bitzer
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Thanks for the history on that. I still think its a little funny. I love that old timer terminology. Gotta keep that stuff around.
Real nice pics again Sam!
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Thanks for the history on that. I still think its a little funny. I love that old timer terminology. Gotta keep that stuff around.
Real nice pics again Sam!
forestryworks
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Well I ain't been on the saw in a month. I think it shows in this video 
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No Pictures, A Story
This story was told to me today, on the landing. The story teller was told the story by his father.
The place? The Harbor Country. I suspect that is the area around Gray's Harbor. WA which is on the coast. The time? When trees of 16 foot diameter were cut by men with misery whips.
Two guys came into the logging camp looking for work as fallers. They had their pants tucked into their boots so they looked like they were "Farmer Loggers." Calling somebody a Farmer Logger is an insult, and is still done today.
Apparently, saws were handed out to fallers by the company. So, thinking that these guys were merely Farmer Loggers, a joke was played on them. They were given short saws. Four foot long misery whips, which were too small to cut anything with.
At the end of the day, these guys came back all tired and said they were quitting as it was too much work to cut the trees this way. They got paid and left. The other guys were laughing about the Farmer Loggers.
The company guys went out to see what had happened. They saw that the Farmer Loggers had been climbing the trees using springboards up to where the trees were small enough to fit the saws, and had cut quite a few trees this way. They had worked 90 feet up in some of the trees.
The company guys realized that they had lost a couple of very good workers that day.....
This story was told to me today, on the landing. The story teller was told the story by his father.
The place? The Harbor Country. I suspect that is the area around Gray's Harbor. WA which is on the coast. The time? When trees of 16 foot diameter were cut by men with misery whips.
Two guys came into the logging camp looking for work as fallers. They had their pants tucked into their boots so they looked like they were "Farmer Loggers." Calling somebody a Farmer Logger is an insult, and is still done today.
Apparently, saws were handed out to fallers by the company. So, thinking that these guys were merely Farmer Loggers, a joke was played on them. They were given short saws. Four foot long misery whips, which were too small to cut anything with.
At the end of the day, these guys came back all tired and said they were quitting as it was too much work to cut the trees this way. They got paid and left. The other guys were laughing about the Farmer Loggers.
The company guys went out to see what had happened. They saw that the Farmer Loggers had been climbing the trees using springboards up to where the trees were small enough to fit the saws, and had cut quite a few trees this way. They had worked 90 feet up in some of the trees.
The company guys realized that they had lost a couple of very good workers that day.....
forestryworks
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That's a good story, slowp. Thanks for sharing it.
Logging of those days was crude and primitive, with lots of wood wasted... from what I've read here and other places and various books. But there were a lot more colorful characters back then as well.
Logging of those days was crude and primitive, with lots of wood wasted... from what I've read here and other places and various books. But there were a lot more colorful characters back then as well.
RandyMac
Stiff Member
90 feet?!!
I have gone with three sets of staging, call it 12 feet.
Jameson, I hit you on FB
I have gone with three sets of staging, call it 12 feet.
Jameson, I hit you on FB
Yes, 90, ninety feet is how it was told today. This story cannot be confirmed or denied, but it is a good tale whether true or not.
I also heard the term, "Walking a tree around" today. Which is some way to swing a leaner around. I still don't understand it because I haven't seen it done. I'm kind of dumb that way.
Oh, and that wood was not wasted. That wasted wood, if it survived burning, is now something to be protected.
The old culls are now called "Legacy Logs" by the various biologists and add to the diversity of the second growth forest.
Buffers are placed around them. Whoda thunk that!
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RandyMac
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I know what you are talking about, I have done it, there are a few ways to do it. Burv can put it into fewer words. It involves more attention to the backcut, what you leave as much as what is cut. A narrow blockcut, with the snipe cut to favor one side, for the hinge, leaving a bit of a "post" off center to the side where the swing wants to be. Then you cut the hinge wood thin on the other side, as the tree tilts, the butt will contact the outside corner of the snipe giving it the "swing" part. The trunk will continue forward and sideways until it finds the hole left by the snipe, it will start ripping the hinge on the far side as it pivots on the post, full contact on the snipe will give the stem a good twist before launching it off the stump. There are other variations, this one works well with tall and heavy trees.
Well I ain't been on the saw in a month. I think it shows in this video
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Jameson, when did you get the 660?
forestryworks
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Back in June.
Did ya buy her new?
forestryworks
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Bought it used. 066.
Rounder
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I also heard the term, "Walking a tree around" today. Which is some way to swing a leaner around. I still don't understand it because I haven't seen it done. I'm kind of dumb that way.
-Not sure if this is what you're talking about, cuz terminology varies a lot by region, but around here it involves using three face cuts, each bigger than the last. You take just enough holding wood to get it to lay in the first face (the smallest) and repeat twice more. It'll "walk" the tree right around if yer careful to save enough holding wood for that last face, usually not much left by the time you get to that last face, if you don't chair it before you get there. Don't work to well on Ponderosa, or other brittle trees, but works pretty slick on fir - Sam
-Not sure if this is what you're talking about, cuz terminology varies a lot by region, but around here it involves using three face cuts, each bigger than the last. You take just enough holding wood to get it to lay in the first face (the smallest) and repeat twice more. It'll "walk" the tree right around if yer careful to save enough holding wood for that last face, usually not much left by the time you get to that last face, if you don't chair it before you get there. Don't work to well on Ponderosa, or other brittle trees, but works pretty slick on fir - Sam
Both times I've heard about it, they stressed that the biggest danger was that the tree would sit back and you could then be in some trouble. Also, not a good technique for beginners to try. Both these guys cut back in the old growth big tree days.
bitzer
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Good Vids Jameson! Some had to have the balls to put one on here! Good show.
A soft Dutchman will get the tree to walk around the stump. It can get hairy too if the saw does sit back. Its just making several kerfs under the main gunning kerf. If its done right it gradually changes the lean until you can bring it out to your face.
A soft Dutchman will get the tree to walk around the stump. It can get hairy too if the saw does sit back. Its just making several kerfs under the main gunning kerf. If its done right it gradually changes the lean until you can bring it out to your face.
Boom! I hit ya too!
forestryworks
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More from yesterday.
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Metals406
Granfodder Runningsaw
I iz jealous. . . These snags are a great experience for you.
Only 300 to go and you're done!
bitzer
******** Timber Expert
Hey Jameson, did you notice she was limb-locked before hand or were you hoping she'd push through? Just wondering if you had the other one cut up some first.
forestryworks
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I was hoping that one limb on the bigger snag would break as it tipped. No go. Lesson learned! Was a big limby pine... almost bull pine status.
