P_woozel
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Hey, Ben, Crofter, ehp. A customer gave me 2 5gal cans of Elf race fuel, 93 octane LMS is this okay to run in my work saws? Why can it be stored in these metal cans without stabilizers etc. And is it okay for mix gas?
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Your saws will run great on it. Just be aware that it might be oxygenated and may require your HS screw be turned up a little.
Race fuel stored in metal cans will last a very long time if unopened. The reason pump fuel goes to heck in plastic cans is because its quality is dubious at best and the light ends of the fuel will evaporate right through the plastic. Water vapor will also penatrate the plastic. Once the light ends are gone and the water is inside the tank the remaining fuel begins to oxidize. This leads to the smell everyone has caught a wiff of, the hard starting and the plugged up carb parts.
Race fuel stored in metal cans will last a very long time if unopened. The reason pump fuel goes to heck in plastic cans is because its quality is dubious at best and the light ends of the fuel will evaporate right through the plastic. Water vapor will also penatrate the plastic. Once the light ends are gone and the water is inside the tank the remaining fuel begins to oxidize. This leads to the smell everyone has caught a wiff of, the hard starting and the plugged up carb parts.
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Below is a link to a good article on fuel in regard to octane requirements, net energy and cooling effect, something widely argued.
I doubt that your work saws warrant the extra expense, but you can be sure that fuel stability will be much better than the village pump gas.
http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcnuts/rt-fuel1.html
Sorry about that.
I doubt that your work saws warrant the extra expense, but you can be sure that fuel stability will be much better than the village pump gas.
http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcnuts/rt-fuel1.html
Sorry about that.
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Frank, Your link didnt show.
Good article, Frank. The author campaigns a two stroke motorcyle called the tu-laris. It uses a two stroke 800 cc twin cylinder Polaris snowmobile engine in a modern race chassis of his own design. This bike is blinding fast, yet very light.
BTW The one error Tulie nakes is saying that race fuel burns slower. This is simply false. the fastest burning fuesl available are pro stock drag fuels that are also very high octane.
BTW The one error Tulie nakes is saying that race fuel burns slower. This is simply false. the fastest burning fuesl available are pro stock drag fuels that are also very high octane.
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Ben I missed that, but he does follow it immediately with this "A high octane rating itself, however, does not mean that the fuel is slow burning. Hence, it has no direct bearing on the power characteristics of the fuel."
They are coming out with some new race fuels now that are stretching the envelope. It is off this topic, but the same thing sure has happened in the reloading field with the new progressive powders that would have had your gun in pieces with the powders available 20 years ago.
They are coming out with some new race fuels now that are stretching the envelope. It is off this topic, but the same thing sure has happened in the reloading field with the new progressive powders that would have had your gun in pieces with the powders available 20 years ago.
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Without a doubt, Frank. Funny thing is most of these "new" things they are putting in fuels have been around for a very long time. They are just now being capitalised on.
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octane
the lowest posible octane a motor can stand without pinging will produce more power the higher the octane takes more pressure ( compression) to take advantge of the fuel .Some fuel have a low octane but a fast burn rate works great with a short stroke motor and some fuels of the same octane have a slow burn rate that works great with a long stroke motor they even have fuels that carry oxygen inhancers (NOS) look at www.vp racing.com and you will learn alot about fuel
the lowest posible octane a motor can stand without pinging will produce more power the higher the octane takes more pressure ( compression) to take advantge of the fuel .Some fuel have a low octane but a fast burn rate works great with a short stroke motor and some fuels of the same octane have a slow burn rate that works great with a long stroke motor they even have fuels that carry oxygen inhancers (NOS) look at www.vp racing.com and you will learn alot about fuel
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That link does not work for me.
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P_woozel
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Thanx for the info guys. It was a bonus from the customer, I may sit on it for a bit if it stores okay.
