Dolmar 421, Stihl 250/251, 241 or 261

[birddogtg]

I got an idea,since you want a lighter smaller saw I'll trade you a ported 421 or a ported husky 550 for that 661.

 

[Michaelmj11]

I got an idea,since you want a lighter smaller saw I'll trade you a ported 421 or a ported husky 550 for that 661.

What I wish, is to be able to either add the MS241 and MS261 to the "Poll Question" to be able to redo it completely and have those saws listed.

Birddog, if either of those saws will hold up to cutting a 4 foot Osage Orange at the same rate and same manner as my 661 you got a deal.

 

[Michaelmj11]

Is there an easy say to get a moderators attention, or would posting things like curse words be the fastest way to get their help?

 

[SAWMIKAZE]

Is there an easy say to get a moderators attention, or would posting things like curse words be the fastest way to get their help?

Just be a pusssy and complain , that usually works.

 

[KG441c]

Just be a pusssy and complain , that usually works.

 

[Jimbo209]

buy the 2x 421 dolmars for about the ms241. strip and mod 1 run it and learn to tune (get a tacho as well). Ifff it goes sour then use the other and leave it with a conservative MM

 

[Michaelmj11]

Please NOTE gentleperson's, that the Great and powerful Moderator's have spoken, and Lo

You may now vote for the:
Stihl MS241
Stihl MS261

In the poll at the top of the thread. (Should you wish, you can even change your votes)

 

[KenJax Tree]

Everyone has their own wants and needs. I like the lightest saw available with the best PWR, but the 421 is an exception.


Try to run all the saws mentioned and pick the one you like.

A poll is just everyone giving THEIR opinion, YOUR'S is the only one that matters.
#patheticbuddies

 

[kantuckid]

You might take a look at my(somewhat) similar, recent thread, where I was looking for a smaller, yet powerful saw for old age...
I just read through this one and no disrespect but my thread got to a decent conclusion much faster
Honestly speaking, even this old fart could have downed the two small pole sized trees showing in the OP's picture ,(with a wally world poulan) in less time than I just spent wading through this thread!!!
You might want to note that almost zero stihl dealers stock the saw I just bought,241. I did find one at a new store as part of their initial display saw lineup. The new MSRP is $620.

 

[KenJax Tree]

You paid as much for your 241 than i did for my JRed 2260[emoji1]


#patheticbuddies

 

[Michaelmj11]

I just read through this one and no disrespect but my thread got to a decent conclusion much faster
0.

Well we have wandered far afield of the main topic in this thread, and yet still returned to the main topic (something most threads cannot accomplish without overt direction/instruction), and people must like talking with me more .

Honestly speaking, even this old fart could have downed the two small pole sized trees showing in the OP's picture ,(with a wally world poulan) in less time than I just spent wading through this thread!!!

Could the wally world Poulan have held up to doing that from 7am until 5:30 pm for three weeks straight? .....

 

[KG441c]

Well we have wandered far afield of the main topic in this thread, and yet still returned to the main topic (something most threads cannot accomplish without overt direction/instruction), and people must like talking with me more .



Could the wally world Poulan have held up to doing that from 7am until 5:30 pm for three weeks straight? .....

If u notice something though everyone including myself think there opinion is The Ten Commandments!!! Lol!! Nothin but a pissing match

 

[KG441c]

Michael if u want an opinion on someone who cuts daily Kenjax( Chris) is the one who would know. He likes the pricepoint of a 421 and I like the performance of a 241c

 

[kantuckid]

You paid as much for your 241 than i did for my JRed 2260[emoji1]


#patheticbuddies

I stated the new MSRP, nothing more. I said I found one. The real meaning behind that was that I wanted to hold the saw as I was in the middle of a deal to buy- the one I now have coming from CA.
Truth is, that if it came down the $621 plus 6% KY tax, I'd have bought either Jonsereds 2250, EchoCS361P or Husky 543XP to get into a lighter "senior saw". And, I'm like a kid in the candy store waiting on the 241

My intention was to share the simple fact that it's a very expensive saw and having seen the new price @ a new store(Rural King,Winchester,KY), I passed it along.

I bought a lightly used pawnshop saw.

I guess in 11,000 posts one has to be fast on the draw?

Like Joe Friday always said on Dragnet, "the facts mam, just the facts".

OP: As for the Poulan saw thing, lighten up, I was just teasing you based on a picture you used to show the size of trees, not the "how many" you can cut in a day/3weeks. I know you fellers down there in MS are hard workers.
You've been beating us in football for several yrs running!
Thus, I am not in a pissin match! Sorry if it bothered someone.

