Drug Testing

[Nickrosis]

What's your policy at your company? Strikes? Zero-tolerance? Suspension?

I don't mean on the job use, because I would assume every company forbids that, but what about blood tests where use is determined going back weeks and months or more? What about urine tests? Randomly once a year? Daily? With a digital rectal exam as well?

I'm looking to put it into our company manual, and I'd be open to any quotes from other company manuals. Thanks!!

 

[Husky372]

i say what a man does on his own time is his busness as long as he does his job and is'nt using on your dime why do you care. just my .02

 

[Reed]

Drug testing, why?

Every single commercial on networks news last night - NBC-was for drugs that make flowers bloom, dogs's tails wag and children waving to you as you run along a beautiful path thru a wonderful park. Just ask your doctor about it. Every single commercial, even my wife noticed it.

Screw marketing profit-at-all costs American ways to squeeze more bucks before the big crash. I'll hire any good pot-smoking and beer drinking good-hearted person that knows how to work and how to dismiss himself off hours from the new realities of a drug-induced culture. Hypocracy at it's ultimate finest.

They should test for incompetence. Same with driving a vehicle. A National Stupidity test.

(Gee, I'm starting to sound like Bwalker!!)

 

[rumination]

the previous two posts pretty much say it all

 

[The Best GM]

Drug testing is the silliest thing ive heard in a while!!!!!

 

[Crofter]

How about some of the hard drugs that are so expensive you just about gotta be stealing to support a habit and you are a policeman. Or it is a drug than can have side affects even after 12 hours that could affect a pilot or Nuclear operator. I say if we are going to have testing lets have it for all elected office holders right up to the president. How much chance of that law passing?

Frank

 

[Base]

drug testing.....a nice easy way to start alienating some hard working people....

 

[NickfromWI]

Originally posted by Nickrosis
...I don't mean on the job use, because I would assume every company forbids that...

I wouldn't be too sure about that!

I would definately support drug testing at any company I worked at. I don't care if the user is doing it on "their own time." What you do the night before work affects how you behave during the next day. Drunk, high, or hung-over.....I don't want to deal with any of these. Our jobs are dangerous enough as it is...why would you support making it MORE dangerous!

love
nick

 

[jkrueger]

There is a native plant in this area that when you take it it will clear the system of what shows up in durg test. Dah, it is now about to be put on the endangered spieces list. To many knew about it.

Ya, I had the oportunity to work with a great climber who had on and off drug problems. We don't even talk any more, it is sad. And safer for me!

Jack

 

[Lumberjack]

Since I am friends with my groundies, and we hang out, I know what they do.


I will not hire/employ anyone that uses any drugs. If one of my groundies comes smellin like alcohol, then he is gone. There is plenty of hard workers without having to deal with the added crap of using illegal drugs, or excessive amounts of alcohol.

I aint got time for it.

 

[Nickrosis]

Well, I'm surprised by the responses because I hear so often about people taking a drug test before starting at a new job, etc. And of all places to work....

If anyone actually has a policy against drugs, I'd be grateful for the information. I know what you mean about losing good people, but I also think that a drug-free workplace is worth striving for.

 

[coydog]

we are subjected to a urine test if we get hurt on the job requiring a doctor's visit, cause $2000 or more property damage, or get into a traffic accident, regardless of fault.
if we test positive we are asked to sign a "last-chance agreement" and attend some sort of counseling, or be terminated.

 

[Lumberjack]

Originally posted by Nickrosis
...If anyone actually has a policy against drugs...

I do, it is a verbal policy, if any of my guys use any drug other than OTC and from the doctor, they are fired on the spot. If you come to work even smelling like alcohol, you are fired. If I hear about you doin something on your own time, you are fired.


NO DRUGS AT ALL AT ANY TIME

 

[Nickrosis]

But it's important to have a written set of policies to point to when things go wrong. Plus, it gives a new hire a sense of what is expected and required.

 

[Husky372]

i'm sorry but what a man does on his own time is his busness as long as it is'nt effecting his performance what do you care. now if he is comming to work smelling of alchohol or on drugs then obviously that is'nt his own time.

 

[Lumberjack]

Originally posted by Nickrosis
But it's important to have a written set of policies to point to when things go wrong. Plus, it gives a new hire a sense of what is expected and required.

True, I have thought of that.

If i was a multi crewed buisness, I bet that i would write it down.

The only thing i would point at is the road with my middle digit

 

[Guy Meilleur]

Let's see, the standard drug tests show pot use up to 30 days before, but cocaine gets out of your system in 3 or so.

The tests are useless at detecting what matters. I don't heat the chalice, but if someone inhaled (even 2nd hand) 3 weeks ago, how is that going to make them a lesser or more dangerous employee?

That last chipper death we heard about involved drinking, right? Would a drug test have kept that guy off the job? No.
The worst drug-related problems I've had with coworkers were with alcohol. And we all have a test kit for that--our noses.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Thank you.

 

[Joe]

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[okietreedude1]

Theres a company policy at our place and its pretty much a testing before hiring. There is also a 'drug free workplace' idea but noone has been tested w/o due cause.

Like has been said, if there's a major accident that should have been prevented, a test may come to order. Most of the guys weve had that were doing drugs when confronted, addmitted it and were let go. they understood why.

As for the routine testing, Im okay w/ it. In my opinion, the guy who refuses to take a UA is hiding something and there fore guilty until he proves himself innocent. Id take one in a second just to show everyone im not above them.

I like what nick said, this job is dangerous enough w/o the drug influenced on site. Not just for my safety, but his as well.