Fast, effective, poison ivy/climbing vine killer?

[TNTreeHugger]

Pretty expensive for Ready to Use (diluted). Amazing how they can use the RoundUp name and not a bit of Glyphosate in it.

Bayer To Remove Glyphosate From Residential Roundup​

"Though Roundup with glyphosate is still available for commercial use, Bayer has announced that it will stop selling Roundup with glyphosate for residential use in 2023. Bayer, Roundup’s parent company, posted a negative global sales outlook for 2023, largely because of declines in the sale of products containing glyphosate...

While the likelihood of a ban on glyphosate in the U.S. is unclear, Roundup cancer lawsuits against Bayer have caused the company to take action by removing glyphosate from products used in home lawns and gardens. This action is not because of any acknowledgment of the product’s harmful effects but solely to avoid future litigation, according to the company’s “Five-Point Plan to Close the Roundup Litigation” announced in May 2021.

 

[sean donato]

Glyphosate up isn't going anywhere even if Bayer does take it out of their products. There's still zero conclusive proof it affects humans at any rate.

 

[kenmbz]

I never let them get to vines at my place, if I see ANY, it gets nuked ASAP.

Too many acres of thick brambles and woods here. Have to wander a lot to even find them.
Neighbor across the shared road does not do any vine checking, so constant work.
I could make some pretty heavy ropes from the Faux Grape vines.
When I cut those, water pours out!

 

[SCMtnHaul]

I prefer instant gratification when it comes to poison ivy/oak. Admittedly I don't get the oak real bad, but just put on some cheap coveralls and disposable rubber gloves underneath disposable gloves like Wondergloves, tape the cuff to sleeve and go pull all the poison oak you want. I'm not anti-spray but I hate waiting round for it to work and then having to go back and pull the vines out. The ol' one and done approach is more to my liking.

 

[DaveMueller]

Glyphosate for non-woody plants. Absorbed through leaves, into the roots. It will kill parts of small trees and bushes where it hits the leaves.
2,4-D for plants with leaves not blades (ie weeds but not grass).
Triclopyr for woody plants and vines.
Add a surfactant for plants with coatings on the leaves.
Adding dye helps too.

For small trees and vines, use the "hack and squirt" method. Make a bunch of shallow cuts low on the trunk and squirt a 1:4 solution of triclopyr: water into the cuts. Best done in the late summer when nutrients are going from leaves into the roots

At the park I worked at, we mixed up what we called "airstrike" which was a combination of all the above. It killed everything. We got a 1 day class to be certified to use these chemicals in the state parks.

Dave

 

[Paul Bunions]

I can't decide which life form is lower: the tort lawyer or the building contractor.

 

[TNTreeHugger]

BLUEFIRE 32" long Propane Torch Weed Burner Self Igniting Cord Free Flamethrower

 

[Mad Professor]

Too many acres of thick brambles and woods here. Have to wander a lot to even find them.
Neighbor across the shared road does not do any vine checking, so constant work.
I could make some pretty heavy ropes from the Faux Grape vines.
When I cut those, water pours out!

I have ~40 acres to deal with, fields/pasture, mixed hardwoods with some pine and hemlock, and a swampy area along one property boundary.
I discovered a few places in thickets where PI was getting a foothold. I spent a whole afternoon with the hand pump sprayer, then two more followup sallies.

Being highly allergic to the stuff I consider it time well spent.

I'm in the process of removing invasives and just got a USDA grant to do so. It will be mechanical pulling/cutting with two chemical followups. The invasives that are making thickets/mess are buckthorn, bittersweet, multiflora rose, and barberry.

 

[TNTreeHugger]

I have ~40 acres to deal with, fields/pasture, mixed hardwoods with some pine and hemlock, and a swampy area along one property boundary.
I discovered a few places in thickets where PI was getting a foothold. I spent a whole afternoon with the hand pump sprayer, then two more followup sallies.

Being highly allergic to the stuff I consider it time well spent.

I'm in the process of removing invasives and just got a USDA grant to do so. It will be mechanical pulling/cutting with two chemical followups. The invasives that are making thickets/mess are buckthorn, bittersweet, multiflora rose, and barberry.

I the multiflora rose. Sweetest smelling rose on the planet. Good for wildlife, too.

 

[Paul Ojanen]

Poison ivy is covered with oil that resists sprays. When I started spraying it, I found info out there saying to add dish soap to it.

The reason dish soap helps with sprays is because it has a surfactant agent in it. When I started mixing my own herbicides, I bought a bottle of surfactant to mix in that agent with any mixture I make.

A surfactant breaks the surface tension of the water-based solution. This makes it much harder for the spray to form drops. So it spreads better on any surface.

I use dish soap for cleaning up after poison ivy, yes, because it cuts through the oil. I don't know if dish soap in the spray solution is more helpful than just adding a surfactant. I don't know.

 

[TNTreeHugger]

Dish soap is also good for killing bagworms.
Saw some at the tops of my three arbs near the back porch and picked them off yesterday.
The guys at the nursery I used to work at would handpick them off the thousands of arbs we had in the fields then burn them in a pile. Sounded like corn popping.
Drowning in dish soap seemed to take care of them.

 

[lone wolf]

I can't decide which life form is lower: the tort lawyer or the building contractor.

Car salesman?

 

[TNTreeHugger]

Car salesman?

Insurance salesman.

 

[lone wolf]

Insurance salesman.

My vote is for car salesman, but you are close. Wait, Politician!

 

[Sidecarflip]

Have not been following along but what I do for poison Ivy vines is, I cut a section out of the fine near the base where it comes out of the soil about 3" long with my Corona pruning shears and then coat the ground side of the vine with straight 24D concentrate, that kills them. After I do that, I wash off the Corona nippers in straight bleach so the resin on the loppers don't get on me. Bleach destroys the resin immediately.

 

[Sidecarflip]

I can't decide which life form is lower: the tort lawyer or the building contractor.

In my humble opinion, the lowest life form is a Democrat politician and the absolute bottom rung is Biden. I cannot stand to even look at his mug anymore.

 

[TNTreeHugger]

My vote is for car salesman, but you are close. Wait, Politician!

... director of NIAID!

 

[Paul Bunions]

I have never had a contractor not lie to me and cheat me on a big job. I've done okay with used cars.

Car salesman: sells you a piece of junk, and when it's over, you lose maybe $10,000.

Contractor: ruins your house, charges you $200,000 for work that has to be redone by someone else, and files a mechanic's lien when you refuse to pay.

 

[benz66]

Too many acres of thick brambles and woods here. Have to wander a lot to even find them.
Neighbor across the shared road does not do any vine checking, so constant work.
I could make some pretty heavy ropes from the Faux Grape vines.
When I cut those, water pours out!

When I had timberland, I'd hike with a machete. poison ivy vines got chopped at the base. (best done in the dark of the moon). just keep the business end of the machete away from you until you can wash it off. Dawn first then bleach. Covering a 40 is easy.

That was until the multiflora rose covered all the ground. Trying to spray them into submission was a losing cause. Worked with dnr to do controlled burns. First a dozer to make firebreaks. They are oily and burn nicely. It is very satisfying to watch them go up like a torch. The oaks love a good fire. Hickories and maples tolerate fire.

The neighbor believed the state's BS that multiflora rose made great fences and will not spread. (unless acid scarified). They planted them all over. A trip through the birds belly provides all the acid scarification. they need, and the birds LOVE the fruit.

 

[Mad Professor]

I the multiflora rose. Sweetest smelling rose on the planet. Good for wildlife, too.

Want some seeds to plant?

I nuke that stuff on sight.

I've got "civilized" roses around the house.