Can't modify/delete a post I made
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Lakeside53
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Lakeside53
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Send a letter to the editor of a newspaper, have it published and then tell them you want to change it... just a little bit, or get it back. Oh, you already signed a release... Surely we don't want to go down this path on AS?
totally irrelevant discussion IMO. A hypothetical case : What if AS for ex. would decide to use your posts and let's say, making a new chainsaw repair manual for commercial use, would you like to be asked for approval or not ?
if you would oppose and AS would do otherwise against your will, wouldn't you like the opportunity to delete your posts ?
there are lots of issues involved here...
PS. My posts are totally useless, so I don't run that risk :hmm3grin2orange:
Lakeside53
Stihl Wrenching
In that case the only protection for either party is a user agreement (between AS and a member) as part of registering. I can't remember if there was one or not. I probably just said "yup" even if there was. I'm in favor of no contracts in the case.
Right now a user has little to no control over the distribuation of posts made - it's all available by search engines for the entire world to see. Personally, I don't care, but can see that some might, and that some should
Right now a user has little to no control over the distribuation of posts made - it's all available by search engines for the entire world to see. Personally, I don't care, but can see that some might, and that some should
another vote for putting it back like it was!
if it's not broken.... don't fix it
there's no perfect solution, sure some will go back and delete their posts and screw up threads. but so what! it was their post to begin with.
besides... except a few instances of this happening.... is this a large enough problem to justify making wholesale change from a successful formula? this new SHORT edit rule changes for everyone how AS works!
no edit is taking ownership of your own words away from you.
there's some real safety aspects of this I don't like. what if you made a mistake posting some critical information. it doesn't happen very often, but it does happen. I'd like to go back and delete it.
for instance... some asked what's a good rope to start with. I posted a link to a 120ft hank of safety blue for $72. well... I didn't look at picture close enough. it was twisted rope... instead of braided rope like what I'm using.
naturally I went back and deleted that information and made sure person that posted request got the correct info.
PLEASE CONSIDER CHANGING IT BACK!
if it's not broken.... don't fix it
there's no perfect solution, sure some will go back and delete their posts and screw up threads. but so what! it was their post to begin with.
besides... except a few instances of this happening.... is this a large enough problem to justify making wholesale change from a successful formula? this new SHORT edit rule changes for everyone how AS works!
no edit is taking ownership of your own words away from you.
there's some real safety aspects of this I don't like. what if you made a mistake posting some critical information. it doesn't happen very often, but it does happen. I'd like to go back and delete it.
for instance... some asked what's a good rope to start with. I posted a link to a 120ft hank of safety blue for $72. well... I didn't look at picture close enough. it was twisted rope... instead of braided rope like what I'm using.
naturally I went back and deleted that information and made sure person that posted request got the correct info.
PLEASE CONSIDER CHANGING IT BACK!
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Lakeside53
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Well... the newspaper editor makes the spelling changes anyhow...
On AS, I'm assuming that the system software tracks the actual changes; maybe I'm wrong... but it's the "mad-man" deletion that seems to have some bothered.
I thought 36 hours would be resonable, voted for 48
I don't see your posts here being specifically yours to do what you want with; when posted they belong to the thread so to speak. Each post is a valuable piece to make up the whole thread, and by editing yours, or even worse deleting it, you might affect the whole thread, and wipe out it's meaning. Or at least make it hard to follow for someone who reads it long afterwards.
It's not what you, as a single person, write that makes it valuable, it's what we write together that makes it, but only if it's kept in it's context and all posts are preserved.
Persons deleting their posts are the biggest no-no if this site should keep being a good source for information. If the price for preventing that is that I can't correct my spelling errors a week later, then it's all fine by me.
All threads here are a valuable piece of information, maybe even to be considered as art or a piece of history. It should be conserved as a document on the strange community of people that once were into trees, saws and computers. Oh, the exeption might be some of THALL's threads where you probably could delete random sentences, posts or even whole pages without the thread loosing any of it's relevance...:biggrinbounce2:
I don't see your posts here being specifically yours to do what you want with; when posted they belong to the thread so to speak. Each post is a valuable piece to make up the whole thread, and by editing yours, or even worse deleting it, you might affect the whole thread, and wipe out it's meaning. Or at least make it hard to follow for someone who reads it long afterwards.
