best chipper size with bmg grapple?

[mattfr12]

our baby, very capable but at 15k lbs. 200 hp cummins. 2900 hrs will take anything you stuff into it. hyd. chute and bonnet movement, 16' chip box great set up. Like said you better get a bigger box if you don't have one you waste chipper's capacity saving time by always running to dump.

i actually like the bc2000 only one they seem to put thr hp in. i wish the still made them with the loader arm.between the 1800 and 2000 it has to be night and day difference 85 hp is alot for only 2" compacity difference. like a ferrari vs a power wheels.

 

[tree MDS]

And mine is a side by side tire set up, not dual axel

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Damn dude, that's a nice chipper! Too bad it does't have a winch though (you could always put one on).

300 hours? what year is it? How much$$?

 

[ducaticorse]

Damn dude, that's a nice chipper! Too bad it does't have a winch though (you could always put one on).

300 hours? what year is it? How much$$?

Thanks I can't wait to go pick it up. i'll be putting a factory winch on it to to the tune of close to $3K give or take....:msp_w00t:

It is a 99 left over on the certificate of origin, (never registered), originaly bought and owned by a heavy construction company. They used it for one large project, and basically shelved it afterwards. I bought it from the owner of the company for $17500. The pics shown are the ones I took, it's in spectacular shape. Just needs a good cleaning. ITS HUGE.

 

[mattfr12]

Thanks I can't wait to go pick it up. i'll be putting a factory winch on it to to the tune of close to $3K give or take....:msp_w00t:

It is a 99 left over on the certificate of origin, (never registered), originaly bought and owned by a heavy construction company. They used it for one large project, and basically shelved it afterwards. I bought it from the owner of the company for $17500. The pics shown are the ones I took, it's in spectacular shape. Just needs a good cleaning. ITS HUGE.

ya it cost me 3k to put a winch on my bandit. if you can do the hydralics yourself you can save a few $$.

 

[tree MDS]

Thanks I can't wait to go pick it up. i'll be putting a factory winch on it to to the tune of close to $3K give or take....:msp_w00t:

It is a 99 left over on the certificate of origin, (never registered), originaly bought and owned by a heavy construction company. They used it for one large project, and basically shelved it afterwards. I bought it from the owner of the company for $17500. The pics shown are the ones I took, it's in spectacular shape. Just needs a good cleaning. ITS HUGE.

Nice. Are the older 1890's a little smaller than the new ones? I know the 1590's are bigger now than they were back then.

What kind of motor is that beast running?

That one has the winch mount already on it?

 

[ducaticorse]

Nice. Are the older 1890's a little smaller than the new ones? I know the 1590's are bigger now than they were back then.

What kind of motor is that beast running?

That one has the winch mount already on it?

I don't know off hand the specs for a comparible new 1890HD with my motor package, but I know they are similar in regard to performance.. I think my particular unit is actually a tad better built, (steel was much cheaper 10 years ago) and it also is the HD package. I do know in 2011 they are close to $70K optioned out. I think the selling price for my machine in 1999 was just under $50K) They are all "tiered" now. A 200HP tier now is about $20K + for the motor alone. My machine has the 200HP JD turbo diesel. This unit I picked up, is bsically new. I called "cleeves co" in Needham MA and asked what the machine was worth in the condition it is in, they said between 24-26K.

The winch mount plate is not on the machine.

 

[tree MDS]

I don't know off hand the specs for a comparible new 1890HD with my motor package, but I know they are similar in regard to performance.. I think my particular unit is actually a tad better built, (steel was much cheaper 10 years ago) and it also is the HD package. I do know in 2011 they are close to $70K optioned out. I think the selling price for my machine in 1999 was just under $50K) They are all "tiered" now. A 200HP tier now is about $20K + for the motor alone. My machine has the 200HP JD turbo diesel. This unit I picked up, is bsically new. I called "cleeves co" in Needham MA and asked what the machine was worth in the condition it is in, they said between 24-26K.

The winch mount plate is not on the machine.

You stole that thing for sure! Especially with the JD. I know a 140hp deere engine was over 13k like six or seven years ago. Couldn't ask for a better deal.

Winch plate is no big deal to have fabbed up, I'm sure.

 

[mattfr12]

john deere is what i put in all mine you cant go wrong ive never had to replace anything yet on any of them some are close to 3k in hours. only thing i put in any of them is a clutch and oil. other than that they will take abuse. i run 12" or bigger through my 250 alot and it takes it like a champ. the 1890 is exactly what im going after. i cant find a woodsman to look at or even demo. no way would i buy before i try. vermeer wouldnt even show me an 1800 or 2000 i tried to rent an 1800 to try it no can do they say.

bandit let me use it for almost a week.

 

[ducaticorse]

john deere is what i put in all mine you cant go wrong ive never had to replace anything yet on any of them some are close to 3k in hours. only thing i put in any of them is a clutch and oil. other than that they will take abuse. i run 12" or bigger through my 250 alot and it takes it like a champ. the 1890 is exactly what im going after. i cant find a woodsman to look at or even demo. no way would i buy before i try. vermeer wouldnt even show me an 1800 or 2000 i tried to rent an 1800 to try it no can do they say.

bandit let me use it for almost a week.

It is of my opinion that woodsmans are pretty close in comparison to bandits. Marqui and Mayer have big ones where I'm from with the loader arms.

I'm pumped for the upgrade, and production power. I got a "new to me" bobcat 453 a few weeks ago, and am looking forward to seeing how much faster I can clear a job site now.... $$$$$$$$$$

 

[Rholmes]

when it comes to chipping its hard to beat woodsman,those things rip.make sure you own a welder haha they tend to beat themselves apart...at least the older ones,maybe they worked the kinks out.but they have less moving parts.they have a single massive feed wheel that basically acts as a crushing mechanism more than anything.they also put the feed wheel closer to the drum for more efficient chipping,(it doesnt give the material a chance to get bound up or go into the knives at a akward angle,the feed wheel crushes the material and then moves iit directly into the drum). morbark and bandit are about the same nowaday..morbark is built a little heavier duty than bandit in my opinion.cant go wrong with a deere though. we got a old bandit 250 that doesnt get used much anymore but it has the jd 140 in it with over
6k hours on it. water pump and a radiator over the past ten years...not bad.

 

[Toddppm]

vermeer wouldnt even show me an 1800 or 2000 i tried to rent an 1800 to try it no can do they say.

bandit let me use it for almost a week.

Funny isn't it? They did the same thing to me, made the decision easy to buy another Bandit.

 

[ducaticorse]

when it comes to chipping its hard to beat woodsman,those things rip.make sure you own a welder haha they tend to beat themselves apart...at least the older ones,maybe they worked the kinks out.but they have less moving parts.they have a single massive feed wheel that basically acts as a crushing mechanism more than anything.they also put the feed wheel closer to the drum for more efficient chipping,(it doesnt give the material a chance to get bound up or go into the knives at a akward angle,the feed wheel crushes the material and then moves iit directly into the drum). morbark and bandit are about the same nowaday..morbark is built a little heavier duty than bandit in my opinion.cant go wrong with a deere though. we got a old bandit 250 that doesnt get used much anymore but it has the jd 140 in it with over
6k hours on it. water pump and a radiator over the past ten years...not bad.

The only thing I'm not too fond of in the woodsman is the single roller wheel, although I've never done a side by side comparison. I think all chippers over time tend to bust welds, kinda par for the course. My B150 has welds all over it lol. Do you have a repair shop? You seem to have a good working knowledge on equipment in general.

 

[oldirty]

It is of my opinion that woodsmans are pretty close in comparison to bandits. Marqui and Mayer have big ones where I'm from with the loader arms.

I'm pumped for the upgrade, and production power. I got a "new to me" bobcat 453 a few weeks ago, and am looking forward to seeing how much faster I can clear a job site now.... $$$$$$$$$$

there is no comparison.

i've used and fed a bandit grapple and everyday work with the woodsman. the woodsman grapple machine has a better setup for the operator station and grapple storage. the woodsman may not throw chips through the chip truck but it does fill it....

overall the woodsman is a better machine but i wouldn't kick the bandit out of bed.

that said you boys never seen at the business end of a machine do what the woodsman does. unreal.

 

[ducaticorse]

there is no comparison.

i've used and fed a bandit grapple and everyday work with the woodsman. the woodsman grapple machine has a better setup for the operator station and grapple storage. the woodsman may not throw chips through the chip truck but it does fill it....

overall the woodsman is a better machine but i wouldn't kick the bandit out of bed.

that said you boys never seen at the business end of a machine do what the woodsman does. unreal.

I've never used either company's grapple set ups, so I wouldn't be able to comment. But I will take your word for it. I know you've used the woodsman at least.

 

[oldirty]

The only thing I'm not too fond of in the woodsman is the single roller wheel.

this is the reason why the woodsman is a far superior chipping machine to any other model out there.

 

[ducaticorse]

this is the reason why the woodsman is a far superior chipping machine to any other model out there.

Why is that?

 

[TreEmergencyB]

this is the reason why the woodsman is a far superior chipping machine to any other model out there.

really?

Ive never used grapple fed chippers but, the 4 companies i worked for 2 had vermeer 935's and 2 had bandit 250xp, for a hand fed chipper i hate the single wheel. I could see when being forced by the grapple the single wheel might roll over logs better.

 

[ducaticorse]

really?

Ive never used grapple fed chippers but, the 4 companies i worked for 2 had vermeer 935's and 2 had bandit 250xp, for a hand fed chipper i hate the single wheel. I could see when being forced by the grapple the single wheel might roll over logs better.

I was just going to make the same point, hand fed vs machine fed. I believe a dual wheel set up is superior when hand feeding as well, especially in the wet.

 

[cory nicols]

I have a bandit 250x and also a woodsman 18x. Love my bandit, good and reliable. I upgraded because my bandit has a winch which is GREAT but half the time it would not eat what i would winch into it. The feed rollers like to spin on spruce branches or any wide crotches, other than that a great chipping machine. A friend of mine bought an 18x and when i saw it pull a 17 inch 30ft full spruce top in i said WOW i need one! The large aggressive feed wheel rolls over branches better because of the larger diameter, and the feed table is short and wide, it's like BAM theres the feed wheel. On the negative... my 18x has 1200 hrs and needs a little tlc from some poor build quality. Customer service is not as strong as what i've had at bandit also. That being said though, I wanted a chipper that would pull in what it was capable of eating, the Bandit struggles, Woodsman does great.

 

[ducaticorse]

I have a bandit 250x and also a woodsman 18x. Love my bandit, good and reliable. I upgraded because my bandit has a winch which is GREAT but half the time it would not eat what i would winch into it. The feed rollers like to spin on spruce branches or any wide crotches, other than that a great chipping machine. A friend of mine bought an 18x and when i saw it pull a 17 inch 30ft full spruce top in i said WOW i need one! The large aggressive feed wheel rolls over branches better because of the larger diameter, and the feed table is short and wide, it's like BAM theres the feed wheel. On the negative... my 18x has 1200 hrs and needs a little tlc from some poor build quality. Customer service is not as strong as what i've had at bandit also. That being said though, I wanted a chipper that would pull in what it was capable of eating, the Bandit struggles, Woodsman does great.

Good info, but you're comparing a 12 inch Bandit chipper to a 18 inch Woodsman chipper, or did I miss something?