty, and a good price is what I'm looking for. If there's a problem with the quality, then you can fall back on the warranty......Who could ask for something better than that?......and this is what you're trying to do. Great! You are giving us some good options! If I can help you in any way let me know. Thanks Dennis

Who is this and what did you do with the real Dennis Cahoon ???











:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Eccentric]

+1000000000000000 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

Who is this and what did you do with the real Dennis Cahoon ???





:hmm3grin2orange:

I agree. This DC seems a bit different...opcorn:

 

[Tzed250]

Must be an alien splinter cell in NorCal...

 

[Eccentric]

Must be an alien splinter cell in NorCal...

I think you're onto something John. It's Invasion of the Logger Snatchers!!!:msp_scared:

 

[blsnelling]

I'd like someone to PM me on where I can get cylinders replated in Nikasil.

I'll try to pm you the web address--but millennium technologies is tops with snowmobile, quads, etc., Also Powerseal USA is highly regarded. Some others brag about how great they are (the "chrome" guys) and how many they've cranked out, but when you read the sled, bike, outboard forums--well you get a different story.



PS Mike I may have that answer for you next week sometime about the 200s.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Millineum will not do the average chainsaw cylinder. They don't do blind cylinders, which accounts for every chainsaw on the market today.

 

[thomas1]

I agree. This DC seems a bit different...opcorn:

He has his opinions and sticks to them, you have to respect a guy that doesn't flip flop all the time, yet can still see both sides of a discussion.