Falling wedges. What's good, what's not, and why?

[stihl 440]

Somebody help me i cant find the sad fiddle smiley.....

 

[Gologit]

From the way I take it there is pattern to my haters rants, they have no clue as to what my world is like. I was lucky to even get the few years in the brush before the industry died where I was living. There are few on here whom that a got the chance to cut in the old days before pecker pole logging became the norm. I was taught by guys that were starting to retire from the timber falling business. They were the lucky ones,a lot of us end up doing any job available to survive and pay bills. My dad was the one saving grace after I got hurt, gave me work to pay bills an be able to have food on the table. I am not a poser like so many claim I am. I many not have hundred years like some of these guys, I am knowledge able enough to ask for help. There is no one on this planet smart enough to know everything about tree fallen. How many of the AS people know of the ecomomic collapse happening in Central Oregon, If you have a job your lucky and had better fight to keep it.

If you're not a poser, why did you delete the threads where you claimed to be a "pro faller" ?

Most of the guys on here were willing to give you the benefit of the doubt...and most did. But when all your various stories contradicted each other, when you became defensive and vague when asked for simple facts about your background, and when you ran sniveling to the moderators when we called you out for what you really were, we lost all respect for you.

Why not take your act on the road? You have no credibility here. You've waffled, and backtracked, and flat out lied enough times that if you told us a tree was made out of wood we'd probably want a core sample before we believed you.

Give us all a break and go play logger somewhere else. You're tiresome. And, worse than that, you don't seem to learn.

 

[Cedarkerf]

Pacific yew

Went out got a couple pics of a 10 inch diameter pacific yew. You can see the puplish bark in the pic of the stem. Hard to get a good pic under the canopy when that brite round things in the sky.

 

[RandyMac]

I always liked those wedges that had red paint on them.

 

[indiansprings]

Nice picture Randy, but what in hell are you doing with that nice level back cut, don't you know it's supposed to be a 45 degree angle,roflmao. Keep on posting those old pics, good stuff!

 

[stihl 440]

Nice picture Randy, but what in hell are you doing with that nice level back cut, don't you know it's supposed to be a 45 degree angle,roflmao. Keep on posting those old pics, good stuff!

We are all doing it wrong...we should all use the 45 degree backcut........NOT! Keep positing the pics randy...its nice to see that big softwood hitting the ground.

 

[056kid]

Hey 056!

My friend just bought an 056 to use for milling. I picked it up. It has enough weight to be a good boat anchor. :msp_smile: It also looks to be in excellent condition.

Naa they are not that bad.

 

[lfnh]

Just to be clear, post #364 was written because I figured someone unfamiliar reading this thread on wedges might find the link to figuring lift useful. Ok, the first 3 comments were a little scarcastic. ignore em.

I did not intend the post as a lightning rod.

I appolgize if it did become one. Sorry bout that. Lee

 

[mdavlee]

Thanks for that link. I had never seen a chart that figured lift like that. That gives me a better idea how far a tree can be wedged over now. :msp_thumbsup:

 

[1375619cm3]

Switched to this setup this year, got tired of stuffing my beater in the back of my belt. A pain in the butt, literally.

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This is much better. The harness and scabbard came from a little company over in Smelterville, Id. They make a lot of nice stuff for fallers.

That is the famous tape nail that Cody likes to speak of on the end of the tape. Works good.

I'm not too picky about wedge brand. Don't really need anything over ten inches around here. Like I said before, I really like the 7.5" Stihl wedges when a tree spits a wedge. They can really go where no other wedge can.

The axe has a 3 pound head, which suits me just fine

A little off topic (not that it probably matters here, lol), but I bought myself a new pair of Viberg Calks after work today. I wish everything was made as well as those boots.

Take care - Sam

Nice Rig Set Up. What is the two curved pieces of leathers for?

*** Cancel the question reading on past this quote has answered the question thanks anyways***

 

[Philbert]

Just to be clear, post #364 was written because I figured someone unfamiliar reading this thread on wedges might find the link to figuring lift useful.

I did not intend the post as a lightning rod.

It was a very interesting reference and appropriate for the thread topic.

Philbert

 

[2dogs]

So now you are a faller again huh? Did your friend teach you how to farmer cut big trees too? You have no credibility here. Get it?

