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I've been told people like to take credit for porting and builds they never did.

I don't think Eric ever took credit for Cliffs 3120, the first time I ever met him he told me Cliff built it. Do I think Eric could build a 3120 or 3140 of his own...yup I sure do!
 
Rick... has he ever claimed Cliffs work as his own?

What happened to the other site?
 
I was never aware of who built that 3120. I don't think it ever came up in conversation before.


But the word out there says Cliff Helsel builds the nastiest 3120 you can get yer hands on. I didn't get to run Nate's but I stood right next to him when he ran it a few times over a year and a half ago at his place. I'm so not ready for a saw like that. Way too much power for me to control I think. I'd prolly lose control of it real quick. Loud as hell and my god was that thing ever fast.....
 
Man I can't believe the amount of BS that goes on with saw building, someone always trying to stick a knife in someone's elses back. Disgusting.

Hey! I don't believe it is a real knife. These guys are friends.
 
I'm so not ready for a saw like that. Way too much power for me to control I think. I'd prolly lose control of it real quick. Loud as hell and my god was that thing ever fast.....

Yeah there has been people that sold them for that reason. I have never ran one either but I wouldn't say no to the chance:hmm3grin2orange:
 
I don't think Eric ever took credit for Cliffs 3120, the first time I ever met him he told me Cliff built it. Do I think Eric could build a 3120 or 3140 of his own...yup I sure do!


He could build it and it would be
his. Yup!!!! Would it run ??
Would it??
 
I've seen his 5 cube cut .6's first hand. I was running the watch right there as it was happening. I think it would run!
 
Hey we are on Treemonkeys thread.
So if it's ok with him we can clear the
air right there. .6 hmm somthing don't
add up!! That would be about 2.10 - 2.25
On 3 cuts with the switches then 1 sec
for the cold start that would put him at
about 3.20?? So what's up I think that
is where the top 2 were at Chardon last
year!! Explain the mid 5s
 
Hey we are on Treemonkeys thread.
So if it's ok with him we can clear the
air right there. .6 hmm somthing don't
add up!! That would be about 2.10 - 2.25
On 3 cuts with the switches then 1 sec
for the cold start that would put him at
about 3.20?? So what's up I think that
is where the top 2 were at Chardon last
year!! Explain the mid 5s

Gee Rick your family races I'm sure you understand missing the upcut or not getting the saw to the wood in that magical second or any of the other things that can and go wrong from the time the guys GO. All I'm saying is that I have personally timed that saw cutting in the .6's in a one cut. If you want to call me a liar so be it don't beat around the bush about it.

No offense to Eric but I'm sure if Jay or Phil was running that saw it would have done well.


If I'm remembering correctly... I think Brent won the 5 cube muffler class at Chardon last year running Eric's 5...
 
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Yep Brent won that class. Brent is a great
guy and a very good operator. That is
tough show. So I know the guy that bought
That fast 5 and so do you. In fact you was
the one that told me. He is about as happy
as George !!!!!!
 
Yep Brent won that class. Brent is a great
guy and a very good operator. That is
tough show. So I know the guy that bought
That fast 5 and so do you. In fact you was
the one that told me. He is about as happy
as George !!!!!!

Everyone I met at Chardon was super nice. There is a good group of guys that do this stuff for sure. I always enjoyed talking with Jay and Phil real down to earth guys! Brent is super smooth and as far as the new owner of that saw I don't think he was forced to buy it if he wasn't happy with it...something isn't jiving there. Why would a guy buy the saw if it wasn't up to par?
 
I really need to get to Chardon to see some of these saws run (and see the operators - they've gotta be impressive).


Just to be a a spectator/sideliner sounds like it'd be fun as hell.


Lotta 'fast' stuff here in NY but it sounds like Chardon brings a ton of fast stuff to the table that would just about stomp anything anywhere else.....
 
Everyone I met at Chardon was super nice. There is a good group of guys that do this stuff for sure. I always enjoyed talking with Jay and Phil real down to earth guys! Brent is super smooth and as far as the new owner of that saw I don't think he was forced to buy it if he wasn't happy with it...something isn't jiving there. Why would a guy buy the saw if it wasn't up to par?

well considering the man that bought the saw wasn't there. An the one selling it blowed smoke rings up his you know what!!!!! so does that answer your question? (Why would a guy buy the saw if it wasn't up to par?)

An the same reason a guy in california bought a saw an sent it back three times and finnally said for get it!!! he was told the same speech but in the end all he got was a polished and port turd!!!

Later Troy
 
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well considering the man that bought the saw wasn't there. An the one selling it blowed smoke rings up his you know what!!!!! so does that answer your question? (Why would a guy buy the saw if it wasn't up to par?)

An the same reason a guy in california bought a saw an sent it back three times and finnally said for get it!!! he was told the same speech but in the end all he got was a polished and port turd!!!

Later Troy

Hey Its SUPER CRAIG... Hey talking about turds... Glad you showed up;) You were the guy that was making the 1000.00 dollar bets that didn't even have the sack to show up to run your POS...Geez Craig you going to make it to Chardon this year and show everyone up again, or is there another unexpected family emergency going to show up right before the big date.
 
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