Do you guys think maybe

[wood rat]

That you recommend way to much saw for people asking what to get ?

I did some reading and a lot of you folks are either cutting 40 inch trees all day everyday or you are recommending big heavy saws for folks that don't need big heavy saws.

When I was newbie I at first got the biggest saw I could afford, wound up trading them off for mid level (mid weight) pro model saws that weighed a lot less and still cut like a rabid beaver .

Anyway just asking why some like the heavy saws and do you really need all that weight and horsepower ?

My favorite saws seem to be in the 60 cc 3.6 CI range, the power to weight ratio seems to be at the sweet spot there for me.

 

[RiverRat2]

That you recommend way to much saw for people asking what to get ?

I did some reading and a lot of you folks are either cutting 40 inch trees all day everyday or you are recommending big heavy saws for folks that don't need big heavy saws.

When I was newbie I at first got the biggest saw I could afford, wound up trading them off for mid level (mid weight) pro model saws that weighed a lot less and still cut like a rabid beaver .

Anyway just asking why some like the heavy saws and do you really need all that weight and horsepower ?

My favorite saws seem to be in the 60 cc 3.6 CI range, the power to weight ratio seems to be at the sweet spot there for me.

Great,,,, find what works for you and stick too it!!!!!

Welcome to Arborist Site,,,, BTW

 

[rahtreelimbs]

That you recommend way to much saw for people asking what to get ?

I did some reading and a lot of you folks are either cutting 40 inch trees all day everyday or you are recommending big heavy saws for folks that don't need big heavy saws.

When I was newbie I at first got the biggest saw I could afford, wound up trading them off for mid level (mid weight) pro model saws that weighed a lot less and still cut like a rabid beaver .

Anyway just asking why some like the heavy saws and do you really need all that weight and horsepower ?

My favorite saws seem to be in the 60 cc 3.6 CI range, the power to weight ratio seems to be at the sweet spot there for me.

On my serious side I say no!!!


The Stihl 361 and Dolmar 5100 have been recommended many times on here!!!


Remember I would rather have too much saw than not enough!!!

 

[Wood Hick]

Guys here offer up advice because they learned from their mistakes, myself included. If you are going to have one saw, it should be big enough to do anything but big timber felling, my opinion. Something you can hang a 16" to 24" bar on and git r done! Besides, if you enjoy this stuff you will not have only one saw for long!:greenchainsaw:

 

[computeruser]

Besides, if you enjoy this stuff you will not have only one saw for long!:greenchainsaw:

Pretty much.

 

[jhellwig]

Why do they make a 13 inch bar for the large husky bar mount pattern?


:greenchainsaw:

 

[RiverRat2]

I know,, I know,,,,,

Why do they make a 13 inch bar for the large husky bar mount pattern?


:greenchainsaw:

Balanse for tha SawTroll!!!!! :spam:

Just kidding Nikko,,,,,


as for your question Jhellwig,,, I havent a clue,,, really!!!! :monkey: :monkey: :monkey:

 

[wood rat]

best power to weight ratio thats what is most import don't you all agree ?

 

[chowdozer]

best power to weight ratio thats what is most import don't you all agree ?

Hmmm... so if you need a 36" bar you just work twice as long?

 

[rahtreelimbs]

So is this:

Technical data:

• Airmaster air filter system
• Tool-less filter maintenance
• Integrated chain brake
• Vibration damping
• Optimum chip flow through
• Automatic half-throttle lock
• Adjustable automatic oil pump
Model: PS-5100 S

Engine displacement: 49.9 (3.0) cc (cu. in.)

MAX engine speed (with bar & chain): 14,500 RPM

Power rating: 2.8 (3.8) kW (BHP)

Engine Manufacturer: DOLMAR

Fuel tank capacity: 15.6 oz

Oil tank capacity: 9 oz

NET weight without bar and chain: 11.2 lbs

Guide bar: 16 - 18 "

Optional guide bar: 20 "

Chain Pitch: 3/8 - 0.325 "

Chain gauge: .050 -.050 "




And this:

Technical data:

• Airmaster air filter system
• Tool-less filter maintenance
• Integrated chain brake
• Optimized vibration damping
• Lateral chain tensioning
• Decompression valve
• Optimum chip flow through
• Automatic half-throttle lock
• Adjustable automatic oil pump
Model: PS-7900

Engine displacement: 79 (4.8) cc (cu. in.)

