Can I be honest, selling saws here a PITA

[MnSam]

I am a fan of paying with money orders from my bank and letting the seller receive it before he ships. Then again, there has been a lot of turn over on here and I don't know everyone anymore ...

 

[ElevatorGuy]

Yeah man- unfortunately, it looks like everything concerning online/electronic payments will be tripping an alarm started 1/1/2022

Gotta vote this crap out.

 

[Renegade32]

Anything over $600 per transaction? I did not see yet how they intend to separate personal vs small business though.

$600 per year I think.

 

[Huskybill]

Shipping? FedEx I find is cheaper.

Then we get the buyer who swaps parts and returns the saw.

 

[Casawfan]

I don't see why you would be upset with a buyer after agreeing to a price on the transaction. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your statements here, but that's what I'm getting.

If a seller sells something to me, we both agree on the price, and he didn't do his due diligence to figure out or know what shipping is going to be for that item, that's not my fault. I made that mistake once, I lost $20 on an item way back. I could have thrown the $400 item in the trash and came out ahead of that deal I agreed to. I didn't send the buyer a note asking for more money or complaining about the shipping...sorry, that's a seriously classless thing to do in my opinion. I ate the loss because it was my fault for being lazy and not checking shipping before agreeing on a price shipped. Learned from my mistake I did.

After that I either got a shipping quote to the buyers zip code before agreeing on a price OR sold the item plus actual shipping unless I knew it would fit in a flat rate box. Pain in the butt, however, it saved me money.

I don't want to sound like a jerk, but if a seller sent me a note asking me for more money after the agreed upon price for an item because they didn't figure out shipping, well, I seriously doubt I would be sending them ANY money. Unless we were friends or did a lot of deals before hand and something really weird happened. That guy gave you $5 he didn't have to, and you're still upset with him? I don't think you're the type of person that I want to be buying items from.

Imagine telling a customer that I would take their tree down for $400. Then after doing the tree and maybe some equipment breaks costing me more than expected, telling them, 'That was a lot of leg work for just $12 after expenses'. smh...I couldn't imagine the embarrassment I would feel doing that. I just wouldn't do it because it's not right. A deal is a deal, even if it doesn't work out well for me.

The thing about business is it can be equitable and mutually beneficial for everyone involved. When someone is presented with a deal an on item, the truly classless thing to do is ask for even more money off an already good price. It was a parts saw and presented as such easily $150 worth of good parts. I figured it would be realistic to end up with $50 in my pocket.

I didn’t ask for anything more I’m not sure where you got that from?
He sent $5 as a “tip” lol
If I would have realized this it would have been less headache to throw the thing in the trash. Which in the future I’ll be doing. Don’t act as if a $5 was a show of good faith when I probably had a little over an hour of my time in it. Effectively paid my self ~$9.60/hr lol

 

[Casawfan]

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Shipping? FedEx I find is cheaper.

Then we get the buyer who swaps parts and returns the saw.

That’s bad, I couldn’t imagine

 

[benz66]

Is anyone aware of the new tax reporting requirements with PayPal? Go look it up. I will not be accepting any more goods and services payments to PayPal. Don't trust me to pay with Friends and Family? Then you aint buying from me.

Yes, the ruling junta is getting greedier, so they are using the infernal rev newers to try to shake more money out of people selling used toys. Used stuff used to be sales tax exempt.

 

[bwalker]

The thing about business is it can be equitable and mutually beneficial for everyone involved. When someone is presented with a deal an on item, the truly classless thing to do is ask for even more money off an already good price. It was a parts saw and presented as such easily $150 worth of good parts. I figured it would be realistic to end up with $50 in my pocket.

I didn’t ask for anything more I’m not sure where you got that from?
He sent $5 as a “tip” lol
If I would have realized this it would have been less headache to throw the thing in the trash. Which in the future I’ll be doing. Don’t act as if a $5 was a show of good faith when I probably had a little over an hour of my time in it. Effectively paid my self ~$9.60/hr lol

What you think your parts are worth and what the are actually worth are two different things in many cases.
Personally I've never had a problem buying or selling anything here.
You do get tire kickers and low ballers, but no one has a gun to your head to accept an offer.

 

[SteveSr]

Used stuff used to be sales tax exempt.

What makes you think that it still isn't?

The Feds tax income and gains. Therefore, as a seller, if you sell something for more than you paid for it you have a capital gain and pay tax on the amount of the gain. For used items sold for less that you paid for it there is a loss (no gain) and no tax is due.

As a buyer, sales taxes are a completely different matter. These taxes are levied by your state and local government on all purchases whether new or used. As the economy has moved online the states were tired of getting left out of their "cut" and have successfully sued some of the big online players to collect sales taxes for them. So basically we have been "caught" and are now having to pay what we should have been paying all along.

 

[billyboy]

@ lone wolf, Did you figure out insurance? The service would be worthless without it.

 

[lone wolf]

@ lone wolf, Did you figure out insurance? The service would be worthless without it.

Yes its a bit down more after the dimensions of the box size.

 

[Czed]

A bit of a rant.
I like this site, I really do. Cutting wood, time outdoors and saws are all great. but selling a saw here is a real pain in the ass. Don’t let my new profile and low post count throw anyone off, my old one through FB was corrupted so made a new one.

