Anyone have experience with the Stihl Yard Boss mini tiller?

[Woodie]

Just wanted to let you know that we have a lot more Stihl dealers in Cincinnati than we have Home Depot's and Lowe's. opcorn:

You're not kidding...those things breed like rats...

 

[NuConcepts]

Just wanted to let you know that we have a lot more Stihl dealers in Cincinnati than we have Home Depot's and Lowe's. opcorn:

I meant nationwide for Stihl vs home depot and lowes. As for the dodge trucks red i just used that as an example. I guess your parents just got a lemon like i got a lemon echo product once. Warranties can change your opinion on a product i will agree. Some companies even build products just good enough that they last until the warranty is up. kind of like kia (echo) w/ 6 year 100,000. Others give a warranty like honda (Stihl) when they had their 3 year 36,000. You already know which is the better product, but are you really going to allow another company with a inferior product put your mind at ease just because they have a better warranty. Do you get what im saying?

 

[yungman]

I meant nationwide for Stihl vs home depot and lowes. As for the dodge trucks red i just used that as an example. I guess your parents just got a lemon like i got a lemon echo product once. Warranties can change your opinion on a product i will agree. Some companies even build products just good enough that they last until the warranty is up. kind of like kia (echo) w/ 6 year 100,000. Others give a warranty like honda (Stihl) when they had their 3 year 36,000. You already know which is the better product, but are you really going to allow another company with a inferior product put your mind at ease just because they have a better warranty. Do you get what im saying?

In all do respect, Echo is better than Kia, Stihl saws and 2 cycle products may compare with Honda cars, 4Mix......They can use some confidence building!!!!

 

[NuConcepts]

I just used that for a warranty example and to piss red off i know i don't think nothings as bad as kia except the yugo when it was around, theres nothing wrong with the newer 4 mix

 

[Log Splitter]

Then I can only assume that brand A beleives in their product more, so much more that they are willing to put their money where their mouth is.

No, Red, they are willing to put YOUR money where their mouth is.

The cost of the warranty is included in the purchase price of anything. Some never need the service, some get a new transmission for their Dodge, but in the end the purchase price of the product is inflated to cover the cost of the collective warranty work for the population of products sold.

As far as extended warranties go, the company providing the coverage makes money on them or they would not be offered. The guys that buy them and never have a claim get screwed (or get to feel good since they are covered), and the ones that use them receive a benefit after they receive enough 'warranty' work to cover the cost of the coverage plus any deductible. It works like any other kind of insurance.

I can't believe I read this whole thread. I did not open it for a few days since I don't have a need for a toy tiller, but I got curious after it grew to some many post.

 

[yungman]

No, Red, they are willing to put YOUR money where their mouth is.

The cost of the warranty is included in the purchase price of anything. Some never need the service, some get a new transmission for their Dodge, but in the end the purchase price of the product is inflated to cover the cost of the collective warranty work for the population of products sold.

As far as extended warranties go, the company providing the coverage makes money on them or they would not be offered. The guys that buy them and never have a claim get screwed (or get to feel good since they are covered), and the ones that use them receive a benefit after they receive enough 'warranty' work to cover the cost of the coverage plus any deductible. It works like any other kind of insurance.

I can't believe I read this whole thread. I did not open it for a few days since I don't have a need for a toy tiller, but I got curious after it grew to some many post.

This thread has not been about the little tiller for a long time already! Both me and the little tiller had to take a hike a while back already!!!:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[NuConcepts]

so what mini tiller are you partial too after reading this whole thread?

 

[yungman]

so what mini tiller are you partial too after reading this whole thread?

That's a good one, I enjoy reading this so much that I forgot to even think about it anymore!!! If all else is so close, I am leaning towards Mantis 4 cycles just mainly because it is quietest. I think Honda 25cc will be close to the Stihl 27cc in power....hopefully. Only thing I miss about Yard Boss is the broom attachment though, I still need to sit on this one.

But don't worry about me here, I am enjoying myself reading all this!!!:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Kogafortwo]

I still want to hear about how the bloom attachment works! (See first post in this thread).


Hey Yungman, I use my neighbor's old Mantis that I had to clean up and rebuild the carb on. I like it just fine.

And for anyone who says they don't need a mini-tiller, just get one and start finding uses for it. It's like a blower - you'll find a 100 things it's good for that you never thought of.

 

[yungman]

its a two ring piston on the stihl, you can't compare four strokes and two strokes. If you want the machine in a two stroke get the stihl vs the mantis with the echo motor i had one and the rod bearing seized out of no where and i had the right mix in the pos. The stihl will have more torque. I've used all three. I personally like the Honda mini tiller it didn't seem to have no problems what so ever and was responsive and durable being a 4 stroke. It revved until my heart was content and if home depot rents them i think its a mantis and it has a Honda motor on it believe me they take abuse and hold up. As for the stihl i have a fs 45 weed wacker which is the same motor on the tiller that i beat the hell out of for 3 seasons straight. It has never failed to start and produces alot of torque for a 27.2 cc motor.Besides that parts are easy to get for it, if i ever need them. so it all depends on your opinion in the end if your a four stroke guy or a 2 stroke guy. hope this helps

I agree, my option now is really between 4 cycle Mantis or 2 cycle Yard Boss. Anyone use the Homescaper engine equipment for commercial use? I know Stihl 2 cycle is very good, but is it fare to compare to Honda GX25 being ground up as commercial engine. Am I asking too much on the Homescaper engine. Too bad Stihl don't put the FS85 engine into the YardBoss, I won't even post this if they have the commercial engine!!!!

