Crappy Stihl Cylinder - Looks like ChiCom Garbage!!!

[Justsaws]

It is interesting that during an era when the EPA regs are tightening, the implementation of a cylinder design could be that poor. You would think that it would be a logical step to have cylinders and pistons with better and more consistent overall fit and finish than a lot of the new saws have.

 

[Spitzer]

Brad, you are so right in what you are saying. Stihl tools have sold on a solid reputation as a top quality engineered product for many years and most people ( but apparently not all ) who pay a premium price for their pro stuff want the best quality and rightly so. Folks who put their faith in stihl products and pay up to, lets say a $1000 US or £1000 GBP have every right to be disappointed if the drop in quality as in the photo's, is now going to be the norm. Performance aint the issue here, but the big drop in quality for the premium prices what Stihl charge joe public surely is the issue. If joe public only wants that sort of quality in his hands, he aint gonna want to pay premium. Brad, well done for starting this thread and showing some fact of whats going on. I've spent well over £2000 on Stihl products recently and seeing that cylinder dont make me feel too good.

 

[wanab]

you want to see Tommy's I-beam???

 

[spike60]

Morning everybody! I'm all caught up now on what I missed on the late show here.

A few opening remarks before I head to the store. The 372 pics clearly show a defective crankcase that should have, and would have, been replaced under warranty by Husky.

The bigger issue is this: What Husky will not say, is that the crankcase in question was sourced from an off-shore factory because they were running low on the good ones.

Husky doesn't switch to aftermarket parts in order to keep building saws. 3 or 4 years ago, I was told that a couple of models were backordered because they ran out of cylinders and were waiting for Mahle to catch up.

Switching to those cylinders fom Brazil, (which are clearly not as good as those from Mahle regardless of whether or not Stihl has ownership in the factory), is what my Dad calls "pulling a fast one" on the customer. It might be great for the guy in Virginia Beach building them, but it's not so great for the guy who ends up with the saw.

So, it's not just a quality issue, it's also a trust and ethics issue. Is Stihl doing the right thing by using these lesser quality cylinders in order to keep the line moving and fill orders? Has Stihl violated the trust of their customers in going this route?

Keep this in mind: The 372 crankcase was a mistake; a cylinder from Brazil is a decision. Big difference.

 

[Fastcast]

Fast if it runs fine what is the problem.

You know damn well what the problem is....It's a disgrace....That jug is cast from a mold. This isn't a one time deal sport. Every jug that comes out of that mold is going to be close to identical.

That's your pride and joy ya know the company we also have to have our noses rubbed in on regular bases by you and a few others, how they're far superior in quality, engineering and of course sales and this is why people will pay extra for Stihl....Well I guessit looks like they're losing that so called edge you're always bragging about and you're trying to cover your trail like a 12 year old school boy.

How it looks and how it runs is really a matter of opinion.

Yea, and how it looks and how it shoots when you buy a new Benelli shotgun is a matter of opinion huh? If the fit and finish on the cast parts of the premium priced Benelli looked anything like a Stoeger or Mossburg how long do you think people would continue pay the premium Benelli price?

Once again 12 year old school boy logic and anyone with 1/2 a brain can see you're squirming, trying to cover for this crap Stihl is putting out on pro saws......How long have you really known about this?

Course now you see a lack of quailty, of course you do. That said can you post some pics of the cylinders on your machines, I mean there may be a lack of quality in there you don't know about, I'm sure I'll be able to spot some for ya,

For starters, my camera isn't near the quality of Brad's and I couldn't get pictures like that if I wanted to. Further more, you own a 5100 (which is one that I also own) go out to your own shed and take a look at it for yourself. If the finish work on the outside is any indication of what's on the inside they're not even in the same league.

Continue on T-Bone

 

[RandyMac]

Don't you just hate it when icons fall.

 

[peter399]

Because Pullon made it!!

Husky #1 Husky #1

Husqvarna has the Poulan brand for low cost consumer saws, they don't secretly put Brazilan or Chinese jugs in pro grade saws like Stihl does with the 260, 460 and 660. Lucky you to have a 440 2K, it's not a 372 but at least it's not made in China :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[blsnelling]

Mornin' fellers! It didn't take me as long to get caught up this morning as I feared, lol.

He should have run the traps before inaccurately calling it a chicom part.

So we're in a court of law now. Details are important here. Go back to the thread title and my first post. Key words..."Looks like Chicom garbage". And it's a fact that it does. Matter of fact, it looks worse than some. Sorry, didn't get me on that one. I personally believe this is far more of a real issue than, "Stihl just ran out of good Mahle cylinders". Reguardless, they shouldn't be installing greatly inferior cylinders when Mahle can't keep up. IMHO, that's down right unethical.

I'm second in line to pay $85 for it.

Sorry 2000ssm6, it's already paid for. I could always pick up the new 260 Pro my dealer has that looks to have the same sloppily cast cylinder. Same yellow paint mark and all.

 

[PB]

And one more thought: We Husky and Jonny guys shouldn't gloat over this because if Stihl gets away with it, we could be next.

They would only get away with it once. I would charter a plane to Sweden and swiftly kick the Husky official in the ass.

 

[joatmon]

I just Pissed myself. LMAO

Dog,

So, you think you're a 441 now?

Call my office for an appointment,

dr. joat

 

[blsnelling]

Dog,

So, you think you're a 441 now?

Call my office for an appointment,

dr. joat

Hey, what about my appointment?

 

[joatmon]

So now we'll never know if Stihl would have replaced it

Joatman, I need to schedule an appointment. This whole ordeal has really shaken me. I'm just so disappointed. I really don't know if I can let this go. I mean, what's to become of our beloved toys with this kind of stuff getting through?

Hey, what about my appointment?

Brad,

You jumped into the water exactly as you had planned. You just got in a little deeper than you wanted. The fear set in, but you kept treading. Stay in the shallow end for a few days and then feel free to get back in the deep water again. Buck up Brad. It was tough, but you survived.

I see no need for an appoinment,

dr. joat

PS: pretty nurse - no charge for the Mr. Snelling consult.

 

[blsnelling]

Brad,

You jumped into the water exactly as you had planned. You just got in a little deeper than you wanted. The fear set in, but you kept treading. Stay in the shallow end for a few days and then feel free to get back in the deep water again. Buck up Brad. It was tough, but you survived.

I see no need for an appoinment,

dr. joat

PS: pretty nurse - no charge for the Mr. Snelling consult.

But what about the pretty receptionist?

 

[joatmon]

But what about the pretty receptionist?

Brad,

She's at the receiving dock waiting for that cylinder.

dr. joat

 

[bookerdog]

Dog,

So, you think you're a 441 now?

Call my office for an appointment,

dr. joat

Have you talked to your nurse Tammy fay hall about all these app.

 

[peter399]

They would only get away with it once. I would charter a plane to Sweden and swiftly kick the Husky official in the ass.

I know a purchaser at Husqvarna. I'll ask her to tell her colleagues for chainsaw part purchase to never do what Stihl has done

Stihl purchase now has to issue a new RFQ.

Part description: "Made in China" sticker.
Yearly volume = Total 260+460+660 sales

 

[blsnelling]

Part description: "Made in Brasil" sticker.
Yearly volume = Total 260+460+660 sales

Correction made

 

[Fastcast]

Have you talked to your nurse Tammy fay hall about all these app.

Yea, just when it looked like he was coming to his senses, he got a medicinal dose of Stihl dope from MR Hall.

Poor Joat!.....Kind of feel bad for the ole guy!

 

[2000ssm6]

I know a purchaser at Husqvarna. I'll ask her to tell her colleagues for chainsaw part purchase to never do what Stihl has done

Stihl purchase now has to issue a new RFQ.

Part description: "Made in China" sticker.
Yearly volume = Total 260+460+660 sales

So huskapullon has never shot their selves in the foot?

 

[2000ssm6]

Yea, just when it looked like he was coming to his senses, he got a medicinal dose of Stihl dope from MR Hall.

Poor Joat!.....Kind of feel bad for the ole guy!

Joat's purty nurse fixed me up with the #1 drug, LOL. Going to look at another Stihl today, hope the cylinder is good.