The seller doesn’t have a picture of the piston and/or a compression test?
Theyre a snake trying to rip people off.
2.) it costs more than $20 to ship a saw coast to coast and anyone asking for more is not out to get you.

3.) “how much would it be to ship to X?, that sounds like a lot my brothers, nephews, ex said it should only be $15”

4.) The ad requested PayPal FF, if you want the protection add the 3%. The buyer sends it normally w/o 3% fee and upon making them aware the buyer doesn’t remedy it.

I’ve bought and sold parts from FB saw forums from people who were BSing and someone mentioned “hey I got one of those laying around, you interested?” Easiest transactions ever.


Sold a parts saw on here for $40 (after they chewed me down of course) probably $150 worth of parts. The shipping ended up being $33 sent the buyer a tracking and let them know. He sent me $5 more lol
That’s a lot of legwork on my part for $12.

Charity is one thing, when it comes time to compensation someone for their work don’t go offering like $15/hr for hard labor.

everything here costs more why would I spend way more effort and headache for less money trying to appease someone in BFE south or east coast who wants to pay their cheap ( or other parts of the country) prices ?

sorry and rant over.

I am given saws often because parts and labor are worth more then the
Saw it don't even try to sell them
I give them to family or trade locally for stuff I need.
I've seen guy's
Sell new saws on the forum
Then the buyer's remorse or wife kicks In and they cry wanting their money back.

 

[junglejohnny28]

Did I say “snobs”? I should’ve said aficionados!

Enthusiasts? Buffs? Addicts? Sawphiles?

Sawaholics ?

 

[Jeekinz]

Im in a bunch of motorcycle groups/forums. There are scammers daily and people getting ripped off for big money. It got so bad if you even request paypal f/f no one will deal with you.

 

[a. palmer jr.]

Don't blame you one bit. If they can't get a pic of the P&C or answer a few questions, I don't go further.
Best advice I can give is set your price and hold firm. I don't ask for F&F on paypal, 3% just isn't worth it to me.
Shipping charges are so high anymore but some do try to get way too much. I bought a saw from a guy an hour away and he wanted $90 shipping on top of the saw price that was about 10x too high. What really gets me is the ridiculous prices people ask on ebay.

If you don't want to lose money selling saws on ebay you have to ask too much, it makes up for all the times you got screwed by crooked buyers on that site. The last "buyer" I had requested Paypal send him his money back because the parts saw had a non working chain brake, which I'm pretty sure did work. He got his money back and kept the saw. That was the end of my selling saws on ebay...

 

[Bodell0]

Sounds like, you may have been dealing with the wrong people. I never charge more than what I pay for shipping, my parts are very reasonable, tons of great people. Just have to take the time to get to know them. I send f&f every time dealing with anyone on the forums. Some people are running a business and need to cover their end for tax purposes, but most of us are just hobbiest with a sense of gratitude from helping others achieve what they need.


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[bulletpruf]

Be careful out there...

I recently posted an ad on this site and the "other site" looking for a nice 036 Pro. Someone from the other site, new account, tried to scam me. Same thing on Facebook.

I'll do F&F for those that are established members here and/or folks I've dealt with in the past, but it's PayPal Goods and Services for everyone else.

As for selling, I haven't had a lot of luck here. Lately, I just post my items on eBay and then post a link here in case anyone is interested.

 

[SamT1]

I have all but stoped buying and selling online if you can’t meet up face to face.
Last chainsaw I bought was supposed to be running in good condition. Paid what it was worth. When I got it, it needed fuel lines and the oil pump is out. Haven’t had time to touch it, still on the shelf in my shop for over a year.
Last few items I sold on eBay I had hell with. A boat prop that I had had rebuilt at prop shop and never ran, sold the boat and it was my spare. I didn’t have shipping calculated right (old address defaulted) and it sold for like shipping plus $25. I had spent $150 having it repaired and it just rode under the seat as a spare. Anyway guy gets it and 2 weeks later opens a claim against me saying it’s no good. He shows pictures as evidence of it being repaired that look almost exactly like the pictures in my add. eBay gives him his money back and prints the guy a shipping label at cost to me.
Throw looney tunes joes new tax policy on stuff like eBay, PayPal, Venmo on top of 1/3 of people being dishonest and I’m pretty much done.

 

[a. palmer jr.]

Sounds like, you may have been dealing with the wrong people. I never charge more than what I pay for shipping, my parts are very reasonable, tons of great people. Just have to take the time to get to know them. I send f&f every time dealing with anyone on the forums. Some people are running a business and need to cover their end for tax purposes, but most of us are just hobbiest with a sense of gratitude from helping others achieve what they need.


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I've had some good buyers on ebay also, some actually thanked me for selling them a nice saw. The problem is that lately the scammers outnumbered the good people so I decided to sell in a different place..

 

[bulletpruf]

I've had some good buyers on ebay also, some actually thanked me for selling them a nice saw. The problem is that lately the scammers outnumbered the good people so I decided to sell in a different place..

eBay has been good to me over the years. I have two saws there right now - a Stihl 038 Magnum and a Stihl BLK. The BLK is at $2,000 with a few days to go; no way I would have gotten anywhere near that by listing it here. Of course, I have to account for the fees, but I still think this is where to go to sell saws that have some collectibility.