Falling pics 11/25/09

[RandyMac]

Overcutting is a beginner's mistake. When the tree doesn't fall, they keep on sawing in hope the tree will obey.
From the photo, the tree decided to do it's own thing.

 

[Gologit]

Overcutting is a beginner's mistake. When the tree doesn't fall, they keep on sawing in hope the tree will obey.
From the photo, the tree decided to do it's own thing.

I watched a guy do that on a small cedar. I guess he was just in la-la land because he went high on the back and sawed it clear out. And it just sat there, teetering a little. The guy woke up pretty fast and grabbed a wedge and as soon as he got a gap he hammered it in and took off running the other way. It worked.

And, no it wasn't me. I was on the next strip...yelling "run damn ya, run!". He didn't think that was very funny.

 

[Metals406]

Get to do some falling this week. . . Hopefully pics/vids will happen. :smile2:

 

[paccity]

Get to do some falling this week. . . Hopefully pics/vids will happen. :smile2:

ben quiet around here lately. lookin forward to it.

 

[RandyMac]

ben quiet around here lately. lookin forward to it.

Which route are you using to head south?

 

[paccity]

Which route are you using to head south?

depends on what day i head down. was kina thinkin i-5 and cutting over at rosberg then 101. strait down is 9+.

 

[RandyMac]

It will be good to see you. Anything I can bring for you?

 

[paccity]

heck just your self and the gift of gab.:msp_wink:. if we figure anything out down there may be i can snag it on the return leg. you need to remind me what i have back logged for you and anyone else down that way i might have spaced off.

 

[tramp bushler]

Ron ; tho being a mean ol prik isn't one of the Fruits of the Spirit, it does come in handy when the galutes show up.

There's an old Bushlers saying " Show me a lean and I'll show you a lay"
From the pic of the stob it looked like it wanted to go over the back cut.
I'd take a club t someone that did that to one of my saws, and people around me know it.

If one of my saws is gonna get wrecked, I'll wreck it myself thank you very much.


That tree was a train wreck to start with so really you did OK.

 

[tramp bushler]

You must of been hanging around Randy too much with such a flock of old Cully's :msp_sneaky::rolleyes2:

 

[rwoods]

Ron ; tho being a mean ol prik isn't one of the Fruits of the Spirit, it does come in handy when the galutes show up.

There's an old Bushlers saying " Show me a lean and I'll show you a lay"
From the pic of the stob it looked like it wanted to go over the back cut.
I'd take a club t someone that did that to one of my saws, and people around me know it.

If one of my saws is gonna get wrecked, I'll wreck it myself thank you very much.


That tree was a train wreck to start with so really you did OK.

As I mentioned in a reply to Randy in the MAC thread, I cut it exactly backwards trying to put it down just to the right of the property line but in the field to the right. It fell to the side with the thicker holding wood on the left turning it further to the left. Most of it made into the right field but not all of it as planned. The facecut was solid and I assumed that the bulk of the tree was as well but we all know about assumptions. The remaining slab was exactly as you described but I thought I could wedge it over so I stuck with the original direction. Other than everybody watching you and trying to account for them during this cut, big old trees in the open or along edges are less stressful to me than cutting 15" to 18" snags in the woods. Ron

 

[slowp]

Ron, do you have a safety talk before starting work each day? The two organizations I've done work with start the day with a safety talk. It is the same one and is repetitious, but they have to do it because the crew members change each day and usually totally new people turn up.

Then when we break up, the sawyer is in charge of the people working around him/her. That is made clear during the initial meeting. The first rule in sawing is to make sure everybody is clear, and stays clear.

When I've been called to be a lookout on a road during hazard tree falling, the same goes. The sawyer basically assigns everybody a spot to be in, and STAY at.

They are firm, but polite. They have to be.

 

[northmanlogging]

these be the only pics I could get away with from yesterday... and one was take'n on the fly while me and the wifey were on walksies... sorry no stump shots...

 

[rwoods]

Ron, do you have a safety talk before starting work each day? The two organizations I've done work with start the day with a safety talk. It is the same one and is repetitious, but they have to do it because the crew members change each day and usually totally new people turn up.

Then when we break up, the sawyer is in charge of the people working around him/her. That is made clear during the initial meeting. The first rule in sawing is to make sure everybody is clear, and stays clear.

When I've been called to be a lookout on a road during hazard tree falling, the same goes. The sawyer basically assigns everybody a spot to be in, and STAY at.

They are firm, but polite. They have to be.

Short answer: No, nothing really beyond a breakfast prayer for no injuries. Ron

 

[slowp]

Sounds like time to sit down and regroup.

https://www.rit.edu/~w-outrea/training/Module2/M2_JHA.pdf

The link is to a site with a job hazard analysis. We also go over that, and since we work on Forest Service, we all sign off on it. That is also part of the prework safety meeting.

 

[Gologit]

Sounds like time to sit down and regroup.

https://www.rit.edu/~w-outrea/training/Module2/M2_JHA.pdf

The link is to a site with a job hazard analysis. We also go over that, and since we work on Forest Service, we all sign off on it. That is also part of the prework safety meeting.

I started to read that but it made me thirsty for a cup of coffee. I made some and then needed some cake to go with it and...

 

[rwoods]

Slowp, thanks for your posts and link. Short of an injury, I am trying to get these guys' attention. Like most of us, volunteers can be independent and stubborn. I'm pretty bullheaded myself. I didn't wear eye protection until about ten or fifteen years ago when a saw picked something up and hit me in the eye - no damage but it almost took me to my knees. I didn't wear hearing protection (except while shooting) until my dad went practically deaf after years of running his planers. I first bought my chaps as a "cool" accessory. I learned my respect for working around chainsaws from my father's instruction, but I learn my respect for operating one through personal injury. And I learned my respect for tree falling through near misses and being close to a logger's death and a weekend warrior's total incapacitation. There is too much potential for death and injury to expect everyone to learn that way which is why I am not giving up.

To avoid anyone from getting torqued and risk my ability to influence them, I am going to delete or edit my earlier posts to make them less personal.

Thanks again, Ron

 

[slowp]

I started to read that but it made me thirsty for a cup of coffee. I made some and then needed some cake to go with it and...

Then you should put that down on your hazard analysis. Sounds like it could be dangerous!:msp_ohmy:

 

[Gologit]

Then you should put that down on your hazard analysis. Sounds like it could be dangerous!:msp_ohmy:

Only to my waistline. Blackberry cake.

 

[tramp bushler]

Ron ; One thing you can do if you have any question of weather the wood you need is sound enough to do what you need it to is bore it. We do lots of boring when falling and grade bucking. . If your running full skip 404 it can be pretty rough and quite lively sometimes. But it really does help to know what is really sound and what just looked that way from the outside.
If you haven't done much vertical boring there are some tricks that make it doable and a lot safer. .