It's not what you, as a single person, write that makes it valuable, it's what we write together that makes it, but only if it's kept in it's context and all posts are preserved.
Persons deleting their posts are the biggest no-no if this site should keep being a good source for information. If the price for preventing that is that I can't correct my spelling errors a week later, then it's all fine by me.
All threads here are a valuable piece of information, maybe even to be considered as art or a piece of history. It should be conserved as a document on the strange community of people that once were into trees, saws and computers. Oh, the exeption might be some of THALL's threads where you probably could delete random sentences, posts or even whole pages without the thread loosing any of it's relevance...:biggrinbounce2:
Now you really have made me mad
. Thall's threads are the most valuable ones to me, ya hear, they are about FINE people, not saws Seriously now, I personally am not so keen about the ownership of my posts, but I want to have the right to at least edit them, without time limit.
Like Treeco mentioned, you don't have to create a whole set of new rules to a problem that was (still is) nearly inexistent. Let's not punish the whole poster society here for a few individuals.
just my 02 cts
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Isn't this addressed in the guidelines you agreed to before becoming a member here? Check # 16 in the guidelines at the top of the page.
Lakeside53
Stihl Wrenching
sure looks like it.
Isn't this addressed in the guidelines you agreed to before becoming a member here? Check # 16 in the guidelines at the top of the page.
Thanks for pointing that out. The rule is clear
.But this guideline also made it very clear that :
All posts are the property of the original poster
So shouldn't I have the right to edit/delete it at any time ? Looks quite obvious now.
Thanks for pointing that out. The rule is clear
But this guideline also made it very clear that :
All posts are the property of the original poster
So shouldn't I have the right to edit/delete it at any time ? Looks quite obvious now.
No, not according to the agreement. You were given an ownership right to your post, I didn't see anything about the right to edit, let alone the right to edit indefinitely.
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You also agreed to waive the right under certain conditions
Because this site exists for the purpose of exchanging and disseminating information, copy for the purpose of teaching, sharing info or promotion of ArboristSite.com is permitted provided that the material is attributed to ArboristSite.com and the original poster
Tree Services Magazine publishes random threads from ArboristSite.com. If you are concerned about this in any way please contact Darin before becoming a member. Otherwise, Tree Services Magazine can and will possibly use your posts with your user name in their magazine without contacting you.
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You also agreed to waive the right under certain conditions
Because this site exists for the purpose of exchanging and disseminating information, copy for the purpose of teaching, sharing info or promotion of ArboristSite.com is permitted provided that the material is attributed to ArboristSite.com and the original poster
Tree Services Magazine publishes random threads from ArboristSite.com. If you are concerned about this in any way please contact Darin before becoming a member. Otherwise, Tree Services Magazine can and will possibly use your posts with your user name in their magazine without contacting you.
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If deletion is the worry, then could a way be developed for a moderator to approve of edits in the same way the trading post is set up? When I edit my spelling, I give my reason for wanting to edit. It could then go to a mod for approval. If the original poster has deleted their post, the moderator could but the "keebosh" on it right then and there. That should keep deleting from being a problem and allow for editing.
Maybe the amount of editing being done is huge and that would add a ton of work to the moderators. That is not my intent. You guys do a great job!
Maybe the amount of editing being done is huge and that would add a ton of work to the moderators. That is not my intent. You guys do a great job!
Lakeside53
Stihl Wrenching
Good idea, but wouldn't work for me. In my case I'd be pestering the mods multiple times a day... and multiple times per post sometimes!
tawilson
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You got your facts all screwed up. All they did was lock a thread, then he went all haywire.
SawTroll
Information Collector
Sorry Roland, have to agree with trimmmed this time......
tawilson
Addicted to ArboristSite
I also think that's a good idea someone (Treeco?) suggested about locking pictures up so they can't be edited. If you ain't got nads enough to stand behind what you put out there, then don't post.
Pester away Lake, you are never a bother. I have installed an editing approval button in my sig, feel free to use it as often as you need it, my door is always open and I promise you a quick decision in in each case, after carefully reviewing all the pertinent facts of course
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