So HRH PNW HBRN there is a question unanswered between us. WHO did you work as a faller for? And, what years? OK two questions. I don't believe you worked as a pro-faller as you seemed to claim. A pro-faller gets paid to fall trees for a logging company or a contract cutter. Not by his dad. "Falling" for dad is fine but that doesn't make you a pro. I felled firewood trees for my dad. We needed the firewood and had an endless supply of oaks. I still fall firewood trees and that sure as heck does not make me a professional.

This is just between you and me. I don't believe you were ever a pro-faller, just a wood hack like me. Yes I work in the tree business but I know there is a big difference between my skills and those of a professional faller. I read the nonsense you post here and I don't wonder at all why you refuse to post your true identity or back up your numerous claims of "old boy" teachers with real facts. You indeed are a poser. But if I am wrong then prove me wrong with facts not stories. I would be happy to apologise right here if I'm wrong. I will PM you my cell phone number if you would rather tell me these facts in person. I've spoken to several members over the years on various subjects.

Oh and by the way what part of a yarding operation is the mainline? You made mention of that in the "religion" thread and never answered my question.

Now I don't believe you will respond to anything I have posted here, just more whining about haters and idiots. But do you understand you have no credibilty here? I don't think there is a person here who does not think you are a poser or as your profile says, unemployed redneck.

Waiting breathlessly for your reply, Bill

 

[HILLBILLYREDNEC]

The wire rope attached to the buttrigging that is used to pull logs to the landing. And like I have told you guys before I was gypo faller, I work for who ever had work. Most of the people who like to twist my words have never worked in my region and know nothing about this regional vocabulary difference. A lot of people on here think I am a scissor bill

 

[slowp]

I'll post this one again. A lot of wedging for a small tree. I believe the blue wedges are the ones that I found the most (in a small piece) on the ground in the woods.

[video=youtube_share;CJWn5qd36ys]http://youtu.be/CJWn5qd36ys[/video]

 

[2dogs]

Limb locked trees like that try my patience. You just have to wedge and trim and wait for nature to take its course. Limb locked and pushing back, like what it appeared these guys had, is even worse. Putting in the backcut and wedge first is a good idea. Sort of like jacking with a wedge.

 

[slowp]

Yay! You are still alive!

I am yawning. I just spent two nights sharing a queen sized bed with The Used Dog. Night one he positioned rear end to my head. Nope, no gastric problems. but pointy hocks in my back. Last night, he was feeling more sociable so it was head to head with breathing on my neck.

We were camping in a cow pasture out in the woods, to escape the concussive fireworks that were going off in my neighborhood.

Back on topic...sort of...should he have "used the blue wedge"? Which, I think he actually may have done.

 

[2dogs]

Yay! You are still alive!

I am yawning. I just spent two nights sharing a queen sized bed with The Used Dog. Night one he positioned rear end to my head. Nope, no gastric problems. but pointy hocks in my back. Last night, he was feeling more sociable so it was head to head with breathing on my neck.

We were camping in a cow pasture out in the woods, to escape the concussive fireworks that were going off in my neighborhood.

Back on topic...sort of...should he have "used the blue wedge"? Which, I think he actually may have done.

I appreciate your concern, yep alive. I should be able to work again in a day or two. My dogs hate fireworks! The male shook for hours last night when the neighbors put on their 90 minute show complete with mortars. I should have taken them camping.

Time is your friend when dealing with the limb locked tree. You can see these guys are not rushing or excited. They did just fine. I'm guessing the blue wedge is a 10" Madsen's brand. Which one they used was no big deal.

 

[RandyMac]

Yep, little trees, not limb locked can be a pain.

 

[dave k]

Just a couple of pics of the wedges and large and small felling levers I carry in the jeep so I have what I may need job to job. The alloy wedges are good but not for dragging a big site and the Hi lift wedge is very handy and I've just realised I've lost one !! I use a Husky maul to drive wedges I like the straight handle. Philbert has very kindly got the pics to show without clicking through them below ! Thanks,

 

[Philbert]

Just a couple of pics of the wedges and large and small felling levers I carry in the jeep so I have what I may need job to job. The alloy wedges are good but not for dragging a big site and the Hi lift wedge is very handy and I've just realised I've lost one !! I use a Husky maul to drive wedges I like the straight handle.

(images uploaded for ya - Philbert)