Any Point in Getting Small Pro Saw?

[Paul Bunions]

It took me 6 years to figure out my Echo CS-590, modify it, and turn it into a reliable saw that runs faster than spec. I love it now.

My other homeowner-grade gas saw is a Jonsered/Husqvarna CS2240. It's running well these days. Given my experience with the Echo, I wonder if a similar-sized pro saw would cut faster. Or is it possible to hot rod the Jonsered, which is supposedly a Husqvarna 435?

I don't really need another saw, but I do enjoy new toys.

 

[Patrick62]

We all like new toys. on this website it is called "Chainsaw Acquisition Disorder". No known cure.
the 2240 is a clamshell engine, harder to really hop up, like porting, etc.
Do your research, you might find a comparable pro saw in a decent price range. Find out info on it before you go for it.
It is fun to run a hotter than stock saw.

 

[Paul Bunions]

I have a very good Husqvarna dealer, and the other dealers here are awful. I would want a Husqvarna or, if Echo makes a prosumer saw similar to the CS-590, with a metal case, I would consider it.

The Husqvarna commercial lineup is vast. The CS2240 is about 40 cc's, but it looks like Husqvarna makes a number of 50-cc saws.

It would be nice to have something tough and light, no longer than 16", that really rips and takes mods well. My saw weighs around 10.5 pounds. I wouldn't want to go significantly heavier.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

I would look at the older echo 400 in that range. Not a pro saw but locals love them.

I cant justify them when I run the echo 50cc mag cased saws. Their only mid 10lb range themselves.

One I fixed for local 400. Tree rolled on it.

 

[Paul Bunions]

I just noticed the Echo CS501P. It's lighter than the 543XP.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

I just noticed the Echo CS501P. It's lighter than the 543XP.

Close. But not really. Here is 4910. Why I will run a 50cc echo before one of those.

 

[NSEric]

Either get a 50cc pro saw or a 35-40cc light weight saw.
I find the 50cc saws light enough to use for tiny trees.
I do have a 42cc troy built saw I ported, it's quite light as it's based off a 38cc zenoah saw, it runs pretty good.

 

[Paul Bunions]

Before one of what?

 

[Franny K]

I just noticed the Echo CS501P. It's lighter than the 543XP.

It would probably be kind of hard to find a new 543xp. They discounted them and most likely sold them off at least for this market. As to the point of is there any point in the title. Look at the rear handle 540 mk3. It has two surfaces that are quite flat and ride against the back nicely if a strap is tied around the base of the bar and the rear handle. I can't say how well it takes mods but a guy on youtube shows what he does. I don't do performance mods and think it has a bit much pulsing at idle and compression on pulling on the rope that a modified one to me probably would be undesirable.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

Before one of what?

543 was what you were talking about. 🤷‍♂️

I just noticed the Echo CS501P. It's lighter than the 543XP.

Close. But not really. Here is 4910. Why I will run a 50cc echo before one of those.

 

[Paul Bunions]

Does the 4910 have the same coil as the 501?

 

[Paul Bunions]

It would probably be kind of hard to find a new 543xp. They discounted them and most likely sold them off at least for this market. As to the point of is there any point in the title. Look at the rear handle 540 mk3. It has two surfaces that are quite flat and ride against the back nicely if a strap is tied around the base of the bar and the rear handle. I can't say how well it takes mods but a guy on youtube shows what he does. I don't do performance mods and think it has a bit much pulsing at idle and compression on pulling on the rope that a modified one to me probably would be undesirable.

It looks like I can get 50 cc's in around the same weight as my Jonsered. The 540 is a 39-cc saw, so maybe not a huge upgrade.

The CS-4910 is still out there for $380 with a 16" bar. I wouldn't want a CS-4910 if it had a wimpy coil, though. The CS-501P can be had for $560 with a thin bar, which sounds neat.

Web says the 501 coil is a different part with a higher price.

 

[Paul Bunions]

Interesting thing: the CS4910 comes with a semi-chisel chain instead of full-chisel.

 

[Franny K]

There was a sale on Stihl ms261 last month for $600 so it is kind of hard to chose the cs501 and call it pro. The 501 is a conventional closed port design, is the 490 strato? I thought the intent here was small and pro and an excuse to get it. 50cc is small now.

 

[Paul Bunions]

I don't think anyone makes anything bigger than 50 cc's under 11 pounds. This is for a 16" bar.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

Does the 4910 have the same coil as the 501?

Only difference anyone can find is the spark plug ends are different and why different part numbers. Why so many 4910 turning crazy rpm's too as 501's when ported etc.

The 490 the one before 501 4910 that has the different coil.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

Interesting thing: the CS4910 comes with a semi-chisel chain instead of full-chisel.

No clue about 4910. But 501 came with 20LPX oregon full chisel.

https://www.oregonproducts.com/en/oregon-20lpx-powercut-saw-chain-for-18-in-bar---72-drive-links---fits-echo,-craftsman,-homelite,-poulan,-husqvarna,-makita-and-others/p/20lpx072g

Went and looked and 4910 came with 20BPX. Thats something that is easily changed and use for back up for crap wood cutting.

Whats on my 501 now and only 2nd chain. Still full chisel.

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[Paul Bunions]

I added up all the differences, and it looks like going to the 501P is not a total waste of money. You get the better handle, bar and chain and the captive nuts (a must for me). If I got the 4910, it would cost $90 to replace the bar and chain and add the nuts. But if the 4910 coil is just as good as the 501P's, that makes the 4910 look better.

There is a maniac on Youtube running a 4910 at 17000 RPM. I didn't hear him say anything about changing the coil.

The 501P has some additional little things, like a rubber handle and, for some reason, a hardened, or at least blued, guard plate.

Apples to apples, it looks like the 501P is $550 on the web with a 16" bar, and the 4910 plus a new bar and chain and the nuts is $470. I don't think the rubber grip, aluminum handle, and the weird guard plate are things that would make much of a difference.