Case 300 3-53 Detroit

[RVALUE]

In a crate? How complete is it?

It was dubbed as a fan to flywheel? I've had it a while. It may be a factory re-man.

 

[RVALUE]

hey i'd like to hear bout this too. what bellhousing?

???? What do I look for?

 

[treeslayer2003]

???? What do I look for?

i'm no expert, but if ya measure across bolt hole to bolt hole, should be able to figure it out. do you know what application it was made for? loader, skidder,power unit? what injectors? look at plate on valve cover.

 

[dooby]

your s8 has a 3-53? mine has a 358 ih engine and funk power shift.

it's not really mine yet. I have been sub-leasing it from a friend. Will be out there this weekend and will take a pic. of it. It's not in the best of shape, but still very functional. The Detroit in it now is getin' tiered. Do you know if a Cummins can bolt up? Found a JD 440c today that has been sittin' for 8 yrs. without being started. It needs new wires,tires,and the fuel tanks flushed or replaced. The owner said it ran strong when it was parked. I would rather put my money on that S8 though.

 

[RVALUE]

i'm no expert, but if ya measure across bolt hole to bolt hole, should be able to figure it out. do you know what application it was made for? loader, skidder,power unit? what injectors? look at plate on valve cover.

Perfect answer to the question.


I'll do it.

 

[treeslayer2003]

it's not really mine yet. I have been sub-leasing it from a friend. Will be out there this weekend and will take a pic. of it. It's not in the best of shape, but still very functional. The Detroit in it now is getin' tiered. Do you know if a Cummins can bolt up? Found a JD 440c today that has been sittin' for 8 yrs. without being started. It needs new wires,tires,and the fuel tanks flushed or replaced. The owner said it ran strong when it was parked. I would rather put my money on that S8 though.

if it came with a Detroit it's an older one. not sure bout putting a cummins in it. I was gonna put one in my 664, learned the converter by not work right with it, wrong stall. at least have to have the right bell housing and flywheel. oil pan. manual or power shift my make a diff. also. if that ih is a real early one, the 440 could be a better option. depends on condition. i'm a little biased, I just don't like a manual trans in a skidder. any brand, but that's just me.

 

[northmanlogging]

The syncro pain in my deere isn't too bad...

The old Mountain logger I ran had a standard H 4 speed in it... That was a real pain, if I remember correctly it had a reverser in it and for a 11-12 year old brat with small feet it was a bit much to figure out in short order.

 

[dooby]

if it came with a Detroit it's an older one. not sure bout putting a cummins in it. I was gonna put one in my 664, learned the converter by not work right with it, wrong stall. at least have to have the right bell housing and flywheel. oil pan. manual or power shift my make a diff. also. if that ih is a real early one, the 440 could be a better option. depends on condition. i'm a little biased, I just don't like a manual trans in a skidder. any brand, but that's just me.

It's the older model. The winch is the older model also. $1500.00 for a fresh eng. or re gasket and seal-up a machine i don't know anything about... Would you still run w/ the Deere?opcorn:

 

[redprospector]

Dooby,
My little 440b sat for 6 years before I bought it. I drained & flushed the lines as good as I could, bled the system, and on about the 5th revolution trying to start her she fired right up. I've been running her since 04 and finally had to put a hyd. pump, and injectors in 2 years ago.
In my opinion, nothing runs like a deere...unless it's not running. Then pretty much anything will do. :msp_laugh:

Andy

 

[dooby]

Dooby,
My little 440b sat for 6 years before I bought it. I drained & flushed the lines as good as I could, bled the system, and on about the 5th revolution trying to start her she fired right up. I've been running her since 04 and finally had to put a hyd. pump, and injectors in 2 years ago.
In my opinion, nothing runs like a deere...unless it's not running. Then pretty much anything will do. :msp_laugh:

Andy

This 440 Might be worth pursuing. I know the price is right. Its gonna need tires very soon, and new hyd. lines. All of my memories about 440's is that they are tippy. The weight of the 440 sure appeals to me though. That S8 that i sub-lease is heavy but very stable. I wa told IHC sold there skidder design to Cat and that's how the 518s got here. I haven't looked into that yet, but does anyone know if that is correct?

 

[dooby]

The syncro pain in my deere isn't too bad...

The old Mountain logger I ran had a standard H 4 speed in it... That was a real pain, if I remember correctly it had a reverser in it and for a 11-12 year old brat with small feet it was a bit much to figure out in short order.

