FarmerTec Huztl MS660 Updated Build Kit - Build Thread

[Bedford T]

Ok cool...I'll just widen the muffler by the cylinder exhaust port then.

How much oil does the HO oiler put out? I don't have the saw together, but when I do, just wondering what I should be looking for to make sure its functioning right. Does it throw chain oil off quite a bit?

yours should look something like this and you don't need to do anything. get it air tight and break it in. these photos are from the first kits. i had to search to find them. lol thank goodness my camera is better now. there is two holes in the photo

on the oiler. you put a long bar on it and if the bar is wet with oil, the pump is doing its job and that is the place i got mine and I like it. i have written a dozen times on the output of the pump. my website has the specs on the pump if you cant find it anywhere else go look it up

 

[Bedford T]

you could just drill a big fat hole in it, maybe right in the middle. on a good day you might be able to light your cigars on it. when i was working on modding my 029 muffler i could not find anything "scientific" on what to do. kinda like folklore, depends on what tribe you belong too.

 

[Bedford T]

Is this kit on eBay the hutzl farmertec kit? Ready to order. No ones answering the phone at HL supply. I tried to call and see if they will offer a coupon code or deal on the ms660 kit anytime soon. I also emailed 4 days ago no reply. So looking elsewhere. This one is on ebay. Is it the farmertec?View attachment 634550 View attachment 634551 View attachment 634552 View attachment 634553

when you order it send attach a note to the seller and tell them not to screw up your bag of brake parts like scores unlucky folks get. tell them to keep the 440 spring and send a 660. lol

you best go buy one

 

[MG porting]

I've built the 440 kit and omitted the base gasket and had the base milled to leave .015-.018 squish on it. I also cleaned up the ports, widened them slightly and port matched the intake baffle and muffler and removed the muffler internal baffle.

These were all on the 440 (really a 440 big bore). Does this 660 kit work the same way? Are base gaskets able to be omitted on the this one as well? I'm guessing yes to all these and will check all anyway, but I've had pretty good luck with increasing compression and power with the farmertec stuff.

It's a hit and miss on squish on the cylinders from what I've gathered. The two I have one is right at .024 and the other one is . 022 but one seeds farmertec on it and the other one has no markings on it.

 

[hacksaw11111]

yours should look something like this and you don't need to do anything. get it air tight and break it in. these photos are from the first kits. i had to search to find them. lol thank goodness my camera is better now. there is two holes in the photo

on the oiler. you put a long bar on it and if the bar is wet with oil, the pump is doing its job and that is the place i got mine and I like it. i have written a dozen times on the output of the pump. my website has the specs on the pump if you cant find it anywhere else go look it up


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I bought one of the irish aftermarket ones...just wanted to see if there is a way to check if its preforming like it should be. I also bought a 36" bar, so I guess if it lubes that up, it will be working haha

 

[golddredgergold]

Yes sir that is farmertec, they do business as huztl and machine doctor and a couple more on ebay

Awesome. Order placed. Now just waiting. Tried to get a carb Wj-76 on mitty site but out of stock. Will go by stihl dealer and get wrist pin, bearing and clips. Want to run a Decomp valve. Got one ordered.

 

[Bedford T]

Awesome. Order placed. Now just waiting. Tried to get a carb Wj-76 on mitty site but out of stock. Will go by stihl dealer and get wrist pin, bearing and clips. Want to run a Decomp valve. Got one ordered.

She has a bucket of carbs on order. Should be here soon after you get yours built. No that she has us I doubt she runs out again. I swooped in and her orders when up unexpectedly. Your on your way. Congrats.

Do you have a pressure tester? If not read about 10 pages back.

http://thechainsawkitguy.com

 

[Bedford T]

I bought one of the irish aftermarket ones...just wanted to see if there is a way to check if its preforming like it should be. I also bought a 36" bar, so I guess if it lubes that up, it will be working haha

Lol, those are the only ones available unless you bought oem. The Irish also make the Tillotson carbs. That is the one I am using, the Irish one. 36 is a long bar and it should keep it wet

For build info: http://thechainsawkitguy.com

 

[golddredgergold]

She has a bucket of carbs on order. Should be here soon after you get yours built. No that she has us I doubt she runs out again. I swooped in and her orders when up unexpectedly. Your on your way. Congrats.

Do you have a pressure tester? If not read about 10 pages back.

http://thechainsawkitguy.com

Got my pressure tester ordered last week due for delivery tomorrow. Mitty got back to me and said end of March. Do you have a link to the Wj-67 on eBay that I can get the .74 jet for? And best place to buy the jet if I can't find it locally?

 

[Bedford T]

Got my pressure tested ordered last week due for delivery tomorrow. Kitty got back to me and said end of March. Do you have a link to the Wj-67 on eBay that I can get the .74 jet for? And best place to buy the jet if I can't find it locally?

