Discovery channel's "extreme logging"

[forestryworks]

I guess all of yaw expect these boys to be perfect. The only stump I saw that looked bad was the one the greenhorn cut and I know it looked better than a lot of other folks' first cut.

As for the truck, it has got to be paid for and it doubles as a loader! Looks like to me these boys got it figured out. The only payment I can see in their equipment is feed for them asses. Practically no overhead at all! Who in their right mind would worry about shocks on a log truck anyway. Ever heard the saying "that thing rides like a log truck".

being from TN and the above being your first post... part of the crew? a friend of the crew?

 

[windthrown]

BTW did anyone else think that the way they were cutting the trees down was strange, they left some pretty awful looking stumps in there.

Well, some of the falling methods were downright suicidal. I agree with the owner that he would never drop a tree that had a leaner on it. I would have dragged the butt of the tree out to drop it with chains and the mules. Trying to drop it with the red oak that far away was folly, and the result was almost comical. Never mind cutting the double prop trees. Pretty bass ackwards. Made our 2 person operation with a Kubota and a Polaris look real upscale. And the butts of the trees at the mill... man, 18 angles of cuts? They would laugh you off the mill lot here, and charge you to make a cleaner cut.

As for select harvesting, that is about the worst kind of logging that you can do. Taking the best and leaving the crap... the stand will decline, and the crappy trees will reproduce. Evolution in reverse. Better off to clear cut, which they were bashing. Seems like more of the Ax-Men type stuff, indeed. Horse logging is only done by a few people any more out here. The 85 acre stand that I managed was horse logged in the 1970's, and the damange done from the horses compacting the soil was still evident 30 years later. Tire ruts recover better. Modern lightfoot equipment is far better still.

Anyone see a single wedge being used?

 

[turnkey4099]

Them guys didn't know WTF they where doing, cuttin'......they are gonna get someone killed doin' that kinda **** in the woods... Who seen the mismatch on the notch? I did. And do you think there where any hinges on those trees? No there wasn't.... The're gonna get hurt.....I've seen it happen, way too many times to not know.....they don't have a F^%kin clue what they're doin'.... Them stumps where horrible...... I could go on but I won't.......:monkey:

That mismatch was done by teh greenhorn. Supposedly the first tree he fell. I saw the angled cut as soon as he began it...mostly because it is also a bad habit of mine.

Harry K

 

[Zackman1801]

yeah sometimes i get my face cuts a bit uneven but only an inch or so sometimes a few, but not 7-8, that cut was way uneven.

 

[056kid]

The way thoes fellas where falling is an old timer east coast method. Pretty much to get the tree separated from the stump without tearing up the log. Not much emphasis in falling direction. I dont like this method AT ALL but have seen some very big trees cut using it..

 

[windthrown]

I thought that is why I should use the Humbolt cut? Of course, I also use wedges. And I have a direction in mind when I fall a tree. Not that they always go that way, or do not get hung up in the canopy.

 

[slowp]

Discussion on the Landing Today

Here's the conversation, after those of us with only hardhats for protection briskly moved out of the timber and onto the landing--a frontal system went through with some pretty nasty winds.

Faller to me, "My saw won't run. I might have to see if you'll let me use Twinkle."

My reply. "Twinkle has the original handle on it and wouldn't do for you."

Boss. "Those old boys on that Extreme Logging were using the same handle as you have. So don't be using that for an excuse."

The faller's saw problem was fixed when he noticed the spark plug had come loose.

I'm not sure I like the effects that show has out in the woods. The wind died down and those of us left could get back up the hill.

 

[jburlingham]

Extream logging

It is an awesome show, I can't saw better axemen, because its a different type of show. But fantastic. I liked the swamp logging but the Mule logging was really great!!!!!!

 

[windthrown]

The bomb?

Welcome to AS, maybe...

 

[Hounddog]

I'm sure there are a lot of loggers out there that are better

better at cutting
better at filing
better at loading
better at handling mules
better looking (I would hope so anyway)

they also have better equipment like faster saws and stouter trucks

all I can say is that we get the job done and we is on the TV BIT:censored: ES!!!

 

[jburlingham]

The bomb?

Welcome to AS, maybe...

Thanks, I was just really impressed to see some guys doing it old school.


I also changed my sentance structure for you.

 

[Tree Sling'r]

Obviously wedges were not nessecary, if they would have been they would have filmed the situation.
I say give these guy's a break, just making a living. Seemed like good fella's. Maybe not what you or I do, but there sure seem to be a lot of comments from people who are better. Funny how that is.

 

[Zackman1801]

i dont mind that they cut badly at all, they seemed like really great guys though, i hate it when guys get on tv and parade around like they are gods gift and rant and rave in the their tough west coast logging language using fancy words and such and then when it comes time to start the saw we really see how good they are
these guys didnt do any of that they just went in, cut trees got them to the landing and went home. they didnt talk about how well they knew how to fall, they didnt say that they were better than anyone else at anything either.

 

[windthrown]

Thanks, I was just really impressed to see some guys doing it old school.


I also changed my sentance structure for you.

No need to, I understand what the bomb means (I have a 22 year old niece).

I was referring to the show/cutting quality with my question mark.

 

[windthrown]

Obviously wedges were not nessecary, if they would have been they would have filmed the situation.
I say give these guy's a break, just making a living. Seemed like good fella's. Maybe not what you or I do, but there sure seem to be a lot of comments from people who are better. Funny how that is.

Well, they may be good fella's and all, but I hate to see bad methods and judgement shown on TV. Its gives people bad examples and ideas.

 

[Gologit]

Well, they may be good fella's and all, but I hate to see bad methods and judgement shown on TV. Its gives people bad examples and ideas.

So does the six o'clock news.

 

[hammerlogging]

forestryworks, ever think about being a detective?

 

[John D]

How about the power of those mules! Im not sure i'd want to be doing that job,the mules seem to unpredictable when pulling. If they got spooked,I could imagine the carnage. I am amazed at the power the mules have.I have never seen them pull anything before,now i know how the old school woodsmen must have done it hundreds of yrs ago. Also got a laugh out of the Ford log truck,it looked way overloaded,had about 10 -12 2500+ lb logs on it ,very high center of gravity,gotta be careful on turns with it.No way it was over a 33K GVWR truck.

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

they also have better equipment like faster saws

Fast saws has nothing to do with nice proper safe stump cuts. A good cutter could use a 260 with an 16" bar and cut those trees from both sides. It might take a while but it will get to the ground safer, and have proper cuts.

In this neck of the woods the mills would dock the logs down in price because have to recut the stumps. And i would be embarrassed to drop them off.

 

[forestryworks]

forestryworks, ever think about being a detective?

ever think about being an investigative journalist? :greenchainsaw: