Do you work with a bunch of drunks?

[jefflovstrom]

Actually, I'm kind of glad to wake this thread up. I don't think most of the drunks and stoners of this world will ever see the light, but maybe this thread will let them know how things are for the clear thinkers around them.

I hear ya, pdqdl!
Jeff

 

[ropensaddle]

give me all the negative rep you think i deserve. I negative repped you for the ignorant blanket statements you made about marijuana. I can run a saw very proficiently while stoned, trust me i have spent thousands of hours doing so. I have never had a saw or work related accident, i have also never wore chaps. Does this mean i am promoting unsafe working conduct because i dont wear protective gear? (aside from safety glasses, ear plugs, and hard hat)

I am perfectly happy with my life, things are going well for me i have a great girlfriend of 2 years, i cut firewood and thin trees for a main source of income, i dont drink or use any drugs aside from "pot". Oh and i got some great saws too, and a lot of other toys.

Yeah and methheads can work circles around you too lmfao:monkey: Any mind altering chemical and a chainsaw is a recipe for disaster and the most dangerous part is the user don't believe so:bringit:

 

[pdqdl]

This the post I made that inflamed BarkBuster into a red-repping frenzy:

Excuses, excuses.

I know a fair number of folks that have quit smoking both pot and cigarettes. Not one of them has ever said they regretted the choice.

I know even more people that have tried to quit, but failed. They generally admit that they would still quit if they could.

I don't know anybody that started smoking anything late in life that declared "Gee ! I sure wish I had started sooner!"

I have seen LOTS of young men ruin their lives by spending that weekly check on another stash of weed while the kids go hungry, the wife wishes for better things, and my employee just wastes it all on brain dilution. It doesn't matter if it is weed, cigarettes, booze, or any of the harder stuff. It all ruins your health, distorts your perception of reality, and wastes your money.

Justifying one bad habit by comparing it to another one is foolish.

An economic note: if you burn a pack of cigarettes per day (@ $3.00/pack), starting at 18 years old, by the time you are 65, you will have burned up your retirement. If invested at 10%, calculated on a avg daily balance, that will come to $1,196,489.03. Add a quart of beer at $2.00 per day, and a trip to a fast food at $5.00 per day, that comes to $3,988,296.78 you blew during your working years.


Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

He commented: "Oh boy, another stupid comment about pot."

Read it again, BB20. This time, try to see something good in it, instead of just a criticism of your lifestyle.

 

[treeclimber101]

Nothing says entertainment like hanging at a party of sober people , or is drinking and smoking pot OK when work is done?

 

[BarkBuster20]

Negative rep is pointless. Never done it, don't plan on it just for you, either.

If I disapprove of your comments, I will tell you in an open forum that lets everybody see what I have to say. I don't go sneaking in, interjecting discord and insult where no one else can see it. I consider that to be cowardly. I see from the personal messages on your public profile that you are in the habit of red-repping folks. Try to remember that you will reap what you sow.

If you want to defend your actions, take the time to quote my "ignorant blanket statements" and point out my errors. Then I will methodically rip your ill-informed and biased comments to shreds. Until that happens, your comments are like passing gas in a public area. They smell for a while, but they don't have any lasting effect.



Got a girl friend for a whole two years, eh? That's not setting any records, but I wish you well. If she is worth keeping, marry her. If not, you are wasting her time, as well as your own.

I don't keep score on who has the most toys. I'll never have all that I want, and what you have does not make me discontent with what toys I have.

"These are the four that are never content: that have never been filled since the dew began-
Jacala's mouth, and the glut of the kite, and the hands of the ape, and the eyes of Man."
— Rudyard Kipling (The Jungle Books)

The thing is i read this thread, i see how you and a few others have responded to marijuana ( i agree with you as far as the harder drugs go, and ESPECIALLY alcohol) users on this thread, so i was well aware of how you would react. The point im trying to make is i was and am not trying to defend my actions, i am simply not ashamed of my actions.

I was not bragging about how many "toys" i had i was merely stating that i had toys, i had a nice girlfriend, and i did work that i enjoy and i work for myself. I said this in response to this statement you directed towards me..

"Barkbuster: just keep on stoning your life away. I suspect that you need to be stoned so that you need not confront the grim reality you have turned your life into. It works that way with drunks, too. I suspect you like to mix your booze with your drugs for maximum effect too, eh?"

You seem a little un balanced... the comments you made above are quite disturbing, and they are the reason i shared information about my private life, in order to let you know i live a normal life, and i do not face a reality any more grim than anyone else, you seem bitter.

 

[pdqdl]

The people I like to hang out with are ALWAYS entertaining. They need to be charming, personable, concerned for the people around them, or I don't want to be there. They drink, or don't drink, it doesn't change their behavior or who they are. I don't hang out with stoners, as I have never met any that were charming, personable, and concerned for the people around them. I suppose they exist somewhere, but they haven't crossed my path.

Excessive consumption is the problem. If there is no balance, you just fall down. Literally or figuratively, the result is still about the same.

 

[treeclimber101]

The people I like to hang out with are ALWAYS entertaining. They need to be charming, personable, concerned for the people around them, or I don't want to be there. They drink, or don't drink, it doesn't change their behavior or who they are. I don't hang out with stoners, as I have never met any that were charming, personable, and concerned for the people around them. I suppose they exist somewhere, but they haven't crossed my path.

Excessive consumption is the problem. If there is no balance, you just fall down. Literally or figuratively, the result is still about the same.

Are you sure you don't hang with stoners how would you know , red eyes slured speech or the "munchies"

 

[BarkBuster20]

The people I like to hang out with are ALWAYS entertaining. They need to be charming, personable, concerned for the people around them, or I don't want to be there. They drink, or don't drink, it doesn't change their behavior or who they are. I don't hang out with stoners, as I have never met any that were charming, personable, and concerned for the people around them. I suppose they exist somewhere, but they haven't crossed my path.

Excessive consumption is the problem. If there is no balance, you just fall down. Literally or figuratively, the result is still about the same.

Oh your friends drink or they dont drink, but either way it doesnt change there behavior? Are you kidding me? alcohol changes a persons behavior more than ANY other drug. I have never noticed much of a behavior change in a stoned person, aside from them being more calm and easy going.

Your observasions seem way out of wack with mine, it is my belief that your reality is distorted, or your simply arrogent enough to believe whatevers clever in your "charming" head.

About excessive consumption, i would much rather be around a person who over consumes pot than alcohol.

 

[ropensaddle]

Are you sure you don't hang with stoners how would you know , red eyes slured speech or the "munchies"

I can spot a pot head easy, paranoia, indecisive on rather simple tasks,forgetfulness etc. Then dumb stuff happens like tractors going off trailers, chippers coming loose from trucks etc. I have had to supervise them twenty years and it is always the same, they have excuses that cover everything but the fact they have burnt their brain up with pot.

 

[ropensaddle]

About excessive consumption, i would much rather be around a person who over consumes pot than alcohol.

I will agree with that but that is as far as I will go.

 

[treeclimber101]

I can spot a pot head easy, paranoia, indecisive on rather simple tasks,forgetfulness etc. Then dumb stuff happens like tractors going off trailers, chippers coming loose from trucks etc. I have had to supervise them twenty years and it is always the same, they have excuses that cover everything but the fact they have burnt their brain up with pot.

I am talking about everyday life , meaning the guy at the gas station , or the sev, or even the guy working at the parts counter , do you men for me to believe that you can identify each and every one

 

[ropensaddle]

I am talking about everyday life , meaning the guy at the gas station , or the sev, or even the guy working at the parts counter , do you men for me to believe that you can identify each and every one

In five to ten minutes yup I will spot it.

 

[BarkBuster20]

Rope you could work with me all day and never have a clue i was a pot head, i know you wont believe me, but if the oppurtunity ever presents itself i would be more than happy to give you a free days worth of work (and i wont show up stoned) to prove to you. I really do have a solid work ethic, i take safety precautions and i work efficiently.

 

[pdqdl]

... The point im trying to make is i was and am not trying to defend my actions, i am simply not ashamed of my actions.

Huh? Until you woke up this two month old thread, nobody was reading it any more. Until you jumped into the middle of this, no one knew what your actions were, nor were they criticising you. Not ashamed? I guess not! I think you are proud of being a stoner.

I was not bragging about how many "toys" i had i was merely stating that i had toys, i had a nice girlfriend, and i did work that i enjoy and i work for myself. I said this in response to this statement you directed towards me..

BS! I never directed a statement at you. You have not posted in this thread prior to today. If you feel "hit" by my comments, it can only be because the truth hurts, and you can see yourself in my depictions of the sorry lives of some of the stoners I have known.

You seem a little un balanced... the comments you made above are quite disturbing, and they are the reason i shared information about my private life, in order to let you know i live a normal life, and i do not face a reality any more grim than anyone else, you seem bitter.

If my comments are quite disturbing to you, you should consider avoiding them by not provoking me. I'm glad that you live a normal life, and I really don't wish for anyone to have a life filled with "grim reality". My extensive experience with people that choose to stupify their brains has forced me to realize that drug & alcohol abuse=long term unhappiness.

Yes. I guess I am bitter about some things. I am angry and pissed off that there are so many people in this world doing so many stupid things to ruin their lives and the lives of the people around them. Comes along some prideful fellow who figures that his sense of self-worth has been punctured by my two month old observations about human behavior, and he pokes me in the back with a verbal stick. My response is pretty normal, too, don't you think?

Drugs & booze are just the beginning, don't get me started on crime, greed, or other varieties of selfish behavior. The very worst is prideful selfishness, which leads to most all of the other problems in life.

Tell me you weren't thinking of yourself and your injured pride when you started this little pissing match?

 

[ropensaddle]

Rope you could work with me all day and never have a clue i was a pot head, i know you wont believe me, but if the oppurtunity ever presents itself i would be more than happy to give you a free days worth of work (and i wont show up stoned) to prove to you. I really do have a solid work ethic, i take safety precautions and i work efficiently.

I may have a tougher time seeing it in some people but it always shows up I call them hiding hippies but even persons that have built up tolerance do things after a while that lets you know they smoke.

 

[treeclimber101]

I may have a tougher time seeing it in some people but it always shows up I call them hiding hippies but even persons that have built up tolerance do things after a while that lets you know they smoke.

I think you would have trouble with me too .. Even though I don't ever smoke pot at work , on my own free time you would not be able to tell me when I was stoned , drunk absolutely but "pot" not a chance .....

 

[pdqdl]

Oh your friends drink or they dont drink, but either way it doesnt change there behavior? Are you kidding me? ...

No. My friends don't get drunk. If we drink, it is because we are thirsty and feel like consuming whatever beverage we are drinking. If alcohol becomes important to our festivities, then it would spoil everything, both for them and for me. If their conduct were to become influenced by their drinking, I would not choose to be part of the group. I have no doubt that they are of a similar frame of mind.

I have a saying posted on the walls of my office. I wrote it about 15 years ago, so it won't appear in any other "famous quotations" I doubt that you will understand it, but give it a try:

Control your circumstances! DL

I will like people because of their intentions, not their actions.
I will judge them by their actions ONLY, and not at all by their words.
I will prefer to associate with people I admire, not just accept.
I will choose my friends from those that like me for what I am,
not for what I can do for them.

 

[ropensaddle]

I think you would have trouble with me too .. Even though I don't ever smoke pot at work , on my own free time you would not be able to tell me when I was stoned , drunk absolutely but "pot" not a chance .....

I may not be able to tell when you smoked but I would know you have. I learned to spot it at my last job.

 

[pdqdl]

I think you would have trouble with me too .. Even though I don't ever smoke pot at work , on my own free time you would not be able to tell me when I was stoned , drunk absolutely but "pot" not a chance .....

If you are stoned, I'll figure it out every time. It is essential to know the person pretty well before that is consistently possible.

Let's face it. You smoke pot to enjoy the effect that it has on you, right? I have never heard of any pot heads going down to the local dealer and asking for some more of "that bud with the delicate aroma" You don't smoke the stuff because of some special satisfaction you might have with the consumption of a premium product, you smoke it to get stoned.

You smoke it because it bombs your brain and makes you happy. To a non-stoner experienced at being around pot-heads, this becomes a pretty easy to spot emotional condition. Ever watch Cheech & Chong? Their performance was a greatly exaggerated parody of stoners, but they still got it right. Probably from experience.

 

[BarkBuster20]

If you are stoned, I'll figure it out every time. It is essential to know the person pretty well before that is consistently possible.

Let's face it. You smoke pot to enjoy the effect that it has on you, right? I have never heard of any pot heads going down to the local dealer and asking for some more of "that bud with the delicate aroma" You don't smoke the stuff because of some special satisfaction you might have with the consumption of a premium product, you smoke it to get stoned.

You smoke it because it bombs your brain and makes you happy. To a non-stoner experienced at being around pot-heads, this becomes a pretty easy to spot emotional condition. Ever watch Cheech & Chong? Their performance was a greatly exaggerated parody of stoners, but they still got it right. Probably from experience.

The more you say, the more apperent it is you have no idea what your talking about.