Anyone have the parts diagram of the Stihl engine that can post for me?

Thanks

 

[NuConcepts]

i'll try to get you a break down but let me put it this way look at all the pro's well at least round that have the regular stihl leaf blowers like the bg55 and bg 85s. they seem to last. thats the same motor on the stihl yard boss. My trimmer motor seems to hold up with the same motor. but then i know a two people that had catastrophic failures with theres. i think it was because they like running the cheapest oil they can by for the mix though.I kind of like the honda just because of their motors but i just don't like the idea of checking and changing the oil. I guess im lazy

 

[Lakeside53]

Too bad Stihl don't put the FS85 engine into the YardBoss, I won't even post this if they have the commercial engine!!!!

Anyone have the parts diagram of the Stihl engine that can post for me?

Thanks

Groan... Commercial? that's "echo speak". The MM55 is basically the same engine as FS85... Physically different but identical construction and materials... They even use the same rings and bearings. Ignore what you hear as rumors on the other sites...

 

[yungman]

Groan... Commercial? that's "echo speak". The MM55 is basically the same engine as FS85... Physically different but identical construction and materials... They even use the same rings and bearings. Ignore what you hear as rumors on the other sites...

What do you mean??!!! That is exciting to hear!! Do you mean the internal components are same as in FS85? The cylinder, crankcase, piston and cranksheft are of same material? Why there is a difference in power?

I did not hear anything bad from anywhere about the engine, I just read in Stihl catalog that it is the Homescaper engine, that is the reason why I assume it is only a consumer grade engine. I did read some people use the Homescaper trimmers commercially and complain when they don't last!!! They did not say the engine were the problem, it could be anything.

Do you have the parts diagram?

Anyone know how loud of this compare with Honda?

Thanks

 

[Lakeside53]

Yes.. and the piston is the same as used in the BG85.

 

[yungman]

Yes.. and the piston this the same as used in the BG85.

THanks

 

[pgg]

Extended warranties mean nothing, warranties are just behind the scenes hustling and number-crunching from the paper-shufflers and wideboys, based on dollar values, flow charts, the economy, interest rates and god knows what else. Any shifty roguing outfit can throw a longer warranty on a cheapo nasty product, it's all been number crunched and factored in by the marketing wizards.

Guys like me, doomed to be stuck swinging on chainsaws for a crust, we don't give a rats a$$ about warranties, me and plenty of others can't be f***d going thru all the dramas of claims, counterclaims, filling in forms and all the rest of the BS involved with buying cheap. Meanwhile I'm on my a$$ with a knackered saw losin' money. All I want is the best available machine you can get, in the real world money is the bottom line, if you want the best you gotta dish out the dollars, regardless of long warranties, short warranties or whatever.

The product earns it's reputation out in the field, talking stihls, huskys, dolmars here. Gimmicks and fancy deals are never genuine, it's con-artist territory, eg.. "Here's a super-duper deal, it's only HALF PRICE and it's got a LONGER WARRANTY!" Yeah right... there's a fool born every second..

 

[yungman]

Extended warranties mean nothing, warranties are just behind the scenes hustling and number-crunching from the paper-shufflers and wideboys, based on dollar values, flow charts, the economy, interest rates and god knows what else. Any shifty roguing outfit can throw a longer warranty on a cheapo nasty product, it's all been number crunched and factored in by the marketing wizards.

Guys like me, doomed to be stuck swinging on chainsaws for a crust, we don't give a rats a$$ about warranties, me and plenty of others can't be f***d going thru all the dramas of claims, counterclaims, filling in forms and all the rest of the BS involved with buying cheap. Meanwhile I'm on my a$$ with a knackered saw losin' money. All I want is the best available machine you can get, in the real world money is the bottom line, if you want the best you gotta dish out the dollars, regardless of long warranties, short warranties or whatever.

The product earns it's reputation out in the field, talking stihls, huskys, dolmars here. Gimmicks and fancy deals are never genuine, it's con-artist territory, eg.. "Here's a super-duper deal, it's only HALF PRICE and it's got a LONGER WARRANTY!" Yeah right... there's a fool born every second..

I agree, as I stated in the post before. When your lifelyhood depends on it, time is money, no warrentee can compensate the lost of the tool.

I also see on the consumer side though, as I stated, we can wait, it is not life and death for us, so extended warrentee is attractive. It work both ways. I think both side is right.

Also another point is, we also talk about equipments other than chain saw too. I think nobody even question Stihl on chain saw ( no idea of Husky or Dolmars). On other equipments like string trimmers, blowers and hedge trimmers, there are other that are good too. For example Echo trimmers have a better chance comparing with Stihl trimmer than Echo saws with Stihl saw. Redmax is famous for their blowers etc. I think it is more important to compare apple to apple. I guess in this forum, it is about saw so I can understand. Stihl is the one!!!

I think if people take into consideration of comparing apple to apple, their will be less arguments. But then it won't be that interesting!!:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

I have to say I enjoy this thread!!

 

[Erick]

Goob, I believe your post’s were relevant on both threads and would think your opinion on the subject would be valued on both treads as well.

Space, I don't see how his post's could be construed as Spam, he was not trying to sell anything and was not trying to disrupt the tread, he was merely giving first hand experience that directly related to the subject, I thought that's what this forum was about???