Thomas Venditto
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did you fix this? What was the outcome?
Can barely pull starter rope
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GeneralKayoss
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I'm just here for the fourth resurrection.
"Barely pull starter rope."
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I ran into this recently with a Husqvarna 2100 with about 100 cc. No decomp valve of course. I installed a new ignition coil. The old one was shot and no spark was being supplied. But, test starting the engine was impossible for me because it still had phenomenal compression. The owner arrived with his son who was 76" tall and weighed in at 260 lb. He drop started the saw and the engine ran flawlessly with the new coil. Gasp!
I guess there are also some rather strong men in Sweden. One of them fought Rocky Balboa about 30 years ago (Dolph Lundgren). Perhaps Husqvarna designed that engine for him to pull start.
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I ran into this recently with a Husqvarna 2100 with about 100 cc. No decomp valve of course. I installed a new ignition coil. The old one was shot and no spark was being supplied. But, test starting the engine was impossible for me because it still had phenomenal compression. The owner arrived with his son who was 76" tall and weighed in at 260 lb. He drop started the saw and the engine ran flawlessly with the new coil. Gasp!
I guess there are also some rather strong men in Sweden. One of them fought Rocky Balboa about 30 years ago (Dolph Lundgren). Perhaps Husqvarna designed that engine for him to pull start.
Mike Ray
ArboristSite Operative
I HAD THE CHAIN BRAKE ON!
That had no effect on the pull starter unless the clutch bearing is seized up.
"Barely pull starter rope."
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I ran into this recently with a Husqvarna 2100 with about 100 cc. No decomp valve of course. I installed a new ignition coil. The old one was shot and no spark was being supplied. But, test starting the engine was impossible for me because it still had phenomenal compression. The owner arrived with his son who was 76" tall and weighed in at 260 lb. He drop started the saw and the engine ran flawlessly with the new coil. Gasp!
I guess there are also some rather strong men in Sweden. One of them fought Rocky Balboa about 30 years ago (Dolph Lundgren). Perhaps Husqvarna designed that engine for him to pull start.
I bought the 2101XP in my avatar off eBay for $300 as being locked up.
I took the plug out and squirted some mix in. Pulled it a few times to get it slicked up, put the plug back in and fired right up.
My neighbor came by looking at it and I told him if he could start it he could have it. He pulled the rope maybe 6 inches.
There is a technique or maybe mindset to starting those saws.
Of course, pulling a rope on some piece of equipment 100 times or more some days makes a difference I guess.
My ms250 had a bunch of fuel in the crank case so I turned it upside down with the sparkplug out overnight and drained it. It turned over easier but by no means easy. I finally got it started and ran it for a few minutes and shut it off; tried to start it the next day and it wouldn't start.
Thomas Venditto
ArboristSite Operative
This is an old thread. It's mine and I have an update and a question.
I have a 461(and 11 other chain saws) that kicks back SO BAD, it's nearly impossible to start. I bought the saw new, but that guy is OOB. I've had it to 2 Stihl mechanics who say there's nothing wrong with it. They declined to test it IFO me tho.
This is an ongoing problem with this saw for 2 years now. It persisted this winter when I really needed it. I managed to get a few hours out of it, but each time it took me a long time to get it started, with me only able to pull the cord a few inches before it severely kicked back.
A couple of weeks ago, I replaced the ignition module with a cheap one from Amazon and installed it with the Stihl tool(which is a breeze, BTW). SAME THING HAPPENING.
I've been hesitating to pull the fly wheel off, not wanting to eff it up. I've done a couple before, but this saw is "like new", so there's more at stake.
I haven't done any cutting since then and decided to have another shop look at it today. Nice folks. Listened to my story. The mechanic tried it out and it started up(with the Chinese I.M.) completely NORMAL! I started it myself 3 or 4 times and it worked perfectly!
Aside from being a little embarrassed, I'm glad the saw is working now, BUT WHY?
Has the same gas in it.
Warmer weather?
Sat for a month?
I have two buds with the same issue; one has a 361 and the other a 261. They don't use their saws either for that reason.
I have a 461(and 11 other chain saws) that kicks back SO BAD, it's nearly impossible to start. I bought the saw new, but that guy is OOB. I've had it to 2 Stihl mechanics who say there's nothing wrong with it. They declined to test it IFO me tho.
This is an ongoing problem with this saw for 2 years now. It persisted this winter when I really needed it. I managed to get a few hours out of it, but each time it took me a long time to get it started, with me only able to pull the cord a few inches before it severely kicked back.
A couple of weeks ago, I replaced the ignition module with a cheap one from Amazon and installed it with the Stihl tool(which is a breeze, BTW). SAME THING HAPPENING.
I've been hesitating to pull the fly wheel off, not wanting to eff it up. I've done a couple before, but this saw is "like new", so there's more at stake.
I haven't done any cutting since then and decided to have another shop look at it today. Nice folks. Listened to my story. The mechanic tried it out and it started up(with the Chinese I.M.) completely NORMAL! I started it myself 3 or 4 times and it worked perfectly!
Aside from being a little embarrassed, I'm glad the saw is working now, BUT WHY?
Has the same gas in it.
Warmer weather?
Sat for a month?
I have two buds with the same issue; one has a 361 and the other a 261. They don't use their saws either for that reason.
HansFranz
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I guess I'm just lucky. Never had any trouble with my 361 or even the 660 with the decomp blocked off with a plug.
Both my 361 and 500I can do the same hard pull. I'm sure part of it is my age creeping up on me. What I do now, and maybe it's all in my head is push the comp release, then pull the starter slowly about two times each. Then I pull it the normal way.
Maybe it helps the saw, or maybe it loosens up my shoulder and arm, I dunno. But it does make starting them easier.
Good luck, your mileage may vary
Maybe it helps the saw, or maybe it loosens up my shoulder and arm, I dunno. But it does make starting them easier.
Good luck, your mileage may vary
Thomas Venditto
ArboristSite Operative
Your technique is good. I have my 89yo dad doing that.
What I'm experiencing is not "hard to pull". It's IMPOSSIBLE to pull and half the time it pulls the cord back and right out of your hand.
Yesterday at the shop, she kicked over like a baby. Something has changed, but I don't know what. The saw has been sitting on the bench for a month.
Thomas Venditto
ArboristSite Operative
I didn't have to. I was standing right in front of him. It's the old "never does it at the mechanic's" syndrome. I didn't try to start it today. I'll update. If it starts doing this again, I'll post a video.
Thanks
thenne1713
ArboristSite Guru
I was given a little vintage red Poulan w/ manual oil button and auto oil that had that kickback symptom and no start, and ignored/ denied the obvious until frustration/ advice finally made me pull flywheel; sure enough, the PO had installed it 3/16" away from key slot ... and correction made it an "easy start"...
Have you have you pulled the recoil starter cover. Those pawls wear slot and get bound up
