Anyone have experience with the Stihl Yard Boss mini tiller?

[RED-85-Z51]

yeah just because they say that the echo has a 21.2 commercial grade motor doesn't mean it is commerical. That home owner stihl will out run that echo any way. As for the stihl tines not being guaranteed for life.Thats because the cost of replacement tines for the mantis are already built into the price on the initial purchase. Ok i'll end it for mr. Whiskey
Tango
Foxtrot

this whole thread is opinionated. did you have to use the word TANGO

durrr...

All ECHO built powerheads are built to commercial standards, The homeowner level Stihl motor will be long burnt up by the time the Echo is ready for it's first carb overhaul.

How can you figure the cost of replacement tines are built into the price of the mantis? I gotta ask...did it hurt when you pulled that statement out of your azz?

 

[chowdozer]

Night All

Have a good night's sleep. I gotta catch a plane tomorrow so it's light's out for me too.

 

[Woodie]

Woodie, go to an Echo/Stihl dealer and try to bend the tines. If you can't bend the tines with one hand on the Mantis then I guess you are a little girl.
Let me know, okay Louise.

Your knowledge of metallurgy is not high, is it, sawitall?

Since when would rigidity/ductility be an indicator of longevity? As a general rule, the more rigid the steel/iron, the more brittle. Ever wonder why decent modern woodworking planes are made of ductile iron instead of gray? I'll give you a hint...drop an old Stanley on the concrete...

 

[04ultra]

I gotta look tomorrow .....I think we still have a broken mantis in the shed....

 

[Woodie]

Goodnight, gentlemen...I'm off to bed as well.

It was a pleasure whoppin you all this evening!

 

[04ultra]

Goodnight, gentlemen...I'm off to bed as well.

It was a pleasure whoppin you all this evening!

THALL kicks your butt all the time.............




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[NuConcepts]

Well before i go to bed i'll answer that question for you.I'll put it in these terms when you go to a free hotel and it says free internet its actually built into the price already. When its comes to costs for Mantis like most other companies. When they are adding a extra benefit to the consumer . They most likely already charged you in the initial price or they make up for it in shipping. I never said their tines were garbage, but they say free replacement as a marketing scheme. Its a selling point for them. so to compensate for every set of tines that break (everything breaks sooner or later regardless). they will not be losing money because they have already worked that amount out for replacement in the cost of the tiller already.I'll try to defend the homeowner stihl tomorrow. nite

 

[yungman]

This is like arguing whether Minnesota or Wisconsin has bigger mosquitos...


All machines in these classes are pathetic toys for toy gardeners. Get real.

How come someone hasn't said "buy the SOLO version". I have one at work looking for a home..

That little thing may be more useful than you think!! Watch the video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qU7kUDcOhiU

Of course, it will not replace the real thing, but for less than 30lb and you can fit in the back of your truck and pull it out with one hand. It can be handy. It has it's row, goes where no he man tiller can go!!!!! Just like a little bug!!!!:hmm3grin2orange:

I'll leave it to the expert to argue about which one is the best and I'll get that one:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

I don't think I can stop the fights so I am just going to enjoy. You have one!!! throw my way!!!

 

[04ultra]

I've had a mantis for about 12 years now. It's a great machine for cultivating.

I till the main garden(corn and melons) with a 25 year old Troy bilt Horse.

The 750sq. ft. of raised vegetable beds are done by hand.

Long live the Horse!!!!!!!!!!!





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[RED-85-Z51]

Yeah...weak motors..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QMF255e0NzY&feature=related

 

[treeclimber jul]

Cat and dog name calling fight

I have a mantis in our shed and it dose not work, It worked for a little while but never ran very good. Never used a stihl so can't say anything about it.
I can say that the Mantis is NOT what its cracked up to be

 

[spacemule]

You know as well as I that if it is a true warranty it will occur in a very short period of time. The purpose of the Echo 5yr was to appease Home Depot.

If that's the case, then why does Stihl not have a decent warranty time period? After all, the only warranty work, according to you, happens quickly.

 

[Pissfirwillie]

The "Tomato" farmers around here swear by the Mantis tillers. I didn't even know Stihl made a little tiller. If Stihl makes anything, you better assume they put the engineering into it. I think most would agree that Stihl always tries to improve on designs over time.

 

[yungman]

You guys are a hoot.

I have a Stihl mini-tiller, and it works. I have nothing bad to say about the Mantis, except that two local dealers carry them, keep one in stock, but were both more enthusiastic about Stihl and Honda.

Besides, the original poster was asking if a mini-tiller would double as an aerator. I doubt if that's the same as picking a fight.

I only walk away for 2 hours and come back to find out 3 more pages of name calling!!!! Yes, I just asked a very innocent question!!!

I am just reading all this to get a good laugh:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Lakeside53]

If that's the case, then why does Stihl not have a decent warranty time period? After all, the only warranty work, according to you, happens quickly.

Because they don't need it? less then 1 claim per 1000 units, and most of those are tiny issues that occur early in usage. And I doubt Husky or Echo rates are any differnet.


Like with many products, the lower market share brand offer the "best warranties".. because that's all they can offer to the uninformed to differentiate themselves. Ever looked at S O N Y warranties?

 

[spacemule]

Because they don't need it? less then 1 claim per 1000 units, and most of those are tiny issues that occur early in usage. And I doubt Husky or Echo rates are any differnet.


Like with many products, the lower market share brand offer the "best warranties".. because that's all they can offer to the uninformed to differentiate themselves. Ever looked at ####s warranties?

You're not directly answering. If all warranty claims happen early on, why does Stihl have a short warranty? It shouldn't make a difference.

The fact that they can still sell with a crappy warranty is irrelevant if extending the warranty won't make a difference in claims. If, however, it will make a different in claims, then just mow's statement is wrong. Do you follow?

 

[Lakeside53]

NMope.. your arguement is weak, at best Stihl doesn't need it to sell their product - the reputation sells it. If Stihl thought they lost material sales to echo because of it, the'yd go for 5, then echo would have to go for 10...


1 and 2 years (homowners) isn't a short warranty... pro's could care less.


I think I've had 3 customers on the past 3 years that asked about the warranty... Outside of AS, nobody seems to care!

 

[spacemule]

NMope.. your arguement is weak, at best Stihl doesn't need it to sell their product - the reputation sells it. If Stihl thought they lost material sales to echo because of it, the'yd go for 5, then echo would have to go for 10...


1 and 2 years (homowners) isn't a short warranty... pro's could care less.


I think I've had 3 customers on the past 3 years that asked about the warranty... Outside of AS, nobody seems to care!

So, once again, if it makes no difference, why not offer it? The only logical answer is it does make a difference.

 

[Lakeside53]

Because my dear friend, they would look as silly as the others then! It actually sets a false expection in the minds of the consumer that the dealer has to "deal with" - "hey, my damn saw is only three years old and it won't start (because I left gas in it for a year or so)!" etc etc.. Hang around an Echo service counter in the spring as listen to the techs tell them "that's not covered".

Why don't you email Stihl and ask them?



And, if by some remote chance you were right, and it does matter, how come they own the pro market?? opcorn: oh, that's right, the pro's don't care... because they are informed

 

[spacemule]

Because my dear friend, they would look as silly as the others then! It actually sets a false expection in the minds of the consumer that the dealer has to "deal with" - "hey, my damn saw is only three years old and it won't start (because I left gas in it for a year or so)!" etc etc.. Hang around an Echo service counter in the spring as listen to the techs tell them "that's not covered".

So, what you're saying is that Stihl doesn't give a comparable warranty because they don't want to turn down claims, right?