Falling wedges. What's good, what's not, and why?

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Wow, can't believe this thread is still running along. Great stories and info boys from all over the place!

Thanks for the clarification on the hay saw too! That makes sense now. The saws I've seen used in pictures for cutting ice look like one man hand saws. I've also seen some circular saw set-ups that look like walk behind concrete saws. Hope you all had a good fourth!
 
Lots of info here... all of this (other than HBRN's crap) will be useful for me when I get to drop a tree.


Hey HBRN, show us some pictures, and diagrams of your falling technique, etc. and maybe we will believe you...


probably not...


Hell, I haven't even dropped a tree yet, but I even know that your supposed logging technique is not a good idea... I may be a little dumb, but I ain't stupid. If I was stupid, I wouldn't have all of my fingers...
 
promac610 said:
Lots of info here... all of this (other than HBRN's crap) will be useful for me when I get to drop a tree.


Hey HBRN, show us some pictures, and diagrams of your falling technique, etc. and maybe we will believe you...


probably not...


Hell, I haven't even dropped a tree yet, but I even know that your supposed logging technique is not a good idea... I may be a little dumb, but I ain't stupid. If I was stupid, I wouldn't have all of my fingers...
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Rep sent, not so much for the post but for the avatar picture.
 
promac610 said:
Lots of info here... all of this (other than HBRN's crap) will be useful for me when I get to drop a tree.


Hey HBRN, show us some pictures, and diagrams of your falling technique, etc. and maybe we will believe you...


probably not...


Hell, I haven't even dropped a tree yet, but I even know that your supposed logging technique is not a good idea... I may be a little dumb, but I ain't stupid. If I was stupid, I wouldn't have all of my fingers...
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Never even cut a tree?! DAMN, your worse than HBRN!! Im gonna make big time fun of you!!!!







































Just kidding:msp_tongue:
 
HILLBILLYREDNEC said:
You call me a hacker check this out. These are certified FS chainsaw operators :dizzy: :hmm3grin2orange: :msp_ohmy:

YouTube - ‪Ashley National Forest Hazard Trees Part 4 of 6 (Poll Creek)‬‏
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They were slow and left the hinge thick but workmanship was nice. The trees hit the ground where they were gunned. They looked like inexperienced sawyers who played it safe and didn't use any farmer cuts. The wind can be your friend or your enemy. And guys...look UP when you are pounding and work as a team.

Reverend HBRN are you better than these guys?
 
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2dogs said:
They were slow and left the hinge thick but workmanship was nice. The trees hit the ground where they were gunned. They looked like inexperienced sawyers who played it safe and didn't use any farmer cuts. The wind can be your friend or your enemy.

Reverend HBRN are you better than these guys?
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probably not...
 
In the other video that mr. billy posted the faller was a little nervous and shakey. Kind of unsure of where he was. He got the job done, but had to re-cut the face about 10 times and I don't get the 1/3 throttle thing. Also did not look up at the most important part, when the tree started to tip. He was watching his wedge moving. They could of edited that thing down to about 5 minutes also, maybe less. Eh, whatever. So is that pastor billy in that video?
 
I will confess that I am a certified by the FS until November as a bucker.

Speed is not stressed. Safety is. I've seen the videos and been to a falling meeting or two. The whole thing is about safety. The FS people are not production fallers.

We kind of need NW Axeman to do input. I've done a bit of traffic control while the FS fallers were taking down trees in campgrounds. We have people on trails and roads to stop folks from wandering in. It may be overkill, but it is the safest way. The whole certification program started because there were injuries and fatalities. Guys used to go buy a saw and show up at fire camp and get hired as a faller. Falling bosses used to bring them back into camp after seeing they were not fallers.

The process goes slow. The faller starts cutting. We others are about two tree lengths away, which is a lot in the Iron Creek Campground. When he has the notch in, he radios that he is starting the backcut and checks that everybody is out of the way. That's our cue to stay put and make sure nobody enters the area. The tree topples. We wait for an all clear, then we can move. Totally different from production falling.

According to Gologit, some certified fallers still shouldn't be on the fireline. That's probably true.

I didn't watch the whole video. I figured it would hit the ground, eventually. I guess I better watch and see what happened.

Yup, it went over and the stump looks nice. Hack? I think not. I think it is more of somebody who does not get to fall as frequently as some of you.

Maybe he needed to use a Blue wedge.
 
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bitzer said:
In the other video that mr. billy posted the faller was a little nervous and shakey. Kind of unsure of where he was. He got the job done, but had to re-cut the face about 10 times and I don't get the 1/3 throttle thing. Also did not look up at the most important part, when the tree started to tip. He was watching his wedge moving. They could of edited that thing down to about 5 minutes also, maybe less. Eh, whatever. So is that pastor billy in that video?
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Link pls.
 
slowp said:
I will confess that I am a certified by the FS until November as a bucker.

Speed is not stressed. Safety is. I've seen the videos and been to a falling meeting or two. The whole thing is about safety. The FS people are not production fallers.

We kind of need NW Axeman to do input. I've done a bit of traffic control while the FS fallers were taking down trees in campgrounds. We have people on trails and roads to stop folks from wandering in. It may be overkill, but it is the safest way. The whole certification program started because there were injuries and fatalities. Guys used to go buy a saw and show up at fire camp and get hired as a faller. Falling bosses used to bring them back into camp after seeing they were not fallers.

The process goes slow. The faller starts cutting. We others are about two tree lengths away, which is a lot in the Iron Creek Campground. When he has the notch in, he radios that he is starting the backcut and checks that everybody is out of the way. That's our cue to stay put and make sure nobody enters the area. The tree topples. We wait for an all clear, then we can move. Totally different from production falling.

According to Gologit, some certified fallers still shouldn't be on the fireline. That's probably true.

I didn't watch the whole video. I figured it would hit the ground, eventually. I guess I better watch and see what happened.

Yup, it went over and the stump looks nice. Hack? I think not. I think it is more of somebody who does not get to fall as frequently as some of you.

Maybe he needed to use a Blue wedge.
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You're right they neglected to color coordinate before they left camp. Blue wedges are all the rage right now. Blue is the new orange.:msp_tongue:
 
HBRN has other ways of getting wood on the ground. :hmm3grin2orange:

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