Brits talkin about Brit stuff

[iain]

I think we need to get an organization up and running soon !!!

behind the scenes stuff is going on, more later



if your call to the council falls on deaf ears, the councils own chief executive( is the individual held accountable/answerable in law) you may tell he/she something new :Eye:
, alternativly a phone call to the office of the deputy prime minister or the home secretary's office may get more action :angel:

good on ya

 

[Ross Turner]

This is an employment vacancy for Dudley,
Dudley Metropolitan Borough Council

Description:
Directorate of The Urban
Environment
GREEN CARE
Chargehand Arborist
£230.48 per week + £93.51 weekly bonus (37 hours weekly - bonus under
review)

You should have at least 12 months' experience of commercial or local
authority practical arboricultural work with 6 months' supervisory
experience. You must hold NPTC Certification in the use of chainsaws,
climbing, felling and dismantling and aerial rescue.

ISA Certified Arborist or equivalent would be preferred. However a
commitment to undertake training and successfully complete the ISA Certified
Arborist Course would be required, within 6 months.

In addition a full driving licence is required, you should have passed your
test prior to 31 December 1996 or have C1 + E entitlement or be willing to
undertake training and successfully complete C1 + E entitlement within 6
months.

You must have the ability to communicate at all levels, work to deadlines
and targets, interpret work schedules and follow contract documentation. You
will be expected to supervise a team of 2 or 3 tree surgeons.

Informal enquiries to Matt Vaughan on 01384 815524.





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[Ross Turner]

they dont give you long to gain the ISA cert arb do they.
Iain,im up in county durham(Spennymoor & Darlington) this weekend seeing family.

 

[iain]

nice one ross have a good weekend pruners from darlo' im in cleveland nearer to the coast

 

[Thor's Hammer]

The pay on that jobs a bit crap is'nt it? is that take home or before tax?

 

[blue]

i'd say it's before deductions,i'd have to be pretty desperate to go for that job.and if thats what a chargehand earns what is the pay for climbers?

 

[Ross Turner]

Iain,I know pruner1 is from Darlo,i know a couple of the lads he works with as i worked with them back in 89 when i first started out on a YT but due to injury was kicked off the scheme.
The wages for the charge hands job is crap but you tell me a council that pays good money.
If anyone is looking for work in the Bucks or Beds area i believe Frosts are advertising for climbers etc,The Arb manager is ok i have worked for him before.

 

[iain]

ross
i wasn't sure if you knew pruner or not , do you know if he got the job he ws after ?

 

[PRUNER 1]

hello, no news yet as the posting date wa sonly wednesday so itll be a while yet. ross, wots it like to be bak in the good old north east? not too grim eh! not. that council in dudley seems to be goin rate. as a chargehand this week i took home 240! its only a tenner a week more for a chargehand than a climber. its about 30 quid a week more than a private company i worked for as a chargehand take home. less hours too! and no travelling!

 

[Ross Turner]

Pruner,Weather not too bad up to now,Nice to be back after a 2 years but glad its only a weekend.We have a lad working with us & he only has CS 30,31 & hes on £50 a day,Im on £75 which i think is crap for the work we do(utility) but at least its a job,would love to get back into normal arb.

 

[PRUNER 1]

ule have tax to take off that aswell tho eh? any one know how to get on the isa website ime havin trouble with it. i want to get the climbing comp reg off it cos ime thinkin about doin a few comps. any ideas?

 

[Ross Turner]

Yeh worst luck but still clear £1,200 per month if not more.
Had a great time in the Good old north east,Darlo is looking a bit grimy these days i think(lol).

 

[Liston]

umm tenders

Reading your posts on tenders and the tender for AA approved contractors only.
I've had a lot of experance with tenders and have found the you should still apply for the tender even if you don't meet the given spec on the ad or paper work.
If you can service the tender then put infor it. I have seen many tenders for chippers ,grinders etc been won from machines that are not to the sec of the writen tender .
what is needed is for the applicant is to show that your service or product is best value if not to the tender ad.
I can't tell you how many hours i've spent filling in paper work for tenders only to be beaten by lesser machines for more money So pitch your stall out and read between the lines I have also seen tenders rewitten to another spec or service which they are allowed to do and with draw the old tender.

Good luck.

 

[iain]

Reading your posts on tenders and the tender for AA approved contractors only.
I've had a lot of experance with tenders and have found the you should still apply for the tender even if you don't meet the given spec on the ad or paper work.
If you can service the tender then put infor it. I have seen many tenders for chippers ,grinders etc been won from machines that are not to the sec of the writen tender .
what is needed is for the applicant is to show that your service or product is best value if not to the tender ad.
I can't tell you how many hours i've spent filling in paper work for tenders only to be beaten by lesser machines for more money So pitch your stall out and read between the lines I have also seen tenders rewitten to another spec or service which they are allowed to do and with draw the old tender.

Good luck.

Dave

i feel that most of the guys already appreicate the point that you make the point i and rolla were making is that a government department should know better than too discriminate in the first place
regards
iain

 

[jamie]

pay

ok dont seemt aht im as badly payed as i once thought. getting 250 before deductions. i applied for a job as a trainnee arboprist with edinburgh council £130 a week, they were looking for no exp but i couldnt live on that wage. the council arb squads hate chippers. as chippers mean they have to be outside all day where as loading it into the back of a tranny means they have to drive away earlier to top....more time on asses...

jamie

 

[Liston]

tenders

Thanks Iain

The problem I found is that a lot of tenders are writen by persons not up to the job and take copy from other tenders around the country So they think that AA certed must be the way to go as the other tender had it in it or they just read about it in so council publication .
Tenders it seams are not written from scratch and not always by poeple who know what they are talking about.

Like you say
Jobs for the boys.

 

[ROLLACOSTA]

very true Liston [above post]

 

[Thor's Hammer]

Thanks Iain

The problem I found is that a lot of tenders are writen by persons not up to the job and take copy from other tenders around the country So they think that AA certed must be the way to go as the other tender had it in it or they just read about it in so council publication .
Tenders it seams are not written from scratch and not always by poeple who know what they are talking about.

Like you say
Jobs for the boys.

A lot of tender request are generic, with a lot of useless blurb shoved in to cover any eventuality. I have been asked to give copies of streetworks/signing license for woodland work, spraying certs on felling work, felling certs on strimming work etc. etc.

 

[Liston]

New mag

Good news for the UK arborist. A new mag just for you guys and girls is going to be launched this September. I think you will b eable to air some of the points you have made in this forum.
I'll keep you posted.

 

[iain]

new mag
lets hope it doesnt get hijacked by the usual cronies
same old people spouting the same opinion from the same perspective,
lets hope we have guys talking from the independants point of view, equipment trailing / testing done by the right kind of outfit . not some suit who can't remember the last time he got his chainsaw gear on n got sweaty.