MAX engine speed (with bar & chain): 13,500 RPM

Power rating: 4.5 (6.3) kW (BHP)

Engine Manufacturer: DOLMAR

Fuel tank capacity: 30.0 oz

Oil tank capacity: 13.5 oz

NET weight without bar and chain: 13.6 lbs

Guide bar: PHO (Power head only) "

Optional guide bar: 20, 24, 28, 32 "

Chain Pitch: 3/8 "

Chain gauge: .050 "

 

[computeruser]

Stock 361 isn't quite as exciting as it is in woods ported trim, and is a bit short on power to truly be an all-around saw. Ported, it is an excellent candidate for an all-around saw: it can do an honest job with a 16-28" bar range in hardwood.

That said, I think that the power-to-weight ratio on a muffler-modded Dolmar 7900 still beats the 361, since they weigh in surprisingly close to one another in actual fueled-and-ready-to-cut form.

 

[redprospector]

It really all depends on where you are, and what you're doing.
I live at about 9000' elevation, you will loose 3% of your power for every 1000' of elevation. That means that the 361 you showed the specs on shows 4.4 hp. at 9000' it drops to about 3 hp. which makes an 044, or 372 much more attractive in the power to weight ratio thing.
I don't particularly care to lug my 3120 around the woods all day, but a good 70 to 80 cc saw aint that heavy, and I can get what I need to done a little quicker.
But everyone has to pick their own saws to fit their needs. A lot of folks don't like to run anything over a 20" bar (some like 13" ), the shortest I run working is 28", but that's my preference.

Andy

 

[Cedarkerf]

Maybe its just from being from a big logging area and a family full loggers but since i got the 044 back around 91 the only thing smaller i use is 019t for tree work. I like making single cuts and what the 28" 044 wont cut the66 will with 32 or 41" bar. Reality most people prolly don't need em. I do find my bars buried quite often even had the 41" buried several times.

Wouldn't want to use a 20" bar in this setup.

 

[oldsaw]

Hmmm. I tend to recommend 50-60cc saws to people. Big enough to do some pretty decent sized jobs, small enough to do little stuff. So, does that mean that you are recommending bigger saws than me?

Mark

 

[KindlingKing]

That you recommend way to much saw for people asking what to get ?

I did some reading and a lot of you folks are either cutting 40 inch trees all day everyday or you are recommending big heavy saws for folks that don't need big heavy saws.

When I was newbie I at first got the biggest saw I could afford, wound up trading them off for mid level (mid weight) pro model saws that weighed a lot less and still cut like a rabid beaver .

Anyway just asking why some like the heavy saws and do you really need all that weight and horsepower ?

My favorite saws seem to be in the 60 cc 3.6 CI range, the power to weight ratio seems to be at the sweet spot there for me.

I've always recommended the MS200T to anyone who wants to carry a saw in a tree...... I also recommend the 036 MS361 to anyone who wants to cut firewood...... I won't hesitate to recommend a MS660 to someone who just needs to "Get 'er done". Guilty, guilty, guilty. :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[joesawer]

Why do they make a 13 inch bar for the large husky bar mount pattern?


:greenchainsaw:

Have you ever heard of a cookie cutter?
Just think of what a modified saw spinning a custom tuned chain around a short bar can do to a small peice of wood. But those saws have a custom modified bar as well.
Maybe those guys in Sweden need a 13" bar on a 365 to make bore cuts and walk around 16" trees.

 

[wood rat]

Ok glad to see most of us are on the same page so to speak.

Thanks for having me.

 

[oldsaw]

Stock 361 isn't quite as exciting as it is in woods ported trim, and is a bit short on power to truly be an all-around saw. Ported, it is an excellent candidate for an all-around saw: it can do an honest job with a 16-28" bar range in hardwood.

That said, I think that the power-to-weight ratio on a muffler-modded Dolmar 7900 still beats the 361, since they weigh in surprisingly close to one another in actual fueled-and-ready-to-cut form.

Cool picture

Mark

 

[wood rat]

Sure is

 

[West Texas]

Weelllllllll to stick my neck into the furnace, I'll have to say that over the past several years I've read many posts where someone has asked about whether they should buy either a 290 or 260 Pro (just using those as an example), and instead of answering that specific question, a bunch of people like me have said, "Oh don't do that, buy a 361 or a 460 or even a 660, 7900, etc etc" So I think its important for us to be as considerate of a person's query as possible, instead of telling them what 'we' like to use and trying to push that off on them. When I was a 'newbie' I was heavily influenced by the advice I got on this forum;and I believe other newbies are too. So its great for us to 'jack around' with each other; but, let's really go the extra mile for newbies, ask for more data, before we dump on them. OK Sock it to me. :chainsawguy: