Crappy Stihl Cylinder - Looks like ChiCom Garbage!!!

[bookerdog]

Don't worry Booker, I'm on the up and up, I included Timbers in my count. Did you include Stihl's 40,000,000 plus sold in you count,LOLOLOL

You make sure to come over to my Husky crankcase thread later on Booker, ya hear, don't be late,LOL


Hot dayummmm I love a thread like this,:hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

O that reminds me of the other guys reported 17000 Thats 17002

 

[THALL10326]

Funny, I didn't see you calculating percentages on "drippy." Why is that?

Find out how many saws Husky has sold Space and I'll be happy to. $500.00 says you won't find out, ya game???

 

[bookerdog]

Beat down, I'm laffing my butt off, look up and read ole boy,hehe

I don't even have to enter in the conversation anymore. The Champ is no more. You remind me of ali in his last fight. LOL

 

[spacemule]

Find out how many saws Husky has sold Space and I'll be happy to. $500.00 says you won't find out, ya game???

That's easy--I know it off the top of my head. It's 40,000,001.

 

[THALL10326]

O that reminds me of the other guys reported 17000 Thats 17002

17000 more, ok. Lets see here, put that there, carry this, subtract that, ok Booker I got the %

.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000017003.

Dayumm still not bad,LOLOL

 

[PatrickIreland]

Brad, have you confirmed that the cylinder makes measurably less power than a Mahle cylinder, or confirmed with a flowbench that the casting marks cause measurably less flow?

Don't get me wrong, I agree that the appearance is not top level, but it is a tool, not a work of art.


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That is a shoddily made cylinder. Stihl sell at a top price, because they are supposed to be top quality, as are Husky. That sort of casting is atrocious, I could do better with a forge in the back garden and a brake hone to "perfect" the bore.
Here's hoping it was a bad run that will be remedied. My $100 new chinky saw has a better looking cylinder than that!
Think I'll stick to buying OLD Stihls...

 

[THALL10326]

That's easy--I know it off the top of my head. It's 40,000,001.

Your seeing Woodies dream, get out of his head,LOLOLOLOL

 

[cuttinstuff]

Chicom junk.....


Interesting that you use that term in the title of a thread about a Stihl cylinder, yet you fail to use that term in your thread about a 361BB cylinder that you got for free, The said BB cylinder have cylindricity problems pointed out by you.

It is so easy for those that have never been involved in manufactring to pass judgement on quality.

Brad, have you confirmed that the cylinder makes measurably less power than a Mahle cylinder, or confirmed with a flowbench that the casting marks cause measurably less flow?

If you were manufacturing saws, would you pour a great deal of capital into a model that will soon be unsellable in your largest market?

Have you stopped to think that maybe Mahle's unit price was to high to keep the MS260 at the price point Stihl needs?

Don't get me wrong, I agree that the appearance is not top level, but it is a tool, not a work of art.

Maybe you should buy the book Stihl: From an Idea to a World Brand to discover some of the obstacles Stihl has overcome to get where they are.

This thread has generated 5 pages in two hours so I would say your main objective is met.

I wonder though, can you define the root cause of the "crappy cylinder"?

What is your short term and long term countermeasure?

Maybe you will do an FMEA?

If I remember correctly, manufacturing is not your field of expertise, so maybe we should view your judgement as that of a layman.


Think about this Brad, You have built yourself a mighty big soapbox here on AS, So you may want to take care with what you say.



John Given


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Some valid points here and much to ponder. However if Stihl cannot put a decent cylinder on an outdated 50cc saw selling for $500.00 then maybe they need to pull the 260 from the market until they have a competitive replacement.

 

[2000ssm6]

O that reminds me of the other guys reported 17000 Thats 17002

Ok, 17,200 in 100,000,000,000,000 cylinders, so that is what? the size of a flea on your stinkin' dog arse?

 

[Tzed250]

That is a shoddily made cylinder. Stihl sell at a top price, because they are supposed to be top quality, as are Husky. That sort of casting is atrocious, I could do better with a forge in the back garden and a brake hone to "perfect" the bore.
Here's hoping it was a bad run that will be remedied. My $100 new chinky saw has a better looking cylinder than that!
Think I'll stick to buying OLD Stihls...

That is the opinion of most people that have no experience in manufacturing...

 

[spike60]

Boy this sure is a popular thread. 37 people on it right now. I guess I'll be staying up late tonight. It will be even better tonight after I have a few beers.


OK fellas, I just checked all my saws. Got about 80 Huskys and Jonnys in stock. I spent the last couple of hours pulling the cylinders off of every single saw. And I'm happy to report that every last one of them is absolutely perfect!!

This wouldn't happen to stihl if they used Kryptonite like Jonsered does.

 

[spacemule]

My my my. This at a time when Stihl has been bragging about profits and expansion. The direction this portends is rather undesirable methinks.

 

[bookerdog]

17000 more, ok. Lets see here, put that there, carry this, subtract that, ok Booker I got the %

.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000017003.

Dayumm still not bad,LOLOL

Ya just like steal the he&& with those people.

 

[PatrickIreland]

That is the opinion of most people that have no experience in manufacturing...

I'm a chartered mechanical design engineer, with considerable experience in manufacturing...

 

[spacemule]

That is the opinion of most people that have no experience in manufacturing...

Do you not find it to be an elitist, snobbish attitude to tell the hard working, saw using man he's not qualified to know junk when he sees it?

 

[Jacob J.]

Clearly the only answer to all of this is armed revolution in the streets...

 

[2000ssm6]

This wouldn't happen to stihl if they used Kryptonite like Jonsered does.

I'm sure we all know Jred gets the best 10% of all the cylinders casted, the other 90% go on the pullon's and huskies.

 

[bookerdog]

Ok, 17,200 in 100,000,000,000,000 cylinders, so that is what? the size of a flea on your stinkin' dog arse?

You can talk about my wife just dont talk about my dog. And no its about the size of your manhood so you decide. LOLOLOLOLOLO

 

[Tzed250]

Some valid points here and much to ponder. However if Stihl cannot put a decent cylinder on an outdated 50cc saw selling for $500.00 then maybe they need to pull the 260 from the market until they have a competitive replacement.

How is the cylinder not decent?

If the saw makes the advertised amount of power, and lasts the expected number of hours, then the cylinder has done what was required of it.

It is all so simple for those that do not have millions invested in a business...

 

[Tzed250]

Do you not find it to be an elitist, snobbish attitude to tell the hard working, saw using man he's not qualified to know junk when he sees it?

I worked a blue collar job today to earn a living, did you?