 

[CoreyB]

Go to each dealer and put each saw in some wood. Your decision would be a lot easier then having us confuse you with brand loyalty or projecting our wish list on you. You may find you base your decision solely on which dealer treats you better. And seems to care about you as a customer.

 

[KG441c]

I stated the new MSRP, nothing more. I said I found one. The real meaning behind that was that I wanted to hold the saw as I was in the middle of a deal to buy- the one I now have coming from CA.
Truth is, that if it came down the $621 plus 6% KY tax, I'd have bought either Jonsereds 2250, EchoCS361P or Husky 543XP to get into a lighter "senior saw". And, I'm like a kid in the candy store waiting on the 241

My intention was to share the simple fact that it's a very expensive saw and having seen the new price @ a new store(Rural King,Winchester,KY), I passed it along.

I bought a lightly used pawnshop saw.

I guess in 11,000 posts one has to be fast on the draw?

Like Joe Friday always said on Dragnet, "the facts mam, just the facts".

OP: As for the Poulan saw thing, lighten up, I was just teasing you based on a picture you used to show the size of trees, not the "how many" you can cut in a day/3weeks. I know you fellers down there in MS are hard workers.
You've been beating us in football for several yrs running!
Thus, I am not in a pissin match! Sorry if it bothered someone.

I think the man probably likes a quality product hence his purchase of a 661c being the highest dollar saw in the 90cc range. Dont think he is looking for a run of the mill farm and ranch pawn shop saw? If he wants to spend his money wisely it would be a dolmar 421 pro built saw for 300$ imo

 

[windthrown]

There is another old saying, You can lead a horse to water but u cant make him drink.....7 sleeper I see your perspective of saws, uses, applications, porting, to port or not to port, sizes in applications are all one sided and you are thinking u r 100% right about everything and thats the way it is? No sense in me posting videos, articles, or discussing porting to prove to you anything? Seems to me you have wasted alota time on here since 2008 getting yourself very confused and convincing yourself you are 100% right about everything

That is uncalled for... I have known 7 here and on some European sites. You are being a southern turd here, buddy. A real floater.

 

[KG441c]

That is uncalled for... I have known 7 here and on some European sites. You are being a southern turd here, buddy. A real floater.

So the man offers his opinion and pretty much tells me im lying and an idiot and I post my feelings in return and u have the right to call me a southern turd???? Lol!!!

 

[windthrown]

Well, you can really dish out your opinionated crap, like you claim that others do here. Case in point:

Dont buy into the myth that porting lessens dependability. Actually u are supplying the cylinder with more fuel, which is what cools the engine and not the oil, and opening the exhaust up and letting it breath and release more heat

You seem to think (and preach) that all ported saws are improvements over stock. Its not a myth and in many cases (that I have seen) porting most definitely can lower saw dependability and greatly reduce longevity. I have also run ported saws that were complete turds. I have seen ported saws lock up and fail rapidly. Racing saws are ported to the point of being useless for more than a few minutes before they overheat. Which is what they are intended to do for racing, but they are useless in the woods.

As 7 pointed out, there are many levels of porting. What you are referring to here is muffler modification and exhaust and intake port modification. That may increase breathing of the 2-stroke and improve performance, or it may not. They can be done right, within the capacity of the saw to function properly, and they can also be done wrong when things are taken too far and produce a useless saw. After muffler and port mods, there are cut squish and pop up mods that are intended to raise compression. That is where the real power from porting comes from. However, doing that (using the standard method of removing material from the base of the jug or removing the gasket) will change port timing, and that leads to all kinds of issues if you do not do other modifications to compensate. You can make a turd really fast by screwing up mechanical timing. You can also push the compression too high, and put way too much stress on the bearings and rod, leading to premature (or even rapid) failure. I have seen saw crews send saws out to be "woods" ported, and over the long haul, they failed a lot faster than their stock counterpart saws.

Bottom line, it is a fine line to get a saw right when being ported, and the herd of turds out there that have also been ported. I think it is a myth that saws will turn into magic machines if they are ported, and that people here all need to get their saws ported to run with the "big boys". I would rather have a stock MS290 in the hands of a pro faller than a ported MM 562xp in the hands of a novice. Who would fall more trees and stay out of trouble?

 

[7sleeper]

So the man offers his opinion and pretty much tells me im lying and an idiot and I post my feelings in return and u have the right to call me a southern turd???? Lol!!!

Well all you have stated is your opionion and all I did is state my opionion, if you feel like you do, well then nobody in the world can help you.

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