I just got a delivery. I will take care of it and get back to you

For build info: http://thechainsawkitguy.com

 

[Bedford T]

Got my pressure tester ordered last week due for delivery tomorrow. Mitty got back to me and said end of March. Do you have a link to the Wj-67 on eBay that I can get the .74 jet for? And best place to buy the jet if I can't find it locally?

I am sorry to say they are out. I knew there was a reason I removed it from my website. There is so many on ebay that use the same photo, I had a real hard time. If you just ordered your kit it will be 3 weeks before you get it delivered. They are not back until the 27th. then putting it together, you would have about a two week wait on your wj-76. that's a bummer

Another thing you could do is ask mitty to get you the jet and inquire about a wj-69 to put it in, dont know if that is good advice. in the meantime, if i see one of those carbs that i think is actually the correct one i will let you know. the walbro jet part # is 122-466-74-1 if she can get you one i will look and see if i have an extra i could let go of. pm me if that is appealing

 

[MG porting]

Well Bedford T I've been doing a lot of research today and I've have come to a solid decision on what cylinder and piston kit im going to get for the ms660. I know make up your mind right. Lol. With all the good and bad and the soso I'm going with the Highway cylinder and Meteor piston although I will be making sure that the timing is good but I'm not going to be going crazy with my port work just something to try and if i can tell a difference in power I might do the same on the spare 660. But I'm doing this setup for sure. Lol.

 

[Bedford T]

Well Bedford T I've been doing a lot of research today and I've have come to a solid decision on what cylinder and piston kit im going to get for the ms660. I know make up your mind right. Lol. With all the good and bad and the soso I'm going with the Highway cylinder and Meteor piston although I will be making sure that the timing is good but I'm not going to be going crazy with my port work just something to try and if i can tell a difference in power I might do the same on the spare 660. But I'm doing this setup for sure. Lol.

Everybody needs a spare 660! Lol. Sounds like fun. I wish I had more confidence in the case threads in a magnesium case but I don't. Take the cylinder off after I made it air tight just is not happening with mine. But I will enjoy yours.

 

[MG porting]

Everybody needs a spare 660! Lol. Sounds like fun. I wish I had more confidence in the case threads in a magnesium case but I don't. Take the cylinder off after I made it air tight just is not happening with mine. But I will enjoy yours.


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Lol i here you. But someone has to do it so I guess it will be me.

 

[morbius18]

I'm assembling mine, finally.
Huztl sent it via SF express. They delivered it and showed delivered on SF's site, but it wasn't to me. They were closed for president's day/new year and when calling their customer service, they told me it had been delivered to a local ups store and gave me the address. It had been sitting there for a week and they had no idea what to do with it.

I got it and checked everything, and found the front locating pin hole must have been jammed and hit in chipping the front of the case. It is below the tank area, but I've still contacted them.



I've gotten it together to test the squish, and am unabke to get the front clutch side screw into the hole, its hitting the fins. That will have to be cleaned up slightly.


I tried it without gasket and it was hitting the top of the cylinder, a good sign. With the gasket, it measured .021. I'm acually impressed. This is the first farmertec cylinder that wont require shaving the base. I'm still going to clean up the ports/transfers and port match it.

 

[morbius18]

The offending hole:

 

[morbius18]

The ports also match really well too. The intake port is slightly bigger than the bellow, the exhaust matches the muffler exactly. I was going to build this for a friend, but I might keep it for myself. Although I have no use for a saw this big...

 

[Imprzed205]

yours should look something like this and you don't need to do anything. get it air tight and break it in. these photos are from the first kits. i had to search to find them. lol thank goodness my camera is better now. there is two holes in the photo

on the oiler. you put a long bar on it and if the bar is wet with oil, the pump is doing its job and that is the place i got mine and I like it. i have written a dozen times on the output of the pump. my website has the specs on the pump if you cant find it anywhere else go look it up


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I ordered and have my kit built with several upgrades. On my muffler I drilled the spotwelds and removed the baffle.
I also ordered a hyway cylinder I'm going to cut the band and base before I port it. Money's no object for this cheap girl lol.

 

[morbius18]

I ordered and have my kit built with several upgrades. On my muffler I drilled the spotwelds and removed the baffle.
I also ordered a hyway cylinder I'm going to cut the band and base before I port it. Money's no object for this cheap girl lol. View attachment 634856

I was planning on removing my baffle too, I also got the Walbro carb from mittys.

When you cut the band at the top and the base, is the purpose to decrease the combustion chamber volume and cutting the base to remove the extra gap you create by cutting to top?

So you decrease the volume of the top chamber and move the piston higher by cutting the base, then file the flywheel key to correct the timing.

I've never had it explained to me, so I'm checking if what I think is correct.

 

[Bedford T]

The offending hole:
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That's happened before.

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