Mountain Loggers were made in Kalispell,Mt.(about 70 miles from my place) before they moved to Washington. The first ones were put together w/ junkyard parts,if i was told correctly. A guy i used to cut for had a big one, not sure of the size. It had a double drum winch set-up on it. Only one winch work during my time around it but he always bragged about how good it would pull with both winches loaded up. I remember him always cussin' out Dodge for there trans., but he was pretty hard on his equipment.LOL

 

[jrcat]

I dont know. Cats are all Cat. even right down the axles. Aside of having gear matic winches on em. Cats center pivot design is like nothing I have seen on any other skidder. The only design I've seen that comes close is that of a Franklin. But I do stand to be corrected.

 

[dooby]

I was just doing a google search on this and can't find anything. this weekend I will be around a cat mech. maybe he will know. The Cat 518 w/ swing boom is my favorite all time skidder. they are heavy and the most stable machine I have ran. A little hard on fuel but the production is worth it. They are very popular out west.

 

[treeslayer2003]

This 440 Might be worth pursuing. I know the price is right. Its gonna need tires very soon, and new hyd. lines. All of my memories about 440's is that they are tippy. The weight of the 440 sure appeals to me though. That S8 that i sub-lease is heavy but very stable. I wa told IHC sold there skidder design to Cat and that's how the 518s got here. I haven't looked into that yet, but does anyone know if that is correct?

don't know bout that, cat was around before ih quit. i'd say an ih is quite a bit lighter than a cat, around 540 weight. ih oscilates in the front, cat in the back like a franklin. cat is a good machine tho.

 

[jrcat]

I was just doing a google search on this and can't find anything. this weekend I will be around a cat mech. maybe he will know. The Cat 518 w/ swing boom is my favorite all time skidder. they are heavy and the most stable machine I have ran. A little hard on fuel but the production is worth it. They are very popular out west.

Those 518's have been built the same for years. They are a very tough machine.

 

[jrcat]

Caterpillar 518 Skidder

According to the specs the 3304 is 7L or 425 cubes. No wonder why they suck some fuel :msp_scared: For a 4 cyl. thats only 20 cubes less than the V8 in my truck lol. I wonder how the 528's fair on fuel with a 3306 in em .. OUCH!!!!!!!!!!

 

[jrcat]

This thing is just a monster ..holy sheep ****...
Caterpillar 518 Skidder

Caterpillar 528 Skidder - RitchieWiki

 

[redprospector]

This 440 Might be worth pursuing. I know the price is right. Its gonna need tires very soon, and new hyd. lines. All of my memories about 440's is that they are tippy. The weight of the 440 sure appeals to me though. That S8 that i sub-lease is heavy but very stable. I wa told IHC sold there skidder design to Cat and that's how the 518s got here. I haven't looked into that yet, but does anyone know if that is correct?

It's kinda like asking which saw is best, brand x or brand b? Everyone will vote for what they have, or have ran and liked. It's all opinion (including mine).
The tippy feature that JD installed on all 440's can be cured with about 130 gallons of winter blend windshield washer fluid pumped into the rear tires. Problem solved.
I hauled my 440b half way across New Mexico on a 14K gooseneck to get it home. Bet ya can't do that with an S8.

Andy

 

[dooby]

Caterpillar#518#Skidder

According to the specs the 3304 is 7L or 425 cubes. No wonder why they suck some fuel :msp_scared: For a 4 cyl. thats only 20 cubes less than the V8 in my truck lol. I wonder how the 528's fair on fuel with a 3306 in em .. OUCH!!!!!!!!!!

Jrcat-Thanks for the spec. link !!! I didn't know that existed. I wounder if there is one avail. for older machinery. W/ 7-8 hrs. on the timer in average mountain skidding the 518's that ive been around wre going through 17-25 gallons a day. The JD's would use less fuel but could not skid the same ground a 518, but the JD's are a faster machine, I will give them that. Way diff. tranny's.

 

[dooby]

It's kinda like asking which saw is best, brand x or brand b? Everyone will vote for what they have, or have ran and liked. It's all opinion (including mine).
The tippy feature that JD installed on all 440's can be cured with about 130 gallons of winter blend windshield washer fluid pumped into the rear tires. Problem solved.
I hauled my 440b half way across New Mexico on a 14K gooseneck to get it home. Bet ya can't do that with an S8.

Andy

I know, right. the 440 is a very lite, nimble machine and for the little acreage sub divisions in the N.W.. they would be perfect. we trailer that S8 on a gooseneck all the time but we are slippin' scales when Roscoe is in bed.LOL